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Nov 02, 09 - 01:13 pm Comment from: Cubert

Does anyone really like using that little tiny ball on a Crackberry?

And yet another great reason for the stock to drop!

Nov 02, 09 - 01:51 pm Comment from: chabig

"it won't appeal to businesses because it doesn't have a keyboard, which makes it not a very good email machine"!

Nov 02, 09 - 01:55 pm Comment from: Spark

@ Uther P.

Of course you've heard that a rising tide raises all boats. Well, the converse is true as well. An ebbing tide lowers all boats. The markets turned bearish on Friday and the market is soft. AAPL is just echoing the entire NASDAQ right now.

Good one, chabig.

Here's another of my favourites:

"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer."

Nov 02, 09 - 02:35 pm Comment from: Predrag

Most stereotypical enterprise shops have very strong resistance to the iPhone. The sentiments about BlackBerry and iPhone are very similar to those towards Windows and Mac. Argument often goes: "BB allows me to push any kind of security policy out to the devices, there are management tools out there, besides, if I give people iPhones, suddenly everyone will be putting private stuff on them, downloading unauthorised apps, music, podcasts..."

For your average IT shop manager, the more restrictions he can put on the use of the device, the better the device. Realistically, the differences in security features between BB and iPhone are the dealbreaker for a negligible percentage of IT shops out there. Everyone else could most certainly switch to the iPhone and still be able to tick all the necessary boxes on the security requirement sheet.

If what DB claims is true, and the trend continues at the same pace, we'll surely have more robust enterprise deployment by the time 4th gen iPhone arrives next summer. And very likely, Apple will deliver some more features that IT dictators demand before willing to consider the device for their shop.

The best part of the story is that WinMob is rapidly disappearing...

Does anyone cares about iphones? I don't

YAWN!!

The Future is Windows Mobile.

http://www.bing.com When it comes to decisions that matter, Bing & Decide

Nov 02, 09 - 02:58 pm Comment from: thethirdshoe

@I'm a PC
Maybe you're a PC, but basically, you're a sheep.

Nov 02, 09 - 03:03 pm Comment from: qka

Be kind to PC. He didn't adjust his clock, or his calendar this weekend.

He still thinks it's 1999.

I'm sorry you cannot "tick off" all the needed boxes around security.

- Apple doesn't open the needed API to control the device at the level needed (progress though)
- encryption is a joke and busted the week it was out. Please get FIPS certified like yesterday
- Jailbreak happens way to quick. Once Jailbroke all kinds of apps are available to access the root to obtain said busted encrypted data as well the data cache of images everytime the home button is pressed

Apple has a long way to go, yes not every company needs strong security and the reality is also this growth is where PERSONAL LIABLE devices are allowed. Most companies want nothing to do with that no matter the negligible cost savings. Still company data you have to be mindful of, still the same regulatory concerns. State of Mass has a whole consumer data protection regulation about to hit March 1st that extends to businesses of ANY size. So Apple needs to fix it's encryption. It's pretty said when even 3rd party solutions admit it's up to Apple to fix.

If Apple will give up control of the iPhone, drop any need for iTunes, keep the device from being hacked so easily as well find a means to deploy enterprise developed applications IN HOUSE - sign me up - until then, keep your personal iPhone to yourself.

But I will agree - good riddance to windows mobile. Can't wait to shut off ActiveSync and be done with that half baked mobile solution.

2% to 8% is only a rounding error!

Nov 02, 09 - 03:38 pm Comment from: HazMatt

@stereotypical users
You actually sound like you know what you're talking about!

I'm glad to read some reader feedback that isn't just off-the-cuff comments for a change.

Nov 02, 09 - 03:42 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

From comments above -
"For your average IT shop manager, the more restrictions he can put on the use of the device, the better the device."

IT Translation . . . the easier it is for me. Screw productivity, I'm not responsible for that.

I have both, my personal iPhone and my corporate CrapBerry. I use more the crapberry for internet access just because it is free. It is a pain in the A$$ to use it but it is free and I don't want to spend my own money using my data plan in the iPhone (it is very expensive in my country).

So when ever you see that crapberries are competing with iPhone in internet usage, that is because internet in most of the crapberries is free, not because it is easy to use.

I also like how Balmer said the iPhone was the most expensive phone in the world at around $600, when many at the time cost over $1000, including the one he was touting at the time!