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Dec 22, 09 - 06:59 pm Comment from: TheConfuzed1

Word to ya' mutha.

Dec 22, 09 - 07:00 pm Comment from: MediaXYZ

Bummer that.

Dec 22, 09 - 07:09 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

$290 million seems like an awfully low fine compared with how much MS has raked in on Office over the years.

Other news sources on this story have noted that this i4i patent doesn't cover Mac Office 2008, nor does it cover any other word processing programs such as iWork, OpenOffice, etc. Apparently, it's very specific to just the Windows version of Office.

I'm not a fan of software patents, so I can't really cheer for i4i here. Nevertheless, I can at least chuckle at the trouble Microsoft is experiencing as a result of this.

$290 Mil for F'ing over yet another partner/small business
$500 Mil to Verizon, so Verizon can F over their customers.
Millons lost on the Zune.
Millons lost on the XBox
Millons lost on WinMob being a joke
Millions lost on doing search badly
etc...

Seriously M$ is like the ant and the grasshopper fable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper

And I am darned happy to see it.

Dec 22, 09 - 07:24 pm Comment from: Ferf Muckmeyer

I know everyone touts iWork as an alternative to Office, I really wish it was. It just isn't there yet. What Apple should do is develop something like an IWork Professional to blow the doors off of anything MS comes up with - including VBA support. Unfortunately until the business world opens their eyes (if they do), better hope that Office for Mac is still around for years to come.

It would have been nice if MS didn't have this "loophole" and they had to stop selling Word altogether.

Dec 22, 09 - 07:32 pm Comment from: Lava_Head_UK

Loooool poor things

I need to get me one of those $290 mil patents.

I agree that Pages isn't Word's equivalent yet, but it does much better than Word at desktop publishing/design work. Getting closer, but still needs some features to truly challenge Word. Apple's also going to have to get the Word translator feature down so that Word documents can be opened without items like auto numbering turning every line to a "1".

Dec 22, 09 - 07:38 pm Comment from: Jubei

I use Pages. If you must use something, get NeoOffice or OpenOffice Org. Why bother with MS POS.

Dec 22, 09 - 07:40 pm Comment from: alansky

Whatever does or doesn't work as an alternative to Office, Word is a miserable excuse for a word processing program. Clunky and hard to use are just the beginning of Word's faults. One can only imagine how good Pages would be if it had been one of Apple's flagship products for the past 25 years.

Microsoft Word: Clumsy. Complicated. Bloated. Ugly.

How did we let it become so prevalent?

Dec 22, 09 - 09:17 pm Comment from: Brulek

Word was ok in about 97. Featurism has laden it with so much crap it can barely function. Pages does not suffer by comparison with Word in the least. There are a few minor annoyances with pages, with regard to drawing in tables and such, but otherwise it's a superior product to word, particularly given the price. Even open office offers a good word processor. More so since both pages and it can save documents in PDF, unlike word.

Dec 22, 09 - 10:39 pm Comment from: LordRobin

Wow, Microsoft has really lost their touch. Time was no one was better at stealing IP than them. They seem to have forgotten the necessary first step of forming an "alliance" with the Toronto company first.

------RM

Dec 22, 09 - 10:43 pm Comment from: Ampar

Speaking of Microsoft stealing code (again):

Microsoft’s Top 10 Excuses for Stealing Plurk’s Code

1. We were going to bring the code right back, we just wanted to drive it around the block a few times.

2. No one else seemed to be using it, so WTF?

3. There was this really hot coder chick we wanted to impress, and this was the only way we could think of doing it.

4. It looked just like our code, it was dark, and we picked up theirs by accident.

5. It’s called Plurk. Hello? LUZRS!

6. All the other cool microblogs use Javascript and we’re stuck with this C++ sh!t leftover from MSN 3.0 .

7. Plurk is located in friggin’ Canada — it’s not like they’re from an actual country.*

8. OMFG will U pls just leave us ALONE? God we h8 U.

9. Google and Yahoo steal other people’s code all the time but we’re the only ones who ever get in trouble for it.

10. Steve Ballmer is our illegitimate daddy — how the f**k else do you expect us to act?

http://www.esarcasm.com/8934/microsofts-top-10-excuses-for-stealing-plurks-code/

*kidding, Canada, kidding (my disclaimer)

Dec 22, 09 - 11:23 pm Comment from: 45north

I use Star Office by Sun Microsystems, It's a variant of Open Office. It takes over a minute to open but it's what I use at work. Why does Apple want to compete with Star Office?

