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Dvorak: Apple needs to make Mac OS X open-source
Monday, April 17, 2006 - 03:46 PM EST

"A cloud is rising over Mac OS X and its future unless Apple makes its boldest move ever: turning OS X into an open-source project. That would make the battle between OS X and Linux the most interesting one on the computer scene. With all attention turned in that direction, there would be nothing Microsoft could do to stem a reversal of its fortunes," John Dvorak writes for PC Magazine. Boot camp is a "carefully orchestrated test-marketing scheme" that's divided into three steps, according to Dvorak:

Step 1: Testing for level of interest - Will it sell more Macs?
Step 2: Determining functionality without risk - Does Windows work on a Mac without Apple's support?
Step 3: Blowback analysis - Is the reaction from the Mac community and others positive or negative?

Dvorak writes, "So far, everything seems to be going well except for the blowback, which seems to be mixed but mostly positive. Much of the positive reaction, though, seems to stem from the mistaken supposition that having Windows on a Mac will make OS X look better by comparison, so people will flock to OS X. This is a dubious and dangerous conclusion for Mac heads to draw."

Dvorak writes, "If the Windows test keeps going the way it's going, the results may indicate that Mac users are more likely to shift to Windows than we used to think. But what will happen to Mac OS X? I suspect that the testing of Windows on a Mac might be duplicated in reverse, with a similar test of the Mac OS X running on a conventional PC... [If] Microsoft perceives this as a threat to its business... Microsoft's stance alone may prevent any universal acceptance of OS X on the desktop from ever happening. In fact, I assume that as this is being written, Microsoft has coders in its skunk works tearing into OS X looking for deep flaws that it can exploit and publicize. Don't think otherwise. It only makes sense that they'd do this. Thus a cloud is rising over OS X and its future unless Apple makes its boldest move ever: turning OS X into an open-source project."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Apple needs to give away free Macs to people who turn in their Dells, HPs, Gateways, etc. Apple has billions and billions of dollars to finance such a move. That would eliminate the cloud rising over Apple's future and it would be Apple's boldest move ever: even bolder than making Mac OS X open-source. Do that and there would be nothing Microsoft could do to stem a reversal of its fortunes. Also, Apple should turn the company cafeteria into a roller derby rink and start a worldwide league with teams and merchandise and concessions and everything! That would be really, really cool, huh, John?

Hey, we can throw stuff all around to see what sticks, too!

On a serious note, believe it or not, Dvorak's not completely and totally nuts: if Microsoft ever does feel threatened, expect them to play some really, really, really dirty pool. Imagine if Apple took the Darwine route (run Windows apps on a Mac without Windows) with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard - forget about sweaty dancing, chair throwing, and f-bombs, Ballmer's bald head would pop right off like a Dandelion. Even if, after some time with both operating systems, people just determine for themselves that they want Mac OS X to boot over Windows, then realize they can do without Windows altogether and start telling their friends, the sirens will start blaring in Redmond. Mediocresoft won't concede too much more share without a nasty fight. We expect Mafiasoft's first step would be to motivate their willing accomplices in the press to begin a real smear campaign of Apple and the Mac. As Dvorak suggests, they'll try much worse if and when that tactic fails. We hope Apple's prepared.

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Apr 17, 06 - 04:26 pm Comment from: Neil

Dumnass. 'Nuff said

FP??

Apr 17, 06 - 04:33 pm Comment from: etr

Dvorak saying that's what Apple should do is about all the motivation Apple needs to not even consider it...

wink

Apr 17, 06 - 04:34 pm Comment from: Andrew

Dvorak is a idiot, but we knew that aready.

MDW: "point" like what's the point of arguing against a idiot?

Apr 17, 06 - 04:35 pm Comment from: Schmutz!

I hate slow news days. Between Dvorak and his clones boot camp has been beaten to a pulp with third grade hypothesis. Why when Apple has made most of it's money in the last 9 years by thinking different, would it concede to a company that stabbed them in the back. Dvorak, maybe you're one of those in the media we need to be aware of?

Apr 17, 06 - 04:35 pm Comment from: Björn

Well, this is a true Dvorak... .

Sit back and grin.

Nothing more to say about that.

I turned my back on windows and will never ever return.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:36 pm Comment from: DCchesterUK

So Steve and the gang are a step behind the dumb asses at Redmond, I don't think so.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:37 pm Comment from: mintdog

He is an idiot.

Microsoft is a software company. As far as they are considered, more Boot Camp Mac sales = More XP sales.

