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Nov 03, 09 - 01:05 pm Comment from: davew

Need we say more !!!!!

Some people do need to say more.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:13 pm Comment from: Cubert

Early adopters have reported significant increases in start up and shut down times after a few weeks of using 7ista - sometimes double - as well as a creeping slowdown in GUI responsiveness.

No surprises there.

Things`l be different this time....trust me...
http://www.itpro.co.uk/blogs/daveyw/2009/11/03/80-percent-of-viruses-love-windows-7/

still the same rotted mess

Microsoft stole many features of OS X to put into Vista/Win 7 (Dock, Expose, Widgets, Sidebars). Now that Apple has streamlined OS X and added new technologies such as Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL, I hope they surprise us with new features in the next version of OS X.

Amen! Mac OS 10.6 is the better OS.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:31 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

IT'S THE SAME INTERFACE AS VISTA.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:38 pm Comment from: Brau

"Some people do need to say more."

Too true. Many out of sheer ignorance of what Mac OS X has offered since 2001 will simply believe the MS ads claiming true multi-tasking, no freeze-ups, updated Taskbar, etc, are new breakthroughs that MS developed at the request of PC users claiming it was "my idea".

Nov 03, 09 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Me In LA

LOLZ
When you drop the bar so low, the raising takes very little effort, hence Windows 7.
It will be a success simply because everyone is sick of XP.
Nobody used Vista.
What a cluster...

Quick, Microsoft, send Computerworld ten million dollars - it'll buy at least a year's worth of praise for Windows 7.

Thats a funny commercial.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:51 pm Comment from: db

@cubert

Exactly! That's what my husband keeps telling his PC friends... It looks great and it looks fast, but give it a couple of months. Looks like it didn't even take that long.

I've been running Tiger for almost 2 years on my Powerbook G4, and other than having to occasionally repair some permissions when things start screwing up a bit, that's all the maintenance I've had to do. That or a restart takes care of the problem. And the start/shutdown hasn't really changed in 2 years. Go figure!

Nov 03, 09 - 01:54 pm Comment from: breeze

nahhhhhh, impossible

"As an IT professional, I support both operating systems at work. But I have Macs at home; after all, who wants to troubleshoot computer problems on their own time?"

Amen! This quote deserves to be repeated as often as possible, as it's a clear and accurate assessment of the support burden which still remains on the Windows side of the fence.

Nov 03, 09 - 01:57 pm Comment from: Ting

But I have Macs at home; after all, who wants to troubleshoot computer problems on their own time?

This is THE unstated point in world of corporate IT support. Given a free choice, these 'professionals' would go Mac particularly when their own time or money is at stake.

Nov 03, 09 - 02:03 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

cubert, db ... that's the "Registry Tax" nobody cares (dares?) to mention. It "sort of" happens on an OSX system, too. The first boot can take forever (gathering the file systems together) then it gets very zippy for a while, then starts to imperceptibly slow. The slowness is typically noticed most when a new version is introduced. This is no Registry Tax, and it isn't within the hardware or the software. It's the techno-lust coded deep within the wet-ware running the system.

Apple could do a homage to the old MAYTAG commercials. Show the IT guys standing around there office with nothing to do because of MAC OS X running so smoothly.

Nov 03, 09 - 02:16 pm Comment from: Jubei

Like I keep telling everyone. Windows 7 is the same POS Windows Vista, as that is the same POS as Windows 95 as the same POS as Windows 3 as the same POS as Windows 1 as the same POS as DOS... for the love of POOP, wake up people.

Nov 03, 09 - 02:17 pm Comment from: Jubei

So many Windows POS, I actually forgot about XP POS, which probably started the whole 50 versions of the same POS from Microsoft. LOL

I think we will see some info on 10.7 at next years developers conference. The target is always moving.

Nov 03, 09 - 02:32 pm Comment from: Cubert

I like how the Winblows 7 ads tout things like, "now I can print wirelessly; now I can stream music and videos to other places in my house; now I can have multiple programs open without the system crashing," etc. etc.

Ummmmm.......OK. Welcome to 2002.

WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT WALT MOSSBERG?

Nov 03, 09 - 02:38 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

@ ChrissyOne

I know. Isn't it magnificent?

I would say it's back to the drawing board for MAC, but after the pummeling they're getting from Windows 7 I wouldn't be surprised if Cupertino cancels MAC OS development and simply licenses Windows. It's the same as MAC anyway.

Your potential. Our passion.™

"Snow Leopard is the better OS."

To quote the deeply profound words from my 16 year old daughter:


....well Duh!

Nov 03, 09 - 02:45 pm Comment from: auramac

Some people say too much. It's like politics- "shut up, already."

We can't afford it, but my wife and I are buying a new iMacs and MacBook Pro. Quality of life issues, therefore necessary.

Nov 03, 09 - 03:07 pm Comment from: Zeke

Bought my wife and I two aluminum refurb MacBooks (2 GB Ram, 2.66GHz, 250 GB HD). I chose refurbs because it's the only way to still get a MacBook in one-piece aluminum. They were $899 each and 5 years from now they'll still be functional, unlike a $600 Dell.

Yup, when it coms to the sheer quality of the operating system there's no contest.

