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the guy is a loser and a hit whore.

I feel sorry for him.

the things whores do to make money, sad.

Thank you for NOT posting the link. I would love to know how many people click the time link. You can then advertise that you kept x amount of people away from newsweek because of this article.

Jan 06, 09 - 07:04 pm Comment from: Jubei

Newsweek, another news company ending up in the repository for low class journalism.

Much as I hate to agree with the man, it WAS boring (especially the iWork bit) and very disappointing - no new mini, no new iMac and no surprise. worst Keynote I've seen

Jan 06, 09 - 07:14 pm Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

The fact that the keynote was boring is good. Now no one will miss it in future years.

When Apple only had one or two new products a year, MacWorld was a fine place to announce them. But now Apple releases a couple dozen cool things annually and throughout the year. Saving all big announcements for MacWorld every January simply no longer makes sense.

The MacWorld keynotes served their purpose. Now it is time to move on. BTW, don't trip over Mr. Lyons as you leave, but feel free to spit on him.

I haven't watched the keynote yet, but there weren't any announcements that I read about that had a WOW factor. It's not surprising either. But there will be a WOW moment this year. That's a guarantee.

Apple has said for a couple of years now that it is moving away from the major shows and making product announcements as they are ready. Why would a lack of whiz-bang product announcements come as a surprise?

The way analysts have hammered Apple after Macworld events, even if Apple introduces the items they expect, is unreal. I don't think they even know that Macworld is not organized and put on by Apple.

Jan 06, 09 - 07:19 pm Comment from: Shadowself

Hmm... they announce major -- sometimes game changing -- products on a regular basis and then don't announce something spectacular and suddenly Apple's completely out of ideas?

Has everyone forgotten the "announcement" during the fourth quarter financial call where Apple said they were working on a new product line and it would take about a year from then to complete and would cost significant R&D;? I guess that can't really exist since they re completely out of ideas.

Everyone screamed and the stock took a significant hit because of that announcement. Too bad since that idea and product can't exist according to the know-it-all Dan Lyons.

He REALLY needs to stick to satire.

As a journalist... even on Apple which he should know... he's pathetic.

I mean, my gawd, the obsession with the perfect battery. It is SO Steve Jobs is alive ALIVE and in charge.

And MacWorld keynotes virtually always disappoint. You can't release an iphone every year... you do it once and improve improve improve. And remember SJ is "most proud" of the things they don't release.

This is quintessential Apple--the REAL Apple--for the past decade. DL is comparing it to the myth of Apple. Remember that the "ipod hifi" was once an important keynote item [apologies in advance if I misremember and it wasn't at a MW keynote].

And we need the guys in Cupertino working on iPhone OS 3.0... and longer battery life without compromises... not going off in a different direction so DL has something to write about.

The idea that Apple wanted out of MW because the expectations of an iphone like announcement every January is impossible to meet--I think that idea has been vindicated.

Making nice with the music industry so no more DRM is really important. Hardly fills a keynote though. Innovation is hard to schedule.

The lameness and cluelessness of DL on Apple is painful because FS was so wonderful.

Reality: DL is out of gas and has nothing interesting to sell. And he's not Dvorak... he's the next Mary Jo Foley.

Jan 06, 09 - 07:25 pm Comment from: Andy

Personally, I thought the keynote was great. It gave Phil a perfect opportunity to present iLife 09, iWork 09 and the 17" MacBook Pro.

I mean, what do people want from Apple's presentations? Clowns? Fireworks? Glass cubes... ?

Additionally, I think the new trend to give Apple engineers their 15 minutes of fame is a fascinating touch; what other company pays that much attention to the dimensions of a battery, or the structure of a notebook's shell, for starters?

All in all, Phil did a good job and I'm satisfied with how it turned out. I'm definitely getting iLife and iWork, too!

Perfect example of why Apple needs to stop doing Macworlds. People's expectations from this trade show have gotten insane. Who can possibly keep up with it? If Apple's product cycles dont match up with macworld, we have crazy tech columnists proclaiming their impending doom.

The more of this I see the more I absolutly agree with Apple's decision to stop doing Macworld keynotes... if people want "WOW" announcements from Apple, they they have to let Apple do them on it's own timetable, not IDG's.

no tablet or netbook killer unfortunately equals no WOW factor.