This is not an issue about war or threat to or from MS.

Users who buy a MacIntel in order to have the "backup" option of running XP are unlikely to ever give up XP entirely. Therefore, Microsoft does NOT lose. Virtual PC is a money pit for them. If Apple bears the expense of development of virtualization (in Leopard, and possibly with an acquisition of Parallels, Inc), then Microsoft gets to sell XP to Mac users without any other development costs for platform migration.

It's a total win for Microsoft. All you people who think that MSFT is going to wage war are idiots.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:39 pm Comment from: Thorin

IF, IF, IF...

More wild speculation from a very vocal

and notorious Mac hater. Typical Dvorak

doom and gloom. Apple will not lose market

share, nowhere to go but up! even if they make

no gains, Apple is still a healthy outfit, even with

no iPods. They survived the mid 90's, and have

a much better product now in hardware and software.

Dvorak has predicted Apple's imminent demise

handfuls of times. He has a bad record in his

"prophecies", yet people still read his swill.

He makes me shudder.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:41 pm Comment from: Glaken

Does this guy really BELIEVE this drivel he's spewing?

Man... I know several people who bought the intel Macs, with the idea of using bootcamp to help them "transition" and once they got OS X booted up, they never looked back. They were surprised everything just "worked" and one even said he was in "nirvana" when he hooked a printer up holding the driver disc in his hand only to realize it worked better on the Mac WITHOUT loading the factory drivers then it ever did on his windows box. None of the folks I know who've switched have even seriously thought about windows since the transition.

Anyone who buys a mac and adds windows via boot camp and stays in windows is simply a glutton for punishment.

"MDN Magic Word"=actually

As in... Does Dvorak ACTUALLY have a brain and has he ACTUALLY USED Mac OS X?

Apr 17, 06 - 04:42 pm Comment from: Mo

How many tech journalists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Apr 17, 06 - 04:43 pm Comment from: Shaddap

You fscking Tool

Apr 17, 06 - 04:46 pm Comment from: sea

More Dvorak shock and awe. Hard to believe that he's paid to do this shtick thing of his.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:47 pm Comment from: Rasterbator

That's it. I just dumped This Week in Tech from my weekly podcasts. Dvork is a complete ass. I encourage everyone else to dump TWIT if you are still listening to this podcasst. The guys at TWIT should dump this guy, but he has taken over the show minutes and it will be hard to get rid of a blowhard like him. Diggnation kicks their butt anyway.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:48 pm Comment from: musicman

The only Dvorak worth listening to is Antonin.

Apr 17, 06 - 04:49 pm Comment from: bank shot

Dvorak: ever hear of Darwin?

MDN's take:
if Microsoft ever does feel threatened, expect them to play some really, really, really dirty pool.

MS is still figuring out how to put their cue stick together (Vista).

MS can try to play as dirty as they want; every major world government is closely watching their every move. MS's only revenge option is to chalk up their cue & win through good straight shooting, something that's very alien to them.

Somehow it's easy to picture cool, smooth Jobs shutting out bald, fat Ballmer in a pool match any day. =)

Apr 17, 06 - 04:49 pm Comment from: Thorin

"Does Dvorak ACTUALLY have a brain and has he ACTUALLY USED Mac OS X?"

It doesn't matter, the anti-Mac brain block is too etched into his psyche

(and his ego too large) for him to ever acknowledge OS X supremacy.


MDN magic word "given" - Dvorak has "given" his will to M$

He probably wishes Windows had no competition at all,

can you imagine how bad it would be then?

Apr 17, 06 - 04:51 pm Comment from: Even Bolder Move

Apple should drop using a micro-kernel and switch to the Linux kernel as the underpinning for OS X. This way Apple, armed with Linux, could really turn heads!

Apr 17, 06 - 05:01 pm Comment from: crayon1

"I assume that...Microsoft has coders in its skunk works tearing into OS X looking for deep flaws that it can exploit and publicize."

You can also safely assume that Microsoft have coders in their "innovation center" next door to the skunk works, taking OS X apart and "borrowing" what they can to try to salvage Vista... Frankenstein's monster...

Apr 17, 06 - 05:02 pm Comment from: Truth is…

…switching friends from Windows to Mac has become really easy since Bootcamp

Apr 17, 06 - 05:02 pm Comment from: Oh, the siren call of Viruses, Malware and Securit

Yeah, they'll all come a-runnin'!!

Apr 17, 06 - 05:02 pm Comment from: rasterbator

Aple Macintosh turns heads = 1
Linux turns heads = 0

Apr 17, 06 - 05:04 pm Comment from: wont happen...

