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"Burning CD's is convloluted"

Yeah, drag files onto the CD, then click "burn" icon in the Finder, or select Actions > Burn.

Yep, to a PC user I can undestand how he might find that convoluted.

John, the Mac is a PC (Personal Computer). Buckethead.

"hit-whore". I like the sound of that.
I think I shall use it in at least one sentence per hour tomorrow.

My calendar says July 26th.

Are you sure you haven't been holding this back since April 1st?

Whoa. Twilight zone.

Are you sure his column didn't get hacked or something?

I've been using both Mac and Windows for 15 years, and the gab between them is smaller than ever. Windows definitely has it's advantages over the Mac.

It's not as bad as it used to be. The Windows ME experience has faded away from my world, at least.

gap, not gab.

@macmaven

There are two definitions of "PC". He's using the Windows definition.

Butthead.

Actually, usually when I see "think before you click" it makes me annoyed that I'm being told what to do.

Actually, that's the one thing I don't like about my mac. It seems that at times I'm always being told what I can and can't do. It tried to mollycoddle me at times... very protective. I know this means it can remain more secure, but at times, it irks me.

he also writes:
Now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps I should rethink my use of the word "elegant" when I describe the machine and the way it functions. See, most people use this word because they love the often-gimmicky stuff, such as the bouncing icons and sweep-away window minimizing. It's all very interesting but superfluous.

I just looked out the window and saw pigs flying!

"I just looked out the window and saw pigs flying!"

And the sky is turning red...

Where's MacDailyNews' posting of the YouTube video of Dvorak where he talks about baiting Mac users? Please post this in conjunction with this article!

" ...the differences between the Mac and the PC that really matter are minor. The big exception is the usability factor."

The differences between filet mignon and a hammer that really matter are minor. The big exception is the edibility factor.

Does he even think about what he writes?

Geez that guy is pathetic.

That drunk clown of a writer probably has used a mac in his personal life for years. No one would know, because no one will visit him.

> "The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mouse.' There is no evidence that people want to use these things."

Did he really say that in 1984? When I read that before on previous MDN takes, I always thought it was a joke.

Thankyou MDN, that was a good laff, I feel a bit guilty, perhaps he really cant help being stupid

My dogs are sleeping with the cats

My roosters are sitting on eggs

The rabbits are chasing foxes

And no matter what he does, or says, or writes

Dorkvat will always have his head up his ass

Bless his heart, he SHOULD stay with Windows

Hate the thought of him being on 'our side'

Would force us to re-think how to Think Different™



BC


(thought about doing a whole bit on him finally 'coming out of the closet', but he was only peeking through a crack in the door, then quickly ducked back in ... oh well)

@.-estimations-. You must stop posting to MDN.


Besides I like it when my Mac, Bella Edna, I call her mollycoddles me, often with a nice cuppa tea and a plate of biscuits in the arvo, a shoulder rub every now n' then or even a subtle word of advice, passed on with care, affection and WISDOM. Sure, I like the cosseting, that's why I buy Macs.

.-estimations-. you must do as you're told!!

Dvorak is still a duche bag.

@coolfactor

One word: Bootcamp

OMG..Nooo! Get it away from him & give it to the poor & needy.

Big John used to be a Mac pundit. He has always used Macs.

His trolling for hits even pre-dates the internet. His first target was letters to the magazine he worked for praising or flaming his outrageous articles. He went from everyone's favorite Mac writer to everyone's most hated Mac writer in a matter of months. The hatred was so bad that the parent company moved him from a Mac magazine to a PC magazine because they were taking a big circulation hit.

Oh, one other thing. He hates Steve Jobs. He sunk a big part of his nest-egg into the Be OS thinking that Be OS was the best option and Apple would have to buy it. He thought he would make a lot of money on the deal. Apple bought Next and they threw in Steve Jobs for an extra $1 a year. Be OS became worthless overnight and John lost his shirt and his pants. Eeewww!

He has blamed Steve and Apple for his stupidity ever since.

Dvorak is no more "inflated" than the MacDailyNews Take is... think about it.

Yes, it's a sad day for the Mac bashers

Indeed, this is the closest to admitting Dvorak has been an myopic idiot, always spouting bullshit from no direct experience of the Mac exactly like all other moronic, idiotic assholes still present and spouting nonsense about the Mac on a daily base.

Just use it MORON, then tell me if you can say something bad.

Dvorak, you just popped out your fatty head off your fatty ass.

You saw the light for a second, you'll be back in your ass in no time too. I really want you to stay on Windows, you deserve the pain. Dvorak: an asshole revealed.