Dec 22, 09 - 11:37 pm Comment from: Mac-Daddio

Too funny. The reason Word is the defacto standard is because it does everything under the sun. You say "Bloated" I say "Feature-Laden".

I use Neooffice. But, I still get compatibility issues with it . I have seen the same lame comments about Excel being "Bloated". Neooffice is a close comparision. But, it does not have all of the features or the ability to handle large worksheets. So, again...you say "Bloated"...I say "Feature-Laden".

One thing I don't like about either MS programs is their inability to behave well with Spaces. Other than that, there is not another program in each of their categories that match Word or Excel feature for feature. Lay it on me, Jack!!

Dec 22, 09 - 11:52 pm Comment from: CitizenX

This explains why we suddenly upgraded to Office 2007 on Monday of this week.

Pages may not have all the bells and whistles of Word, but I'd rather write than ring bells and blow whistles. Sure, businesses and publishers insist on Word documents, but all you have to do is export to Word and they'll never know the difference. I've published three books written in Pages. I've got Word on my computer but I've never found a need for it.

Dec 23, 09 - 12:46 am Comment from: Mac-nugget

I am just glad that my work barley requires MS Word, or any of Microsoft's software. I do have to import Word and Excel files in to InDesign, but I don't usually need to fiddle with them out side of the Adobe Creative Suite.

If MS stop producing MS Office for Mac & closed its' MBU...How would MS conduct their R&D;? "snap"

Apple's iWork + Bento are Consumer / SOHO apps & for most people that works just great! They do need a Work PRO app to kick it up a few notches. Work Pro + Filemaker Pro would kick corporate booty. If not, use Open Standards "Office" apps...professional offices do NOT need MS Office in the Internet Age & rise of Apple.

Dec 23, 09 - 03:26 am Comment from: wyatt

Use neooffice made for the mac

http://www.openoffice.org/

Why use Word? One absolutely use word to be sure of compatibility with formatted documents. Until Pages, OpenOffice, et al., can save documents with the formatting 100% intact, there is no choice. Believe me, universities, etc. WILL NOT tolerate files that are not formatted for M$ Word!

"MDN Magic Word" - simple, as in the reason to use Word is simple: document compatibility.

Dec 23, 09 - 08:51 am Comment from: Hm...

Irrespective of M$ being the target, this patent craphole in Texas must be shutdown!

Dec 23, 09 - 09:13 am Comment from: HazMatt

Mac-Daddio said:
"The reason Word is the defacto standard is because it does everything under the sun. You say "Bloated" I say "Feature-Laden".

Augh… no. It's bloated, bloated, bloated. It tries to do way too many things to cater to too many people and only gets in it's own way. I have to immediately hunt through dozens of menu options to turn off every annoying automatic feature that is on by default.

I'm not saying Word doesn't have its uses or that someone other than me can't use it with more success, but Word will ALWAYS be equivalent to "bloat" in my book.

HazMatt

I'll keep using Word until Pages can do cross-referencing and can merge data from Numbers as easily and well as Word merges data from Excel.

Apple iWork / Pages can open WORD docs & PAGES docs can be saved as WORD docs...
So...why do you need MS WORD at all?

Dec 24, 09 - 07:48 am Comment from: hagar57

Alansky,
as a matter of fact, there once was a superior word processing software. MacWritePro beat the pants off Word 5 and was still more stable and versatile than Word '98, especially when it came to integrating figures (speak: layouting). We used MacWrite for all standard writing chores (even in classic mode after Jaguar and Panther replaced MacOS9) until Pages came along.
Like Tim Flint, I do all my professional and hobby writing in Pages, seamlessly exchanging manuscripts with partners in the WinWorld. Now that Pages interacts with EndNote (or rather the other way around), I have finally kicked Word from the Dock. Another excellent text processor is Bean which I often use for raw typing. It's free and lightning fast, plus it can export as html.