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Must have killed CNet to report it.

Oct 22, 09 - 03:45 pm Comment from: Jubei

Did hell freeze over? Oooh the MS fanbois are gonna be pissed at CNET for this. ahahaha

Oct 22, 09 - 03:49 pm Comment from: ken1w

Wow! Even CNET tried real hard to keep it close, but could not bring themselves to giving Windows 7 the win. That's really amusing...

Oct 22, 09 - 03:53 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

MDN you missed the easiest part: "It's not often that the two most popular operating systems get major updates so close to each other", which is because it's not that often that Windows gets a Service Pack, err major update, period.

Oct 22, 09 - 03:55 pm Comment from: Follower

Looking at the comments at CNet, it appears MS spent all their money on astroturfing.

Oct 22, 09 - 04:11 pm Comment from: Predrag

..."it appears MS spent all their money on astroturfing."

And judging by the volume, they may have even burned through all of their cash reserves!

They scream about us as "fanbois" but you should really see some of the whining on the CNET board for this article! It is downright hilarious!

Oct 22, 09 - 04:12 pm Comment from: twodales

The Wintards are going ape over this article. A very amusing read.

I had to leave a comment....

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Comment on: Microsoft Windows 7 vs. Apple Snow Leopard
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"I couldn't resist replying.

Most of the angry PC users are comparing the Mac Pro to custom built rigs, the rest are whining about exaggerated price differences, and others are exaggerating Windows boot up times.
Why don't we compare something other than a Mac Pro, huh?

Dell All-in-one Studio One 19

3.0GHz Intel Dual Core CPU
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit (Wow, they aren't shipping with 7 yet?)
Microsoft Office Home and Student
McAfee SecurityCenter 9 with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 2 Year
4GB DDR2 800MHz RAM
500GB 7200RPM HD
Nvidia 9400M GPU
Dell Wireless Desktop Keyboard & Mouse
Internal 802.11 b/g wireless networking
$1,212

iMac 21.5"

3.06GHz Dual Core Intel CPU
Snow Leopard
iWork 09
4GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM
500GB 7200RPM HD
Nvidia 9400M GPU
Apple Wireless Keyboard and Magic Mouse (multi-touch FTW)
Bluetooth + EDR
Built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n Wi-Fi wireless networking; IEEE 802.11a/b/g compatible
$1,248

Woah... What happened? Why isn't the Dell half the price of the Mac? On top of this, the Mac has better customer support, a larger screen with a better display, faster RAM, a better mouse, a faster and more secure OS, more included software (iLife), and much better resale value.

Let's jump several years into the future. It costs $100 to upgrade to the new version of Windows, and $30 to upgrade to OSX 10.7. On top of this, the iMac will partially pay for itself with the resale value it keeps. The Dell won't.

I can do similar comparisons with HP, Dell, and Sony 13" notebooks, all-in-ones, and Micro ATX PC's. Apple has gone from extremely expensive to directly comparable to the competition.

At the people claiming Windows is faster...

Humor me. My Macbook Pro, used for basically everything but gaming (2.53GHz Dual Core Intel CPU, 4GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM, 250 5400RPM HD, OSX 10.6), boots up and shuts down much faster than my gaming rig (3.81GHz Quad Core Intel i5 CPU, 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, 320GB 7200RPM HD). It's also more stable and secure. And no, disabling the boot up sound won't make Windows win. It won't win."

@RED-411

Nice. A little smackdown of your own right there!

Oct 22, 09 - 04:36 pm Comment from: Spudly

Heads must be rolling at C|Net!?! They're right up there with the Windows "Supersite" fighting to be Microsoft's #1 shill site. Someone's gonna lose their job as soon as gasball(mer) hears about this one...

Hhhmmm. The Mac'ers enjoyed this one. I am glad that you have a feather to put in your cap. As for most that require flexibility in their business solutions, it appears that we have to stick with windows in place of the status and/or bling effect some get from the Mac.

Then Kdog you certainly have my sympathy. As for bling haven't you noticed Macs are minimalist now those vile alien machines made by dell with the hinged helmet now they are bling my friend.