Ah, leave the old man alone, you might accidently trip his walking stick and cause him to fall. Then we all would be blamed.

Maybe he is confusing his Mac to a Windows box, after all he was the one claiming that Apple is switching to Windows.

ken1w:
"The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mouse.' There is no evidence that people want to use these things."

"Did he really say that in 1984? When I read that before on previous MDN takes, I always thought it was a joke."

He really wrote that. I don't remember a retraction.

More from wiki:
"In 1984 he famously criticized Apple's inclusion of a mouse with their computers, saying “There is no evidence that people want to use these things.” In 1999, he ridiculed the iBook as “‘girly’”,[6] saying, “It looks too juvenile— something a kid, a little girl, would like. Something you'd get at Toys 'R' Us.” For this he was slammed not only by Mac aficionados, but also by female computing pundit Janelle Brown for reinforcing gender stereotypes. In 2005, he suggested that recent good press about Apple was due to media bias, writing “With 90 percent of the mainstream writers being Mac users, what would you expect?” He later predicted that Apple would release a Video iPod in spite of Steve Jobs' denials, suggested that the Mac brand should be discontinued, predicted that Apple would switch to Intel chips, and suggested that Apple might be switching over to Windows and abandoning their Mac OS to save money.[7]
On 9 June 2006, he explained to Dave Winer that he would bait Mac users in order to increase traffic to his website.[8]"

He really isn't too bright is he?

For example he finishes with usability as the key difference, but in the previous paragraph says he'll recommend it to people because it causes less hassle.

So John, the reality is it is more useable, more reliable, more elegant, less hassle, more solid and with a slicker interface.

Sounds to me like he has such a massive case of Stockholm Syndrome he will never in a million years relieve himself of all Windows' shortcomings.


Good one John

Now who do we hate?

The world is getting too nice.

Just a, Dvorak going to sh@t when he tries an iPhone thought...

I have never agreed with him except on the point of CD burning IF he is referring to duplicating a CD. While I personally do not have trouble with the "create-an-image-then-burn-the-image" process I know other Mac users (emphasis on "users" vs. hackers, etc.) who find this tedious. Why not some wizard or something that just prompt you for original disc and blank disc then discards the image?

Dvorak using a Mac?

Yeah I thought I heard something about an extreme cold front really far South of here.

coolfactor??? are you kidding us? windows has nothing better than the mac. maybe some specific programs that you can't get on the mac. but the sames goes right back at windows. there's always a mac program that can get anything the windows only program can do done better.

@ deleted

"Dvorak has been an myopic idiot, always spouting bullshit from no direct experience of the Mac ..."

Of course, he may have fed that line because he imagined the reaction and thought it was amusing. I wouldn't take *anything* he says at face value, because we know he plays the page-hit game - although I doubt he's used Macs extensively.

Dvorak:

"I figured since I'm known for ragging on the Mac"

Yes, for page hits. OTOH, he's dropped the occasional comment on TWiT that suggest he's taken more than a cursory glance at the Mac and realizes it's a modern well-designed platform.

I recall Leo Laporte panicking at the switch to Intel. He had a segment on TWiT where he was talking over the phone to Dvorak. So Dvorak - for once, I think, saying what he actually thought - told him it would do nothing but good to Apple. He also said if you were buying a machine - which he doesn't do himself being one for snaffling free stuff from OEMs - why wouldn't you get a BMW (i.e. a Mac) rather than a Ford?

On another occasion on TWiT he said that he thought it likely that a few years down the road servers would mostly be on Linux or *BSD and desktops quite likely on some descendant of OS X. He has said more recently that Apple would be likely to ditch OS X and become a Windows OEM. But that was an obvious case of trolling for hits. The earlier comment had a ring of serious prediction about it.

This piece doesn't surprise me. OTOH, if he's used to Windows - and can get equipment free - he'd have no particular reason to change.

I think he does underplay the gap between Windows and OS X. However, there are signs there that he **experiences** OS X as far better but can't fully analyse why and articulate it.

I don't think it's good enough to say "Windows has got better" as an earlier commentator did. It has - in some ways - but Windows Vista is a step backwards in at least two ways from XP:

(1) It has all that DRM shite:

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

(2) It is ridiculously slow on comparable equipment compared to XP.

And, in any case, the gap between Windows and OS X is still huge. Dvorak seems to realize that but at the same time to wish to avoid the recognition.

It must be getting really cold down there in hell these days...

Dvorak, who was once a contibutior for MacUser magazine, said that "mouse" statement in 1984;

He also said in 1986: "UNIX is dead, but no one bothered to claim the body."

In 1998 he said: "Folks, the Mac platform is through - totally."