This wont happen because Apple's police has always been ..


Their OS can not be installed on any hardware other than Apple's
They wouldnt make any move that is not in their favor.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:05 pm Comment from: rasterbator

Dvorak is to Windows Tech as Rush is to Republican Politics

Better check his medicine cabinet. wink

Apr 17, 06 - 05:12 pm Comment from: edward

first off mac os x can't be open source. no way because OS itself is very expensive investment, Apple has throw a lot of money to develop. now everybody knows mac os x is the best OS in the planet. plus it is major desicive fact for apple last destiny. so they will hold it tight. however nobody think the scenario which MS will be faced with difficult situation just like mid-90s what Apple used to be. it is possible. MS has suffered from development of windows vista which even is delayed more now. they're finally out of idea and end up with what they paid for which copied mac os x. you never know how IT world will be changed. MS is not forever. someday they will be small or split up or windows will be passed behind the history.

by the way, for public open source idea seems to be good but it's not helping Apple at all. mac os x is different from linux since they both have been each way to be developed.

if you use mac os x, you will never go back to windows. it's true. I hope that Drovak(?) will have a chance to meet mac in real life (just don't talk about mac without experience, stupid head!)

Apr 17, 06 - 05:13 pm Comment from: whatever

This must be one of the most dumb Dvorak pieces ever, and that means a lot...
MDN's take is also utter crap.
What a load of crap, actually, this entry in MDN's slow Monday...

OS X is already open-source, at least Darwin is. Besides, there's tons of open source under OS X (Apache, MySQL, etc.)

This is just torlling for hits, a moron that knows nothing (and never did) and MDN falling for his trap, what a load of fscking crap...

Gives us some substance, not that bulshit...

Apr 17, 06 - 05:15 pm Comment from: truth hurts

Why not? Phasing out the Mac OS should make its release to the world a true non event. It will happen and the reaction will be: who cares?

Apr 17, 06 - 05:15 pm Comment from: gforce

sorry MDN ... YOU'RE WRONG on one major point:

Dvorak IS totally and completely nuts.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:19 pm Comment from: kenh

RE: " In fact, I assume that as this is being written, Microsoft has coders in its skunk works tearing into OS X looking for deep flaws that it can exploit and publiciz"

Dvorak, you must be kidding.

From your vast storehouse of technical knowledge, please just tell me how MS software engineers could possibly accomplish that when they can't get Vista out on time, and have thousands of viruses on the various flavors of existing Windows operation systems.

You would love OSX to be Open Source so that the MS software engineers could to a "cut and paste" to create the next Windows.

And you think that someone smart enough to create OSX is going to bite on that one?

Tell me what I am missing here. Awaiting your response..............

Apr 17, 06 - 05:20 pm Comment from: max

Dvorak - Czech for Open Top.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:22 pm Comment from: Jooop

What's this "Mac users are going to switch to Windows!" misguided bullshit that I've been reading from Dvorak and Enderle lately? What are they basing that assumption on? Do they really think we Mac users haven't been exposed to Windows, don't know what the fsck it is, and when we finally see it for the very first time, we'll all see the light and switch?

Umm, guys, if we wanted to use Windows, we would have bought a PC with Windows and a bag of chips from the 7-11. The fact that we use Macs means that we don't WANT to use Windows, we have gone out of our way NOT to use Windows, because WE DON'T LIKE WINDOWS. So why on earth would we "switch" to it just because the Mac can now boot into it?

Are Linux users "switching" to Windows just because their beige homebuilt towers and their super-l33t blacklight Dellianwares can boot into Windows?

People who use something other than Windows do so because they made a CHOICE not to use something better. The ability to run Windows isn't something new to us. We could always run it if we wanted to, on pretty much any piece of junk we
found in alley. We've seen it. We've used it. We know it. It's that ugly, unstable OS that never changes. Boy I can't wait to drop OS X for that!

Apr 17, 06 - 05:23 pm Comment from: Simon

Bootcamp has already made a change in the education market - my school never has to buy another PC again and schools tied into their local education district's love of windows can go the apple route and still keep the government boys happy. This has already happened with one school near to mine and others are contemplating it.

As long as Apple keeps on making great software for MacOS, they don't have to worry about people only ever running Windows on their macs. Have you ever tried Windows Movie Maker?????

Now, if they just bought Adobe/Macromedia....