Oct 22, 09 - 05:06 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ RED-411,

I had the impression that the $29 price of Snow Leopard was a one time thing, and that the next upgrade to OS X would be back to the same $129 price.

@ KDog

Flexibility in business solutions? Care to elaborate?

Macs have popular photo and movie editing programs, Office for Mac, iWork (personally, I think it is vastly superior to any version of Office), and they work with Microsoft Exchange.

On top of this, you don't have to worry about malicious software harming your valuable data.

spyinthesky,
I agree with you 110%. The first thing I thought when I saw that was, are you kidding me. There is always a weirdo in the crowd.

I redirect to function.

Oct 22, 09 - 05:11 pm Comment from: Mac Daddy

"As for most that require flexibility in their business solutions, it appears that we have to stick with windows in place of the status and/or bling effect some get from the Mac."

Bwaaaaaaaa hahahahahaha! I consider flexibility in my business solution to be not suffering downtime because my POS Windows machine crashed or became a virus-laden, mal-ware-riddled bot. Oh, yeah, I suppose I could pay the MicroSoft tax and hire an IT department to keep my POS Windows machines running, I suppose...

Enjoy your Dell, KDog.

Oct 22, 09 - 05:12 pm Comment from: Jim - TIV

@kdog...

If by flexibility you mean being able to run Windows and OSX then yes, by all means businesses should buy a mac. If by flexibility you mean being able to run only some of the available software out there and not 100% of what's available... then go for it fanboi.

@ Sir Bill Gates

Because of Snow Leopard being more of an update, rather than a completely new OS?

Well, I would like for the price to stay at $29. Regardless, even at $129, OSX is cheaper than all but the most feature-lacking versions of Windows.

Just wait. Balmer's gonna' figure out to Obamaize these dupes that go against the MS grain and laud Apple over Win7, withdraw all their ads, order Dell and H and Sony to do so as well.

If you disagree with the Pack, you will get whacked.

Just ask The One Lord Obama.

Oct 22, 09 - 05:16 pm Comment from: alansky

What rubbish!

Oct 22, 09 - 05:30 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ RED-411,

True, even at full price OS X is an awesome value (especially the family packs) but I agree, that $29 price if permanent would be sweet.

Oct 22, 09 - 05:33 pm Comment from: dave smith

from W7 review on NYT:

Finally, out of fear of antitrust headaches, Microsoft has stripped Windows 7 of some important accessory programs. Believe it or not, software for managing photos, editing videos, reading PDF documents, maintaining a calendar, managing addresses, chatting online or writing e-mail doesn’t come with Windows 7.

What kind of operating system doesn’t come with an e-mail program?

Instead, you’re supposed to download these free apps yourself from a Microsoft Web site. It’s not a huge deal; some companies, including Dell, plan to preinstall them on new computers. But a lot of people will be in for some serious confusion — especially when they discover that the Windows 7 installer has deleted their existing Vista copies of Windows Mail, Movie Maker, Calendar, Contacts and Photo Gallery. (Mercifully, it preserves your data.)

Oct 22, 09 - 05:51 pm Comment from: Chas

Where's ZuneTang when you need him! I'm positively salivating for one of his nuggets

=:~)

Oct 22, 09 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Handsome Smitty,

Handsome huh? I found your baby picture. Hope you've improved with age.

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/8/83/8_ugly_people.jpg/300px-8_ugly_people.jpg

Oct 22, 09 - 05:56 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Chas,

Please don't talk like that.

Oct 22, 09 - 06:10 pm Comment from: Spark

They did the same thing with the Palm Pre and iPhone 3GS. Was really close, with some weird (to me) conclusions and judging, but the iPhone squeeked by as the winner. That's the new CNET MO: grudgingly allow Apple products to win (because how could they not), while making the competitor appear to have just missed a knock out by ignoring glaring issues noted by dozens of other reviewers. CNET has to prop up there major sources of income without totally destroying all shreds of its credibility. The point is that CNET can no longer just ignore or dismiss Apple products like the old days. People now know better.

