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Nov 17, 07 - 11:36 am Comment from: Regular Reader

Still doesn't look as good as an iMac either!

Nov 17, 07 - 11:43 am Comment from: maclife

Go iMac! Congrats on this win. I do however look forward to the day when blu-ray drives become available on Mac's. Cupertino, please offer an HD drive in 2008 on-board 24" iMacs, Pro laptops and Pro desktops.

Nov 17, 07 - 12:02 pm Comment from: Ampar

Dell's new XPS One? Expend well, sons.

You would think that Mr. Dell would hire some decent programmers to come up with an answer to iLife for Dell computers only. We all know he has got a crappy OS to work with, but c'mon, do something with it!

Nov 17, 07 - 12:17 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

Cheap. Over-Designed and Ugly. As far as Bad Design goes, I doubt it would even appeal to the Alienware crowd. It would be right at home at Sears or Costco.

Not only that, it has a Blu-ray player/burner (nice!), yet the screen resolution is only 1680 x 1080, so it doesn't even support Full-HD , 1900 x1080. What a waste!

Dell: Striving for Mediocrity.

Nov 17, 07 - 12:32 pm Comment from: GizmoDan

The full article had this quote: "You know your performance is in trouble when your gaming scores are slower than a Mac's."

So, iMacs are now faster than the very high end PC's that weren't specifically tuned for game speed. Hopefully we will see this more and more, so this kind of quote will have to disappear.

Go, Apple!

Agreed.

Not enough res for 1080p but it has blu-ray.

DumbAss crap.

Cut down on the snobish attitude MDN. You and so called Mac users like yourself are making us look bad.

Nov 17, 07 - 12:58 pm Comment from: Steve516

I wish their review would include a better comparison chart. It would really highlight the advantages of the mac. Anyhow, for that $2400 price, you could get a loaded iMac 24" 2.8 extreme with 4gb of ram (not from apple), and blow them out of the water...

Nov 17, 07 - 01:09 pm Comment from: Woody

So, this ugly thing's only redeeming quality is that it has a Blu-ray drive, and it still gets a 7.9 out of 10? WTF? Oh, it was a CNet review.

Nov 17, 07 - 01:18 pm Comment from: Steve516

I don't see what the big deal is about blu-ray built in either. Especially if it adds $1000 to the price (currently). I'll wait until I can get an external FW or USB drive with HD or blu-ray for $250 before I make the swap.

Add in a Blu-ray drive from FastMac for $999

Question is, does this allow one to play BlueRay DVD's on a Mac?

I doubt it due to copy protection schemes requiring Apple to comply.

I don't know if the Dell with BlueRay plays BlueRay DVD's but that WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.

Nov 17, 07 - 02:00 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Am I the only one that thinks this looks like a Walk/Don't Walk street sign?

Nov 17, 07 - 02:00 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Ah hell...

http://i.dell.com/images/global/products/xpsdt/720_graphics_article.jpg

Huh? I'm sure that the FastMac external Blu-Ray ray drive allows you to play Blu-Ray DVDs! That's the main reason customers buy them. I'm sure you're mistaken about this--there are no DRM issues in this regard.
Jake

Nov 17, 07 - 02:39 pm Comment from: bond co. stooge

That POS looks like it was assembled with super glue!

Ummm, 1680 x 1050, with a blu-ray drive?!?! No video out?!?!

Okay, I can deal with this crap. What I can't let go is cnet NOT comparing it to the 24" 2.8 iMac, which REALLY makes it look like poo!

cnet bites. Again.

Does it have an equivalent to the Apple TV?

Sorry. I'm ranting...

Nov 17, 07 - 02:46 pm Comment from: bond co. stooge

@ChrissyOne

"Am I the only one that thinks this looks like a Walk/Don't Walk street sign?"

From Blade Runner!--can't you just hear it saying "Walk now--walk now--walk now..."

Actually, I think it probably has the primary function of attractive female repellent, a job which it performs remarkably well.

I have enough Hell's (excuse me, Dells) at work, and Dell has really outdone itself with the XPS ("S" stands for sh_t) One.

Where did they go to get this monstrosity designed? The School for the Blind?

It looks so weak. Ugly!

Come on Mike, hire a real designer. Then, we'll only have to complain that it's a Dell!

Nov 17, 07 - 03:12 pm Comment from: ibookfast

This clown thinks it does outclass the iMac... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2218276,00.asp
He concludes, "This is the all-in-one PC* to beat—for now." regarding the XPS One.. funny guy.

The Dell machine has an laptop grade innards, that can't be good. Yet it still costs more.


*I'm assuming that he's including Macs.

Nov 17, 07 - 03:52 pm Comment from: treestman

Very interesting. I did a comparison of the One to the iMac last night. I did so going off the specs on the page for pre-ordering one.

While it seemed clear at the $1.5K price the iMac had a clear performance advantage, I wasn't sure about the high-end. Dell's decision to use a desktop processor was interesting; while the clock speed was slightly slower (2.33 vs. 2.4) the FSB speed is much faster (1333 vs 800). I actually thought the desktop would be a bit faster overall.

I think MDN is too hard on the Adobe suite. It's a fine piece of software and it shows Dell is at least TRYING to counter the iLife threat. Smart move on their part if you ask me.