Even SJ would have been seen to be flogging a dead horse today.

Hey, even a Mac Mini upgrade or a HDMI port update to it would have been interesting. A 17" version of a 15" product is hardly going to raise the roof ( or the share price tomorrow).

Jan 06, 09 - 07:35 pm Comment from: tvopdx

love it. steve jobs' keynotes always are followed by stock drops; there seems to be a disappointment factor. no matter how many great products apple announces, the market says not enough. so phil does a decent keynote (hey he's not steve ok?), and what do you know - the stock drops; just as if steve himself gave it.

and despite the complaints - drm-free itunes, and a great refresh of the 17", and nice new features in ilife and iwork - is a very decent macworld product roll-out. jeez

and now we'll get new stuff announced all year long, when it's ready, and the apple machine will grow through the recession, leaving competitors in the dust and with fat profits that allow the r&d;to create more great products.

i'm a happy camper. and long in apple.

Why are so many commentators falsely claiming that there was "nothing interesting" at today's Macworld? Is it just because they've built up all these ridiculously unrealistic expectations that they can't appreciate reality?

Jan 06, 09 - 07:42 pm Comment from: Not Bill

Soon we will see Snow Leopard. New iPhones will come. We just got the two greatest notebooks every created a short while ago. The iPod touch is taking off along with the Apps Store. Perspective is important here.

The horses are at the second furlong and this guy it pointing at the starting gate to say it is empty!

Jan 06, 09 - 07:43 pm Comment from: JadisOne

Idiocy seems to be the mantra of "writers" as of late.

Alright usually I do not comment but this is enough. Bottom line, no one will EVER be pleased with the Keynotes at Macworld or WWDC. Apple could come out with a flying car that drove anywhere you wanted just by thinking it and people still wouldn't be happy. Even when the iPhone came out it was something like price or why didn't upgrade this or that. When 3G came out people STILL complained about stupid little stuff like copy and paste. Apple is victim of their own success. The MacHeads expects EVERYTHING, and the critics fish for hits like this guy.

So you didn't get a iMac, Mini, or Pro. Boohoo. Who is to say these won't be updated within the next month or two. Apple clearly wants to go by their own schedule, that is one of the reasons they aren't doing this anymore. They take this chance to point our their effort in engineering. Everything else is a simple product announcement. The Pro doesn't need much updating, its already miles ahead. The iMac wasn't update TOO long ago so stop making it seem like you haven't seen a new iMac in years. As far as the Mini, it is their budget computer, the lowest priority, they are not going to put cutting edge into it because it wouldn't be cheap then! Like I said, because it didn't come out today doesn't mean it isn't coming out, you guys will just have to speculate more for a month or two. So you should be happy, you still have something to do.

Why no Snow Cat? My guess is they are playing the cards closer to the chest. So they can hopefully, hopefully, hopefully pleasantly surprise you and devastate their competition.

Bottom line, stop b*tching. The just updated a slew of software with really useful stuff. Needed? No. But useful, depending on who you are. DRM free music, which people have been complaining for forever, and Apple needed to keep fighting with Amazon. Then there is the MBP, which is all I really wanted. They delivered. The most perfect computer ever while keeping it essentially they same price it was at (unless you want 8GB!). The only thing I wish they did was have a 500GB HDD, which I am sure they will get the next time they update after Snow Cat comes out. I CAN WAIT. Please people, STOP THE WHINING!!!

Amelio did better.

Jan 06, 09 - 08:06 pm Comment from: Roger Knights

I'm glad they're taking their time with Snow Leopard. Rushing Leopard out the door was a bad idea.

I think they may stage an event in a few months where they roll out Snow Leopard plus a refresh to their entire desktop line that complements SL. It'll really be significant, even though not as flashy as a whole new product (like a netbook-type item). It'll put more distance between the Mac and the PC world, which will pay off big-time in the long run.

Jan 06, 09 - 08:08 pm Comment from: EvilRonin

The guy sounds like a tool and a hit whore. But MDN looks just as bad by resorting to their usual name calling and then refusing to put up a link to the article because someone dares criticize Apple.

