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So, Apple pays royalties to Qualcomm for their 3G radio tech, thru their OEM, Foxconn who actually buys the parts. Sounds smart. Isn't this how they also pay those Nokia royalties? Their OEM pays, since they are buying the parts?

Don Clark ... stop jacking off as you read the profits and ASPs Apple gets for the iPhone. Pretty soon you will say that the profits are undeserved, you dumbass.

Nov 23, 09 - 03:14 pm Comment from: Gregg Thurman

Loophole? Not hardly, this is nothing more than an anomaly in "usual" practices, brought on by the fact that Apple doesn't manufacture the iPhone directly.

If it was planned by Apple, then I say good for them for being smart enough to capitalize on it. The reality is that, among many other factors, this was considered when deciding to manufacture themselves, or contract it out.

Ummm, I though Qualcomm was the licensor of CDMA for Verizon and Sprint technology. Apple uses GSM on AT&T;. Why would Apple, or via their OEM chipmakers, pay Qualcomm directly or indirectly? They don't have anything to do with CDMA.

Sounds reasonable to me. Qualcomm is getting their royalty based on the value of their part, which is assembled into a product by Foxconn. They have no right to more based on Apple's own "value add", which is reflected in their price to AT&T;.

Isn't this the same for every other OEM as well? Problem is, no Telco is willing to pay Nokia or Moto or Palm or RIM $590 for their phones.

Yes, the article basically implies that ONLY Apple is doing this, and all other manufacturers make sure that they pay Qualcomm the maximum amount of money possible.

Or the hit-whore is just making sensationalist articles about "random-fact" and Apple that if you just glance at the headline, makes it seem that Apple is doing something wrong, while after you actually read the article and apply some critical thinking, you realize that Apple is doing EXACTLY what all other manufacturers do to hold down their cost of production.

Your are right that ATT is GSM and Qualcomm has not license fees associated with GSM. Howver, ATT use WCDMA for 3G and will LTE for 4G, both of which requires license payments to Qualcomm.