Apr 17, 06 - 05:25 pm Comment from: Greg L

I've been reading Dvorak since Infoworld was still a pulp-paper, wait-for-it-in-the-mail subscription. Back then, he was an "elite" computer user and he resented the Mac because it was a "WIMP" computer (Windows, Icons, Mouse, Pull-down menus). The Mac made computing accessible to mere mortals and reduced Dvorkak's competitive edge he had in being able to use a command line-based computer.

Dvorak was a complete moron then and much of what he writes is a metric ton of military grade bullonium.

What everyone needs to do is stop reading his collumns and he'll dry up and blow away because he can't do anything else productive for the human race except deomstrate how stupid he is.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:25 pm Comment from: Mark

Why would a pro-microsoft guy want to do something to harmful to microsoft? I don't trust this guy and believe that he is anti-Apple and is somewhat fearful of Apple at the moment.

- Mark

Apr 17, 06 - 05:30 pm Comment from: unfettered

Apple should continue give away a free copy of OS X with every Mac they sell!

I just hope they can keep it off of generic PC hardware.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:32 pm Comment from: Holy Mackerel

Would there really be more than 2% of Mac users who have never used Windows? John, we KNOW Windows already but we CHOSE Macintosh. The migration to Windows from Boot camp would Ultra-negligible, and even then they would have Mac hardware. Are they really going to ignore the iLife apps they already own and are one option key away?

But there must be about 80% of Windows users who have never used a Macintosh. So, even if a small percentage of them move to Mac it could double the installed base.

Plus, sales lead to more sales - friends want what friends buy, students want what schools buy, employees want what companies buy. As more friends, schools and companies buy Macs, more sales still will come. Boot camp is enabling this foot in the door.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:33 pm Comment from: imax

And Porsche needs to give away Cayenne Turbo S's.

What a dick.

Apr 17, 06 - 05:36 pm Comment from: G-ZUS

Dvorak is so silly. Microsoft needs to make Windows open source so other programmers out there can help them fix all the security problems, and other multitudinous problems.

http://musobs.blogspot.com/

MDN word: act, as in: Microsoft, act now before it's too late!

Apr 17, 06 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Desperate Mousewipes

The bigger Apple gets, the more creative the PC hard-ons have to get to paint a gloomy picture. (I mean, COME ON now, Rising cloud knells?!?!) Keep covering your ears and closing your eyes every time OS X pops up in front of you - because a cloud IS rising over Windowsland. And it's got an Apple logo on it.

Apr 17, 06 - 06:08 pm Comment from: Queezzie

I don´t think a lot of "Mac heads" realize yet that Steve has a new vision for Apple. What it is I don´t have a crystal ball, but I think he is realizing its time to shake the dice and gamble on some new direction. Making the iPod work on Windows was a major step and bolstered Steve not to ignore the 96-98% of the computer market, but try a new direction.
In a year from now lots of the "Mac heads" will be going "what the hell happened?" as Apple embraces the Windows crowd.
First Intel chips in Macs to standardize with the Windows world, then Windows on a Mac... everything is converging away from a "go it alone" attitude of the past.

Apr 17, 06 - 06:18 pm Comment from: Drunk Cheney

People that want a cheap-ass computer will always be directed to buy a pc running Windows. Who's got $300.00 for a computer (or one for free). Cha-ching for Windows.

Anyone that has been a Mac user will CONTINUE to be a Mac user (the base 3-5+%). None of those people are going to experience an epiphany and switch to Windows - that just is NEVER going to happen. They have had the experience and KNOW why they use a Mac.

The higher end PC buyer will consider the Mac because it runs Windows too - they can play and check it out. Plus Apple has status that MS can't touch.

Apple is going to come out ahead. NOT Microsoft.

This article if just MS FUD.

That is my theory and it's mine too.

Apr 17, 06 - 06:23 pm Comment from: mudflapper

This guy can't be for real. Seriously. I'm starting to think he writes these articles just to whip us into a frenzy.

Which is actually REALLY funny.

m

Apr 17, 06 - 06:23 pm Comment from: G Spank

it's gonna be an interesting Christmas...

Apr 17, 06 - 06:25 pm Comment from: RobInNZ

Does he really think that Apple is going to cut their own throats?? OS X and the experience provided by OS X (just works) is the differentiator in a sea of me-too-pc's for Apple. While Apple do make classy looking hardware, at the end of the day, "its the OS, stupid".