Jan 06, 09 - 08:40 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

Yo

MDN

Yeowza

Jump in THAT guy's shit with BOTH feet

GRRRRRRR



You're in excellent form on this one

Keep it up

Love it






BC

Jan 06, 09 - 08:40 pm Comment from: MacDailyNews Webmaster

EvilRonin,

We're still looking for that link. As soon as we find it...

In the meantime, lighten up, Francis.

Is this guy still bitter that people like Fake Steve Jobs better than him? Did he watch the same keynote as I did? There weren't dancing girls, but there were several solid updates announced, most of which people have been begging for.

I guess the people who found the iWork stuff boring don't use iWork. I use Pages and Numbers, and more than once while Phil was talking I thought "oh, cool" or "finally".

The iLife stuff, on the other hand, didn't interest me, but parts of it still looked cool.

But this fool, may be correct. Nothing special came out of this macworld event from apple. Software upgrades, Big Deal, Itunes new features, (Boring)..

Fact is that Apple is getting so big and so recognized that the yearly high expectation Macworld cult convention simply isn't nearly as important as the millions that are walking into their stores each day learning about and buying their products. It's just preaching to a small choir when a new huge world choir is being discovered. I would bet a small percentage of people walking into an Apple Store barely even know what Macworld is. It is simply small potatoes now and less important.
For me, I would rather see two things..one is Apple making everybody at CES drool and weep...second....Apple giving live H264 streams from directly form their new campus to the world...when they feel like, not every January. That would be cool.

Jan 06, 09 - 08:51 pm Comment from: Bitjockey

Real Mac users are still delighted with the detail oriented announcements made today. None of us want anything before it's ready and we are all happy to see our favorite company perform the less flashy, but expected polishing of the product line. Patience and Appreciation for Thoroughness are virtues yet to be adopted by the current tech press.

You can freeze headers in iWork now which is great news for me. I bought the program on the spot and I'm very happy.

I enjoyed the show and wasn't bored at all but that's just me. I am glad Apple won't be doing any more though. They make no sense for the company.

A very common mistake is to assume your own interests are those of everyone else.

HIT WHORE!!!!

I think Steve is going to give a big presentation on 25th Anniversary of Apple II

When Apple takes 10 years to update a crappy OS with an even crappier OS, then maybe you can say they've run out of steam like Microsoft.

That guy just doesn't get it. It's not that Apple has nothing interesting to sell, but they are still working on it. ie: the bread is still baking in the oven, it's just not ready yet. That's why Apple pulled out of Macworld. They just cannot take the pressure and risk rushing products out when it's not ready yet just to present them at Macworld at the beginning of each year. Apple will burnt out that way.

Worst case scenario- as expected, Steve Jobs didn't show up and nothing earth-shaking was announced, as expected!

I expect Steve to be OK, and for this idiot Lyons to keep writing his obituary and now using words like "excrutiating" and "out of ideas" only reflects upon himself.

OK, I think I'm getting an ever-increasing sense of which writers, magazines, and websites to avoid. "Fake Steve Jobs?" This guy makes Dvorak look deserving of a Pulitzer!

Jan 06, 09 - 10:18 pm Comment from: Roberto

I finally am dying to buy a 17" MacBook Pro. I have never really wanted one all that bad; so this is a big deal for me as a professional, PowerMac/Mac Pro only user.

So that proves Lyons is truly a clueless jerkoff.

Jan 06, 09 - 10:22 pm Comment from: Roberto

And I bought iWork '09 today, delivery in the next 24 - 48 hours. I expect it to be as terrific as all updates to Apple products have always been for me.

Jan 06, 09 - 10:36 pm Comment from: BGuy

I think a lot of people are missing the point. Notice that 4 or 5 Apple employees were featured on the show with significant "parts", not just walk on/walk off. This was intended to show the depth of Apple - that it is not a one man show. Pretty smart, I'd say.

Man...what is it with some people? I guess when you are up, the only way you can go is down right? I for one am glad Steve is playing it this way. It is unfair to think that when someone hits a home run every time at bat for ten times in a row and that the eleventh time when he only gets to first base...well....what a loser (notice people how loser is spelled!!!!)!

