“Darwine version 0.97, still not officially released, is available from the Darwine site, and has been used to create a working Windows compatibility environment on an Intel-powered iMac. The forum on the OSX86Project site contains a breathless account of how to get Darwine working, but does present a note of caution: pieces are still missing, and running anything but the most basic Windows .exe files doesn’t work. Still, this is fabulous progress, and is only a matter of time,” MacSlash reports.
Full article here.
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Macslash is still around? Wow
It’s only a matter of time now.
almost nobody needs a Windows PC for anything anymore.
Get a Mac and have both!
Pay for Windows if you want ALL Windows apps.
Use free Darwine if you want SOME Windows apps.
Use OS X for everything else.
And do all of the above–fast–on your thin and silent dual-core iMac.
But the question I always ask myself is this…
WHY?????? WHY OH WHY OH WHY DO I WANT TO RUN WINDOWS ON MY LOVELY MAC??????
All of the pundits were talking about the ability to dual-boot Windows & Mac OS on Intel Macs and I posted here and elsewhere that DarWINE would be a better solution, more secure, less expensive and would be coming. This is a small (in resources) project that has accomplished a great deal with a very bright future.
Code Weavers, a longtime commercial supporter of WINE on LINUX has announced their intent to support DarWINE on the Macintosh. Still, the project could use more support. Here is the team.
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/team.php
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/faq.php
Tony,
You are missing the point! Run the Windoze Apps WITHOUT WINDOZE!!!
MDN: “Darwine now functional on Intel Macs, run Windows apps on Apple Mac without Windows”
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/: “It is being released as a DEVELOPER PREVIEW so USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! It is not yet suited for mass distribution or general user use.”
You know … I read MDN to stay atop the Mac news of the day, and I fully understand that I have to waft through some flagrant cheerleading and homerism. But the sensationalist MDN headline frustrates me. You’re not being professional in manipulating partial facts to suit your agenda. I expect this from the New York Times, the Washington Post and even the White House. But MDN? Why was I expecting better? ~~~
A friend of mine yesterday saw my new 20″ iMac Core Duo and he wants one. The problem is he must run AutoCad software to work at home. Virtual PC is not an option as it is too slow for such an intense program. As long as AutoCad remains windows-only he willl need a windows computer or the ability to run it on a mac at near native speeds.
And now
the end is near;
and so I raise
the final curtain.
Bye Microsoft. You had a nice run but you are obsolete.
Tony The Tiger, if you don´t know by now don´t worry about it. You obviously don´t need or use that software.
And from their notes there is only a PPC version so all you Mactel boys and girls can´t use it.
So is my understanding correct that 0.9.7 is just 0.9.6 recompiled to run on Intel macs? If so, then this isn’t as big of news as it seems, since the 0.9.6 can only run a very limited few Windows applications. Until Darwine can run more than just Minesweeper I wouldn’t get too excited. There is likely still a long road ahead.
In any case, I’m all for these Darwine guys. I know at two people who want a mac, but need to run at least one windows app for their job.
cow
MDN magic word: saw as in “moo”
To jan and dean:
The PPC version on their site is version 0.9.6. This article is talking about a different version for intel, 0.9.7. I wasn’t able to find the intel version on the darwine site though. Anyone else find it?
Tony the Tiger is pointing his claws in his ears a screaming “I can’t hear you!” over and over again.
Does this mean viruses could run too?
glad cow: Someone posted a binary in this forum:
http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=8699
However, it looks like people are having a hard time getting it to run. Haven’t tried myself as of yet.
Calm down friends, Wine is a long way away from being the user-friendly solution for running Windows applications under MacOS or Linux. If you’d ever played with Wine under Linux you’d know what I mean. Support for practically every application has to be added by hand – and every time an application gets updated the process has to start again. Even “supported” applications are often unstable or have partial functionality. If the ability to run Windows under MacOS is a measure of the healthiness of Microsoft, then I’d say there’s a lot of life in that old dog yet.
It works for me… Intel iMac 20″ … Here’s a screenshot of my desktop running Windows apps:
Pinball
Solitaire
Minesweep
..this is a great start. Very limited compatability, but the fact that its happened at all, so quickly, is remarkable and bodes very well for future development.
WINE in all of it’s forms does not run the Windows OS at all. No copy of Windows is installed at any time. What WINE allows is for you to be able to run applications software that was written for Windows on another platform or OS. The x86 version of DarWINE is a beta and is not directly linked to from the home page. The PPC version is.
As to a virus or worm. Any virus or malware that seeks to exploit specific code resident in the Windows OS should not execute as the OS is NOT present in WINE. A virus or malware that exploits code resident in an application MIGHT be able to execute, based upon it’s dependency upon OS specific code.
As to the security of the API set and code base of WINE, that is a question for an audit team to determine. I am sure that the WINE developers would not like to advertise known or possible vulnerabilities. Like any application with hooks this deep into the OS, security holes could be possible.
Now this is useful. But why not take this concept a bit further?
How about folding this capability into 10.5, running the Windows apps at native speed, not in an emulation mode? It can be done.
That would be preferable to installing Windows OS on a perfectly good Mac and would possibly week enterprise off Windows apps and OS too.
Correction: I meant “ween” instead of “week.”
Just the Facts is right. It’s the Windows OS that is vulnerable, not so much the applications.
And what the heck is these Microsoft ads doing on MDN anyway?
Cool start.
MacDoctor, if Mac OS X could run Windows apps natively, then many developers would just develop for Windows. Apple can in no way justify this as a standard feature of the OS. They won’t stop people from doing it, but they won’t ever officially support it.
Hey, you know what I think?
I think it’s only a matter of time now.
Remember X11 (or similar utilities) was out before Apple officially added X11 as a support product.
I’m sure once Darwine becomes mature enough to work for most windows apps Apple will add that to their repertoire. I’m sure though that they will wait until Adobe and M$ have produced universal binaries for their suites.
Once that happens game over for M$. Apple will OEM the OS and allow other vendors to sell intel based macs. Much less overhead selling software than hardware. Apple can still sell their inudstry leading design, but also make money from other computer makers wanted to licence the OS.
Why are Mac users so fired up about running Windoze apps on their machines? How many PC users are there clamoring to run say the iLife package, or Delicious Library, Comic Life etc… The success of PearPC leads me to believe so many others are excited at that prospect /sarcasm.
It just seems so pathetic. It’s like a Porche owner salivating at the prospect of being able to drive a Ford Focus or something. Why lower yourselves? (hehe, yea, now I’m being elitst.)
Oh well, each to their own I suppose.
Myself, I’d prefer a virtualized environment – at least then Windows (read: Windows and associated malware) can be kept somewhat controlled. I hope.