Oct 22, 09 - 06:23 pm Comment from: Miguel Cruz

@Sir Gill Bates

totally hilarious pic, didn't stop laughing for several minutes
thanks dude

Oct 22, 09 - 06:37 pm Comment from: bkire

Notice Vulnerability and Security was not listed.

Oct 22, 09 - 06:38 pm Comment from: Tommyr

DUH. This is news???? Slow day maybe?

Oct 22, 09 - 07:00 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

@ Miguel Cruz,

Glad you liked it. The sad thing is, it's not near as bad as my baby picture.

Luckily, my wife overlooked my homely appearance and married me anyway. I don't know how I was able to land such a fox.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4503/ugliestpersonintheworldwu1.jpg

Oct 22, 09 - 07:56 pm Comment from: TowerTone

"Protect your dicken from chokken...."

Oct 22, 09 - 08:01 pm Comment from: Road Warrior

Phew, what a relief to read the comments from the article. I thought Zune Thang was the only Mac Basher left.

Of course this is such a little nugget "As for most that require flexibility in their business solutions, it appears that we have to stick with windows in place of the status and/or bling effect some get from the Mac."

Funny thing about that. There has been talk about doing a project at work that would save us quite a nice chunk of change. A while back we finally got a few Mac systems and a couple of us actually completed the project. It has wowed the socks off the other staff, not only to see the final product but I have been showing them how it was done. They can see for themselves how easy it is and the lights are coming on.

Now they are coming up to me inquiring about wanting to buy a Mac and some already have. I offer them free training and support, but those who end up getting one rarely need it.

There are a lot of users out there that have to upgrade from XP to Windows 7 and from what I have read it looks like it is going to be a nightmare.

Oct 22, 09 - 08:14 pm Comment from: Brau

Gosh, I'm surprised the Mac's imperviousness toward viruses wasn't seen as a security negative. Completely missing was the fact that Macs appear to be a backwards version of Windows.

Oct 22, 09 - 09:09 pm Comment from: YoYo

Snow Leopard was a major update for Apple, but since the stuff user sees was not that much the price was low.

If you think about it backwards; we are going from Snow Leopard 10.5 to the next version 10.6 Leopard and add PowerPC support since we are switching away from Intel to 10 times faster PowerPC chips. This will take 6-20GB of additional installation space on your HD.

Oct 22, 09 - 09:15 pm Comment from: jonahan

So I went to upgrade my VMWare XP to Win 7 today and got "You can't upgrade to Windows 7 from XP you have to do a custom install" Which basically means you have to take off all your stuff and do a clean install and move your stuff back. What a joke of an OS.

Bias, bias, bias.

Where can you get reliable news these days...



@jonathan: Try upgrading an older version of Mac OS X with SL.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150&entry_id=50077

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=6dU&q=snow+leopard+problems&aq=f&oq;=&aqi;=

To me, at least a tie. Some of the scoring going on there was definitely biased up the ass. Sorry, but it was. If you'd like, I can pull out a few things as to why.

Oct 23, 09 - 01:38 am Comment from: Jubei

If they ever ad a category on how much money has been wasted with Windows viruses and so on, the Mac would win every battle with room to spare. Lets get the two most popular one. Remember thats just two from the thousands out there.

Windows:
ILOVEYOU = $5.5 BILLION
Conficker = $9 BILLION

Mac:
I don't know, let me see how much change do I have in my pocket.... I mean we don't want to just say ZERO. MS Fanbois will call foul. Hmm got a quarter here. There you go. $0.25 just so it won't be a Zero for comparison.

Oct 23, 09 - 02:21 am Comment from: Brulek

there's five minutes of my life I'll never get back. But tell me I wrong but the three microshit stooges on that site as morons. One example: Stability and reliabilty: realistically SLep = 99, windoze = 3.1. Idiots.

Oct 23, 09 - 07:35 am Comment from: jonahan

@sergio I upgraded from 10.5.8 on my 2.4GHz C2D 17" MBP and it's still running wonderfully.

@ Sergio
from 10.4.11 to Snow Leopard. No problems

"Windows:
ILOVEYOU = $5.5 BILLION
Conficker = $9 BILLION"

microsoft: working hard to strengthen the world economy, one pwned pc at a time!