Way to go Steve, hope you had a Merry Christmas with your family (you are allowed to have a normal life you know), get well and I await the next product announcement by you. I hope it is this summer and that Apple has had a enough time to polish whatever they present to its usual high standard (and not feel pressured to shovel shit out the door ASAP).

As for other negative comments posted here, get a life people. Lyons is an asshat...try not to imitate him.

I think that it was impossible, after the iPhone, to continually keep up the ante with every MacWorld. Unfortunately, Engadget and other blogs and Techies expected a Whiz-Bang product release every January. Innovation does not work like that. It's usually in 5-7 year cycles. In hindsight, it is probably a good thing at this point for Apple to temper expectations before they become irrelevant.

Jan 06, 09 - 11:12 pm Comment from: cwa107

While I often found FSJ pretty funny, Dan Lyons has had his day and is definitely starting to sound like a royal asshole.

Jan 06, 09 - 11:41 pm Comment from: justme2

Watch for a "special event" around April or May, where the new Mac mini and other products will be announced by Steve Jobs as part of his "grand comeback", after he's put on a few more ounces. I'd say they weren't close enough to prime time for an announcement right now, and Apple didn't want to piss off potential consumers.

The iMovie improvements and DRM-free music (along with variable pricing) sound pretty cool -- I've been pretty much "meh" on iWork but might check it out anyway. I'm most excited about being able to buy/download music via 3G; if it works on podcasts it'll be awesome as I've got some that I want to be able to update on the road when I'm traveling and away from my iMac.

Jan 06, 09 - 11:46 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

The Big News ... they will be Beta Testing their iWork.com package before going prime-time with it. Yes ... they learned a lesson with MobileMe.
I downloaded the demo of iWork9 ... just to hold me over until I get to the store ... and what happened? "You gots to have 10.5.6 to run this good stuff, boy". I yam SOoo ashamed! Tomorrow I'll grab a copy for my own system (this is my wife's) so I can play a bit.
<whee!>

I commend you on managing to create a profitable business model for yourself and cull together enough news around a single company to sustain it.

Your profanity is unnecessary in the above piece and really just makes you sound whiny and hostile.

Wasn't it the worst MacWorld you've ever (not) seen? Wasn't it a pretty sad set of product introductions? Didn't you think Jobs missing made it less effective? Aren't you troubled that the CEO makes virtually no public appearances while the stock gets slammed every other week on rumors of his health declining?

Are you really so blindly positive on Apple that you can't show any bit of balance in your commentary? Or is your blind faith what these shills on my screen that want to sell me Macs, Adobe software and iPhone accessories pay for?

I've come to your site because I like Apple products. I like having a good and informed source. When you vent on reporters and analysts, let loose a string of foul language, the only information I get from it is that you're acting like a spoiled child.

C'mon, too much at this show and it would give credence to the value of MacWorld. This simply shows that Apple is doing a yawn on the show. New hardware is needed, so an announcement in the near future with everyone flying to Cupertino will reignite the new hardware gimmes.

If Sony had a conference every time they updated a computer product - let alone a Consumer electronics product - they would be scheduled for one per week.

Apple is no longer SJ & Woz operating out the back of a garage - its a company worth billions. Surely the result of all their toil is more than a 17" version of an existing 15" product and a few software tweaks to attempt to bolster sales of software that has long since pasted it's original sell by date.

@agog
I don't wish to be a MDN apologist, they can defend themselves better. However, when you veered slightly off topic in your decent criticism of MDN and suggested that it was 'the Worst MacWorld' etc. you basically stated your opinion that I (and I'm sure there are a few others) don't happen to agree with. But the way you presented it, didn't feel like an opinion but more a fact, which it wasn't.

So, it seems to me, you feel you have the right to opine (with or without a solid foundation) while a Mac-centric opinion site shan't. MDN doesn't write news articles themselves mostly, just quotes/paraphrases Apple related news published elsewhere and adds their occasional commentaries on them, hence it's an opinion site.

