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Can Steve Jobs rev up the iPod again?
Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 02:44 PM EDT

"One of the unintended consequences of the success of the iPhone is that it has rendered the classic iPod and its diminutive sisters — the nano and the shuffle — nearly irrelevant," Phillip Elmer-DeWitt blogs for Fortune. "What do you need a second MP3 player for if you’ve already got a few hundred tunes in your pocket?"

MacDailyNews Take: Who said it was unintended?

Elmer-DeWitt continues, "Enter Steve Jobs, who is expected to appear in person at the Yerba Buena Center for the Performing Arts in San Francisco next Tuesday for a special media event entitled 'Let’s Rock.' Jobs has made an annual ritual of introducing new iPods in September — giving the company plenty of time to ramp up for holiday sales. In 2005 the star of the show was the original iPod nano. Last year it was the iPod touch."

"This year, according to several converging rumor threads, Jobs will introduce a brand new edition of the iPod nano, a slightly modified iPod touch, [possible price cuts], and a jazzed up version of the iTunes software that feeds content to them both," Elmer-DeWitt writes.

"Will these changes be enough to bring back the days of double- or triple-digit sales growth? Probably not. But if the price cuts are steep enough and there are enough new and interesting things you can do with iPods — like download applications from the App Store — the latest versions could find their way onto Christmas wish lists for a few more years," Elmer-DeWitt writes.

Full article, plus the taxonomy of iPods, here.

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Sep 04, 08 - 02:58 pm Comment from: rahrens

Geez, irrelevant? What is there about an iPhone that would make an iPod Shuffle or Nano obsolete? Different demographics, folks!

Or perhaps different uses? Maybe I'd like to take my shuffle outside while I cut the grass, while leaving my expensive iPhone inside so it doesn't get damaged.

Idiot...

Sep 04, 08 - 03:00 pm Comment from: Demon

When You consider Apple is maintaining and still increasing it's Market share at the cost of Zune Sales and well everyone else. One would expect sales to slow. As not everyone in the world will be a portable media player consumer.
But, with the slow decline in all portable entertainment devices such as CD players, DVD players, cassette, and radios. A large spike in iPod sales will most likely occur. The Question is timing as the supply and lack of choice of in the portable entertainment device market reached the tipping point for the majority of the consumers of the old tech starts looking to the new tech for a suitable replacement for their beloved portable entertainment device? My guess is not this year but, perhaps next year.

Sep 04, 08 - 03:07 pm Comment from: Erk

hard to improve on perfection?

Sep 04, 08 - 03:12 pm Comment from: jbird

I agree with rahrens.. I dont always like to take my Ipod touch w me when walking or cutting the grass.. I break out my Red nano..

Sep 04, 08 - 03:15 pm Comment from: R2

Why does Apple need growth there? It's not enough to just sell 10 million profitable iPods every quarter and maintain an iron grip on the portable media market with no competition in sight?

Sep 04, 08 - 03:19 pm Comment from: R2

Every non-holiday quarter I should say. Then the sales come in at double the usual rate.

Sep 04, 08 - 03:20 pm Comment from: Bryan

If the price was cheaper, id buy and ipod fr my my car.

Also i would be surprised if we see a 32 GB iPhone RED!!!

Sep 04, 08 - 03:34 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

MDN - whoa, good going, you made me look up a word


At first I was afraid if I followed the link

Full article ... here

I would find in some diabolically bizarre display of sadism

Little iPods stuffed and mounted

(ouch, ouch, they gutted my hard drive and replaced it with sawdust)

Whew, just glad no iPods were injured in the creation of that article



BC

Sep 04, 08 - 03:39 pm Comment from: GizmoDan

How can you call the iPod market irrelevant when they keep selling millions, and the sales are still growing? Especially when you don't count iPhones as iPods, even though they include one . . .

Sep 04, 08 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Andrew

Where do I fit in that article?

I have a Shuffle for when I am going on a 4 hour bike ride

I have an iPhone that goes with me most places, if I have an urge to listen to a bit of the music I have on it or internet radio it is fine.

And lastly I have a 160gb classic that is up over 100gb of music. No iPhone could replace that amount of storage. If I want to maintain the ability to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want and it takes carrying an iPod Classic and iPhone so be it.

Sep 04, 08 - 06:07 pm Comment from: something new

"iPod Flip" with multi-touch?

Apple needs something compelling to keep the buzz.
Price and capacity adjustments aren't that something.

Sep 04, 08 - 06:29 pm Comment from: alansky

The article makes an absurd assumption: That most iPod owners also own iPhones. The last time I looked, iPods started at $49 and didn't require a contract.

Sep 04, 08 - 07:05 pm Comment from: Rudge

Irrelevant!?!

I only wish that were true. You so seldom see iPods available at garage sales. I was sort of hoping that the iPhone and iPod Touch popularity would cause all of that older iPod equipment to be sold at garage sales and flee markets, but not so much, huh?

Maybe it's because it has people's favorite music on it, that your iPod is a very personal object that still gives enjoyment. Who would want to get rid of that?

Sep 05, 08 - 12:40 am Comment from: Bitjockey

I reiterate, I Pod Touch is Apple's main mobile product. The iPhone is a temporary 'foot in the door' device to lure the masses into the fold. As wireless access becomes ubiquitous more users will move to VOIP services and the cellular technology will dry up and die. There is no future in the current proprietary cellular technologies that only carry voice.

Sep 05, 08 - 02:08 am Comment from: TheConfuzed1

@ Bitjockey--

Cellular technology carries a lot more than voice these days.

Sep 05, 08 - 10:08 am Comment from: Chris

I think the future of the iPod line, if it's to remain relevant, is the Touch. As much as people love the iPhone, the economics of having a $100+/month cell phone bill don't sit well with many people (myself included). I'm just as content to carry around a freebie cell phone and an iPod. If I can do most of the things that an iPhone can do on a Touch, that would be an ideal replacement for my current 5.5G.

The only stumbling block at the moment is the price. I think the 16GB Touch needs to hit that magic $250 pricepoint that has thus far made the Classic (and its predecessors) so successful. With flash drives of that capacity at about $100 (or less), I think Apple could easily do that and still make a very profitable device and cement the iPod's domination of the high-end MP3 player market for years to come.

Just my $0.02... let's hope that's what Steve has in mind for the announcement.

Sep 05, 08 - 05:51 pm Comment from: inmycase

my 1stG shuffle hangs on my rearview mirror everywhere I go. I can run into a store and know it will be there when I get back. No one wants it/knows what it is. I would love the phone, but as others noted, not all of us can afford the att rates. The touch has been calling, my name, though I may end up with a nano, or gasp, another shuffle in my future. No matter what, which one would you use when you mow the lawn, mulch some branches and water the grass.
I am however -cheap-
my phone is a $14 prepaid att, that I swap the sim and use on my plan. I'm even thinking of moving to pocket which has ridiculously low rates in my area, but they are cdma.
I originally moved to att in anticipation of the first iTunes capable phone... was that a sony? I can't even remember that far back. I've been holding onto my hope that att wanted the iphone to become ubiquitous, but seeing the state of 3G networks and the fact that they aren't continuing to sell the edge version, tells me it is not mass market time yet.

Sep 06, 08 - 03:12 am Comment from: me

I've made a small shrine from dead iPods.

God I love Apple !!!!!

Sep 07, 08 - 07:06 am Comment from: iPods only

Believe it or not, there are still parts of the country not serviced by ATT, therefore no iPhone for them...I would say iPods are not irrelevant for them..and don't give me some crap about "Jailbreaking"an edge iPhone for T mobile...your average user is not geeky enough to do that...

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