The entire comparison, now updated based on C|NET's review, can be found here:

Dell’s New All-In-One PC vs. Apple’s iMac.

Nov 17, 07 - 04:09 pm Comment from: treestman

By the way, the PC Mag review is clearly biased because they used Photoshop CS2 as one of the tests. What a crock! I mentioned that in my comparison article (linked earlier) as well.

So the Dell running Photoshop natively could squeak by the iMac running it in emulation. Big deal. Meanwhile, the iMac has THREE TIMES the 3D benchmark score as the One, but I guess that doesn't mean much.

The PC Mag review is a textbook example of biased reporting.

from an iPod touch South Coast Plaza. I don't seem to be having problems with the virtual keyboard, much. Cool gadget.

Nov 17, 07 - 06:15 pm Comment from: ken1w

Dell can't even be original with naming this thing. Isn't Gateway's all-in-ONE attempt at copying the iMac also called "One"?

Nov 17, 07 - 06:39 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Isn't Gateway's all-in-ONE attempt at copying the iMac also called 'One'?"

I expect a new iMac rip-off from Lenovo as well.
An all-in-one copy called the Won Ton?

Nov 17, 07 - 06:41 pm Comment from: treestman

Looks like the direct link to my comparison between the One and the iMacs is not working because this site doesn't like the apostrophes in the URL (???). Maybe I typed it wrong, so here's another try:

Dell’s New All-In-One PC vs. Apple’s iMac.

If that doesn't work, just click the link below and then select the article with the above name.

The Small Wave.

I've updated the article with comments about both the C|NET and PC Mag reviews.

So how come some of you have a star behind your handle.... you been good today?

Nov 17, 07 - 06:52 pm Comment from: Ampar

Jim - TIV: You don't get a star if you use looser for loser, your for you're, or APPL for AAPL.
MDN is setting higher standards.

Strong Jaw or Big Ears!

Blu-Ray without 1080p screen resolution! Only Dell marketing could conceive such a piece of crap.

Nevertheless, I look forward to Apple going "whole hog" with Blu-Ray disks ASAP. It's equally stupid to have greater than 1080p displays and expect users to watch non-HD content on them.

From the article:

You know your performance is in trouble when your gaming scores are slower than a Mac's. But on every test, from music encoding to photo editing to multitasking, the XPS One falls behind the iMac that costs $750 less.

Priceless!!!

Now what was that about Macs being 'more expensive'...?

Nov 17, 07 - 08:29 pm Comment from: Jim - TIV

Ampar - "You don't get a star if you use looser for loser, your for you're, or APPL for AAPL."

you mean Ron is in charge now?

Nov 17, 07 - 09:52 pm Comment from: Ampar

Jim - TIV:

Posting on MDN means never having to say you're surly.

The iMac's built in Blu-Ray drive is much better then the Dell's. So is the iMac's built in High Def TV Tuner. The iMac truly crushes the Dell as a multimedia entertainment system.

Nov 17, 07 - 11:26 pm Comment from: shen

meh, i don't know, having never seen it in person, but from the pics you would have to give me a BIG discount to put something that ugly on my desk....

Nov 18, 07 - 02:00 am Comment from: SKY LARK

Will they make any more tho?
I mean like, making only one, ain't going to help them a lot.

Nov 18, 07 - 03:22 pm Comment from: ron

SB called Dellwankenstein.

"Cut down on the snobish attitude MDN. You and so called Mac users like yourself are making us look bad."

I second that.

Nov 18, 07 - 06:31 pm Comment from: Road Warrior

Isn't Delldo thinking of closing up shop and giving the money back to the shareholders?

Nov 18, 07 - 10:38 pm Comment from: cuz i'm the taxman

Texas, don't keep messin' with us. Wait a minute, I live in the same state as Redmordor, better not throw stones (or chairs.)

Message to Apple:

I have seven Macs in my house, including two old G4-500s and a couple predating the G nomenclature. The old stuff still works, but the <b>G5</i> iMac bit the dust after three years. So I work this switcher for a year, see? And get him to finally buy a brand-spanking-new iMac. And...pfft. There goes the freeze.

Yeah, I know you wrung out the graphics card to give us the most bang [sic] for our bucks, and I'm suspicious about the heat management of your ultra-slim form factors. I can understand a laptop failing: they get tossed around; are ultra-thin; even fragile by definition. They ride on bikes, taxis, airplanes, and occasionally someone rolls over 'em in bed.

But a desktop shouldn't fail! It just sits on a desk for chrissakes!

Go back half a step and do some fuggin' proper testing before releasing these puppies. Build in more tolerance to failure; and while you're at it, consider allowing space for an additional drive for your consumer desktops, particularly now that you've given us Time Machine and you like to show off how neat it all looks in a desk.

Namaste.

Nov 19, 07 - 02:42 pm Comment from: Ampar

Road Warrior: "Delldo"

That's funny!

Nov 19, 07 - 06:58 pm Comment from: sfemet

Why don't they tell you the clock speed of the processor intead of some non-descript "E4500" or whatever? Hiding something?

Interesting keyboard tho. Been looking for a bluetooth with a trackpad... Can't tell if it's bluetooth or IR.
Can't couch surf with a mouse.