Now, on to your opening criticism of MDN resorting to name calling in order to make a point, I would somewhat agree with you. I remember I cringed at one of MDN's harsh words leveled against a Mr. Steve B. of Microsoft a few months ago. I felt it was unnecessary if not utterly inappropriate even as a commentary. MDN is an unabashed Apple fan, and doesn't play the PC (no puns) or tone down their rhetoric on things they are passionate about. I like that about them, as I'm sure there are many tune into MDN first thing in the morning for that very reason. At least, here is an opinion space where Apple fans can be amongst their peers without having to tone down their voices and opinions without having to worry about being offended or criticised for being a fan of a company and its leadership.

I have a feeling you and Macro Marco are looking for something else, or are shopping at the wrong aisle.

Anyway, having said all this, going back to that criticism of name callings, MDN would do better to add a touch of class on their comments, as any true Apple fans would expect nothing short. Otherwise, it may look like pot calling kettle something off colour. Calling someone an Asshat for wishing ill-health to SJ (which, btw, DL did) may look less convincing if not hypocritical when compared to the commentaries against Ballmer by MDN.

I cannot believe some of the crap that I've been reading on this site and others. What the hell are you guys rambling about the presentation being boring? Thank goodness that I was able to see the thing in its entirety for myself. Sure, the Macbook Pro battery thing was boring, but where the hell were you when he presented iLife? Am I the only one on the planet completely blown away by iPhoto's face recognition technologies, allowing you to tag one face and have iphoto search through your entire library for that one person or group of people or the geo tagging feature which was amazing?

Additionally, the IMovie additions that incorporated a lot of what was missing in the initial release was nothing short of fantastic. Did you not see the slow-motion effects? The freaking anti-jitter technology and the audio overlay functionality, along with the themes and other seamless additions, many of which didn't require rendering?

Boring? I'll tell you what's boring. All of this f**g cynical BS that has become blogging. That's what's f**g boring! Everyone is a sarcastic bastard. Nothing is ever good enough! Show me another company producing anything close to this? And Apple gives this stuff away with a new Mac.

Let me tell you something else. This was the first time EVER that I didn't even wait for the keynote to finish before buying iLife tonight. This was so freaking incredible.

If you haven't seen the keynote, I urge you to look at the first 30 minutes or so to see iLife. That was just incredible! Forget the cynical bastards whose lives are incomplete without blogging pure bullshit all day. See the presentation for yourself and decide.


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...one more thing....

To all the ridiculous bums clamoring for an iPad or some other ridiculous thing. Did you bother to look at the economy? Have you looked at the demand curves? Didn't Palm give up on something similar?

Come on people, think before you blog. All of this ridiculous speculation. Apple will release it when it's ready.

Then there's the iPhone Mini..... Meh!

I'm wondering if he even saw the presentation, or what he thought wouldn't be boring. Maybe he doesn't work with software or something, but I was very pleased with the presentation of iLife and iWork, both of which I use, and will use more. Sure, one could credibly say Phil Schiller is not as dynamic as Steve Jobs, but that would be too much for one company. PS did a thorough and enlightening presentation, I learned about the new products and what I can do with them. It was sorta inspiring for some projects I have ahead of me.

Very good discussion for the most part here. If Apple are now to announce the new and exciting on their own timetable, I hope to God that when they announce it, it is ready immediately.

There were few things worse for me wrt MacWorld than seeing a wonderful new product announced (iPhone v1 and MacBook Air come to mind, both of which I bought as soon as available) and then not having it be available for one to six months. Now perhaps we'll have the announcement line up better with the availability like it used to more often than not.

Jan 07, 09 - 05:09 am Comment from: The Great Microsoft Shiller Massacre

@Marco Macro:

"Sales were flat in November and December for a reason..."

Yeah. It's called a recession. Look it up.

I actually thought Phil was better than Jobs. The new enhancements in iWork and iLife were needed a lot more then any new Mac Mini or tablets. Great software is the main reason people will enjoy a computing platform. These upgrades will enhance tens of millions of users' experiences.

"When Apple takes 10 years to update a crappy OS with an even crappier OS, then maybe you can say they've run out of steam like Microsoft." - freediverx


As long as Apple is around Microsoft will not run out of ideas. Notice how they have separate applications now for calendar, mail and contacts in Vista?