Any person I know that has considered a move to Mac's has done so for the 'whole-widget' approach and the promise of a better computing environment. NOT because of the hardware, but usually IN SPITE of it. Keep in mind that we are all techs in the PC industry and are well capable of putting together a PC for 1/3rd the cost that blows the Mac out of the water spec-wise.

The general cry is 'Id love a Mac, ESPECIALLY now they can dual-boot, but they are too bloody expensive'. Just to give you an idea, once we pay local sales tax and get ripped by the local Apple distributer, an iMac costs us ~US$2025 (v's US$1699). PowerMacs and laptops are even worse, costing US$500 or more extra locally. Coupled to that, the margins for those RRP's are so low that there is NO discounting so whereever you go, you can pretty much expect to pay retail.

Now couple that to the fact that the iMac is effectively a non-upgradeable box from our point of view. Sure, a bit more RAM and different hdd are possible, but the other important part in the equation is the video card. None of us are hardcore gamers, but we expect to be able to run the latest and greatest games acceptably and so video cards are upgraded more often than anything else.

The mini, as a complete consumer machine, isnt an option. The iMac is an AIO and the PowerMacs are too damned expensive (coupled to which, its cripplingly expensive upgrading to the very limited number of Mac compatible video cards available compared the to PC).

Before you tell me video cards arent that important, just look at Aperture. More and more s/w will become GPU dependant over time, not less. I knew this 3 years ago when i brought a Powermac, specifically to gain video card upgradability. If I were one of the iMac owners who brought at the end of the lifecycle with a FX5200 embedded, Id be spitting tacks right now!

Please, Apple, give us a PowerMac-Mini!!! It only needs one or two expansion slots (if any in addition to a slot for the video card), but with at least 2 drive bays and preferably onboard hardware level mirroring.

Anyway, to bring this to an end, without OS X, Apple is just another PC manufacturer. I like the elegance and design of Apple hardware, but it really is only shelf-level componentry for the most part. OS X is Apple's selling point. If you open-source it, or sell it to run on generic whitebox, then Apple's hardware divison will get very small, very quick.

Apr 17, 06 - 06:39 pm Comment from: TripleHead

Dvorak is more right than he is wrong in this case.

There's no doubt in my mind that Microsoft has been testing OS X since the announcement that Apple was moving to the Intel platform. What would happen if they released a virtualization that would run OS X on a Windows machine? Any of those 'curious' Windows users would have no reason to switch to a Mac - and since Apple, so far, has not licensed OS X for any PC, all of those OS X virtualizations would be running free, hacked copies and Apple would be losing out on that revenue. Game over and Apple remains a small marketshare.

This is NOT a hardware war. Since the move to Intel, there is not very much difference.

The one thing that Dvorak is worng about is making OS X open source. That would ensure the OS X install base would become fragmented - not good.

Apple needs to license OS X for qualifying PC's - THAT would be a threat to Microsoft that they could not stop!

...and Apple would make Billions!

Apr 17, 06 - 06:39 pm Comment from: maczealot

Dear John:

I hear that Microsoft is in a bit of a pickle. Longhorn is dead and Vista is on life support. Have you also considered giving these bozos advice, too?

Thank you.

Apr 17, 06 - 07:07 pm Comment from: qka

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/357.html

Apr 17, 06 - 07:10 pm Comment from: maczealot

Triplehead:

"...Microsoft has been testing OS X since the announcement that Apple was moving to the Intel platform."

Seriously? After five plus years and no Longhorn and a much delayed Vista you think Microsoft has the resources and know-how to develop an OS X emulator? Good ganja ya got there, peewee.

Apr 17, 06 - 07:16 pm Comment from: dee-oh

Dvorak should make himself open source, so penile appendages of every animal size and girth can fit snuggly inside him.

Apr 17, 06 - 07:36 pm Comment from: Tico

Dvorak says- "no company, including massive IBM, has been able to compete with or unseat Microsoft from the desktop"

To that, I say-

The only company that can unseat Microsoft from the desktop is not IBM, it's not Sun, not Red Hat, not even Apple folks.

It's Microsoft itself. Apple is just "playing it by ear," so to speak. Microsoft is doing the rest.

Hardcore Windows users are just as tubborn as hardcore Mac users. These are not the target. The target are those who are essentially clueless, and buy according to the prevailing wind.

Right now, the wind favors Apple. But that could change in a jiffy.

I, personally, am waiting for the next great computing breakthrough: OS agnostic computing. And don't expect it from either Microsoft or Apple.

Apr 17, 06 - 07:59 pm Comment from: standardmess

@Tico

AKA: AJAX

Google will come out on top.

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