Besides, it's not *just* the operating system. That would imply the hardware of the average Windows OEM is comparable to Apple hardware. It isn't. Take laptops: from the aluminium unibody to useful features like the magsafe lead, Apple hardware is simply better. Some of the pricier hardware from people like Lenovo or Sony is nearly as good - but even then not *as* good.

Oh, and with most PCs there's also the crapware issue.

For all but the crap bargain-basement - where Apple isn't interested in competing - the obvious choice is a Mac. Anyone who wants a new computer who doesn't look at one must be stark staring mad.

Nov 03, 09 - 03:21 pm Comment from: ztwatcher

"I would say it's back to the drawing board for MAC, but after the pummeling they're getting from Windows 7 I wouldn't be surprised if Cupertino cancels MAC OS development and simply licenses Windows. It's the same as MAC anyway."

OH! Zune-Tang ..... you say MAC OS is really bad, yet now you same windows 7 is the same as MAC OS X !!! you should check your other rants ..

If it is the same as MAC why does it cost 10 Times the price? for the OS?

Wow...a 20-year Macolyte decides he likes Apple better--and this is news?

MacDefenseNetwork must have a shortage of red meat for the Cupertino KoolAid crowd.

Reading a review of Windows 7 from a self proclaimed Mac fan is as useful as reading a Snow Leopard review from a Windows fan - something to be taken with a huge grain of salt. I prefer OS X and in fact use it on a Mac at home, but do use Windows 7 on my work computer and it really is a huge step up from Vista. I now actually don't mind using my work PC, whereas when it had Vista on it, I dreaded using it. Windows 7 is a solid OS. I know that an opinion like that won't be real popular on a site like this, but so be it.

Nov 03, 09 - 05:01 pm Comment from: Cubert

So be it,
I appreciate your 2 cents. All voices are welcome here - some just may be drowned out.

deAgonia reports, "As an IT professional, I support both operating systems at work. But I have Macs at home; after all, who wants to troubleshoot computer problems on their own time? My final verdict in this smackdown? It's not even close: Snow Leopard is the better OS."

Just replace the name with mine.

I work for one of the big shops... think calculators... and it is the same for me. I use 03/08/XP/V/7 side by side all day long, and my house is all Apple gear.

I also didn't 'switch' until June 2007.

I think that makes my view somewhat objective...

Nov 03, 09 - 05:24 pm Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

@Another IT Guy...

To be completely fair, the first guy at Computerworld who did the Windows 7 vs. SL comparison was a 20+ year PC guy.

Also, I sure wish someone would survey IT professionals and find out how many are Mac users at home. I suspect the percentage is much, much higher than in the general population. That should tell you something.

Zune Tang®

You make me laugh you must be really sad mate bet your about 40 and live at home with your mum and never had a Girlfriend!!!!

Have you got nothing better to do than be a sad PC lover and hang around Mac websites.

Maybe you should get out more!!!!!

What?


Your potential. Our passion.™

Zune Tang
====================

Microsoft is the new GM, giant to fall from glory.

It makes a loss on the following Zune, Windows Mobile, X Box deparment, Bing.

Its sad that people still think its the best thing since sliced bread

Nov 03, 09 - 09:41 pm Comment from: Jubei

@Zune Tang®

Youre grandma is hot. I gave her breakfast after your Windows 7 Party!

Nov 03, 09 - 09:51 pm Comment from: DogGone

Don't feed the troll. Although I actually kinda enjoy ZT takes.

mac os x is nothing when compared to Windows 7. Windows 7 rocks.

Nov 04, 09 - 04:35 am Comment from: pdxflint

You guys will figure out Mac user Zune Tang's gig eventually. Don't go getting all hot and bothered by it, cause it makes you the fish for the amusement of his hook and bait. Instead, enjoy ZT when he manages to pull of something really funny, and encourage him/her when it's a bit flat... which it was today.

Anyway, ZT - if you're going to keep your fans you've got to put a little time into it and get the edge back...

I am tired of hearing about people complaning about shelling out the money for windows. Then they say go try Mac OSX, its cheaper. News flash for all of you, legally you cant install Mac OS x on a PC you need a Mac, which is way more exspensive than a PC and has narmal specs. If you wan cheap windows than go to win741.com and you can get it for $29.99, i did.

Nov 04, 09 - 12:05 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

"If you wan cheap windows than go to win741.com and you can get it for $29.99, i did."

Nice price. Too bad Windows sucks.

Macs cost a bit more, not a news flash, but they are worth more. And so is my time.

Windows users apparently do not value their time very highly since they are willing to put up with the loss of it to keep Windows stable and running and virus-free.

PCs will remain the choice for the illiterate, poorly educated, low income masses.

All the smart and educated people are already moving to Macs.

Nov 04, 09 - 12:13 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

Another IT Guy:
Wow...a 20-year Macolyte decides he likes Apple better--and this is news?

MacDefenseNetwork must have a shortage of red meat for the Cupertino KoolAid crowd.

What do you call a 20 year Windows / PC user? A Microsoftolyte?

How many people that have been using Windows for a long time know what OS X is like?

If Mac users are drinking KoolAid, what are Windows users drinking?

Flavor Aid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor_Aid