In 2000 he said: "Jobs is not a CEO for the ages. The stock may stay in the tank until the company gets a CEO who has both energy and sanity."

Also in 2000, he said: "Microsoft is not a monopoly; it just pretends to be one."

April this year, he said about the iPhone: "... the amateur mistake that they made is not having a removable battery. You run 20 minutes and you’re using up half the battery power. You get 40 minutes total talk time. And the interface fouls up constantly."

Trolling, which is for JCD an art-form, makes money, apparently.

1. Apple torments Dvorak's mind.

2. He comes up with crazy, paranoid and psychotic articles about Apple as his therapy.

3. He gets paid handsomely.

A beautiful mind.

OK, so I didn't click.

Some months Peter Phillipsen I.T. Perspectives columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald made a big noise about switching to Macs. He said he'd report back in couple of months on how the switch went. A couple of months later he gave it the thumbs up.

Two weeks ago he reported that he'd switched back to Windows. As far as I'm concerned Dovorak, Phillipsen and co. are all the same. Macs are on the rise and they want to show that they're up with the pack. They're all a bunch of effing pc trolls and not to be trusted. Meanwhile I'll just keep on using my Mac and laughing over viruses, malware and all the other pc BS.

yeah, the last thing i want in my life is to perform my tasks elegantly on my computer.

don't want nobody accusing me of being a male figure skater... those guys are the only people who should be doing their work elegantly.

It's much more manly to be working on a WinPC-box so I can scream, lurch and bellow in rage every 15 minutes like a HE-Man....

only late at night in my basement do i lift the lid and pray to my sweet cutesey cuddly iBook. nobody can see my vulnerability for efficiency and elegance.....

That must be what Dvorak does.

This is the same kind of back handed support for the Mac that Turdrott gives regularly. They're both nothing more than hit whores, and I couldn't care less if either one of them uses a Mac or not.

His next article will be more of the usual blather. Perhaps he's on vacation or having a colonoscopy and an intern wrote this. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

Dvorak is constipated, yet has diarrhea at the same time. Amazing!

MDN nailed it in their take(s): good or bad, no one should care what this guy has to say. He's undermined the worth of his own opinion too many times in the past, and does it again in glorious fashion here.

Also, be prepared for his eventual "after a month with a Mac, problems arise ..." follow up hit piece.

finally, i hope he doesn't live in an earthquake prone area -- someone should let him know about the new dangers he faces with his iMac.

DON'T CLICK that link!!!

This is the reason he writes those articles, to get traffic.
I bet he has a Mac at home, just doesn't want anyone to know this.
If not, how in the hell can he criticize something he had no contact with?

Let's all write to the magazine with requests to remove this douche.
I am surprised that PC Magazine associates itself with someone who has made so many missed predictions and idiotic statements.
He has no credibility.

We all know he'll revert back to Apple & Mac bashing within a week. Reading this schmuck's hit bait is like watching an a stand up comic bomb on stage, you'd feel sorry for them if they'd just give up and shut up.


MDN Magic Word: reading, as in I will not be reading his full article and give the hit whore another hit.

Dv-WHORE-ak? heh heh heh

It's funny to see Big Fat Jonny write anything positive about the Mac these days. Even reluctantly.

Back in the 80s, he wrote for MacWorld magazine (when it still mattered), writing irritating, if entertaining, articles. He was basically playing devil's advocate. Some things never change.

Maybe he's Zune Tang's father? Kind like Alberich and Hagen, but on a lower level? (if you get that reference there's still some hope for MDN!)

That Dvorak is a complete and utter moron. He's trolling for hits, screw him.

Dvorak is a hit-whore and mentioning him seems to produce lots of hits here. Perhaps MDN is living in a glass house and throwing stones?

I don't want to visit Dvorak's site and I don't want to hear about him on this site.

He has always been a -sarcastic- Mac user ..

I love how having UNIX under the hood is suddenly "modern". UNIX has been around for a lot longer than Windows and decades longer than the NT underpinnings windows Vista has.

The moon just turned to blood, and the Apocalypse is here upon us...


Dvorhack's words are so played down. I think he really likes the Mac, but realizes that his bread and butter is Microsoft. He knows he can't really bite the hand that feeds him, which are evident in his vague wordiness. He does get traffic by Mac-bashing. His traffic is largely the Microsoft-fanboy. If he switches to Mac, his credibility with his main audience is shot -- no more income. I bet that he will continue to be a closeted Mac user, and will continue to recomend the Mac to others, not because of his time to offer personal service, but because he realizes the true value of the Mac -- a PC that WORKS!

MDN secret word: 'numbers'
Its all about numbers now, isn't it?