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I used to have a girlfriend, about 8 years ago, with the last name Dvorak too.

She, after about 3 months, turned into a psycho too.

Maybe it's the gene pool...

Dvorak is a genius, he's just written yet another article that will make Mac users rush to read it an droves. Only this time he's got "meta" on us and starts writing about himself instead of Macs, and makes sure to rile up the Mac users by calling them names. This soap opera is highly enjoyable if you ask me. Dvorak knows how to generate hits, even in his supposed "dark hour". He'll continue to be successful, despite what MDN says, there really is no such thing as bad publicity in this case.

Sounds like he has taken alot of HEAT from the publications in which his articles appear.. Woo hoo!

PLEASE DO NOT LINK TO HIS ORIGINAL ARTICLE!!

Read it here, if you want, but DO NOT GIVE HIM HITS!

This is what journalism is. Dvorak is no different than many other journalists today and since the very first newspaper. If you believe everthing you read you're a very mis-informed person who thinks he/she knows a lot. Regurgitating information you've learned from newspapers and magazines may make you look smart to people who don't know your subject matter but to any insider or engineer, scientist, etc. you'll quickly learn that you've been had.

MDN
You have fallen for his trick,

YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT HIM

He just needs to be ignored. He will eventually have to find a new job.

Dvorak's bosses who should be very concerned about their publication's credibility:

PC Mag: Stephanie Chang, Executive Editor:
MarketWatch: David Callaway, Editor-in-chief:

Personally, I don't care at all about his credibility, any irreparable damage created, why he addressed the issue, what he thinks about Apple, or where he buys his clothes. Neither do I understand MDN's obsession with him.

The iPod+Nike Sport Kit is nutty.

MDN MW subject: as in can't we turn the page and change the subject. Just look at him, why should anyone care what he says?

In 2003 if you thought your were more likely to die from a terrorist attack than you were in 2000...

If you though invading Iraq was about freedom and democracy...

If you thought an ARM was a good idea for a home mortgage...

If you think eating a lot of red meat is a good way to lose weight...

I could go on...

MDN word: doubt

everything you think you know

MDN's formula for generating hits: post an article about Dvorak, Thurrott, or Enderle

"Of course, while he continues to work, we will keep covering Dvorak's scribbles and faithfully highlight his lack of credibility lest anyone actually believes what he writes in the future."

Awww, how noble of you guys, because, you know, so many people that visit this forum believe everything that guy says.

Who?

To the "just ignore him" morons, I suggest you bone up on your history.

While Dvorak is certainly no Hitler, I do believe that MDN performs a very valuable service by keeping tech writers on their toes.

MDN has been responsible for an awful lot of retractions and corrections from major media outlets that are a much more influential and credible that John C. Dvorak.

MDN doesn't make up LIES to generate hits, they expose the LIARS who attempt to do so.

Bravo, MDN!

Just ignore him. Maybe he'll finally go away. What a useless man.

Don't fall for this, he's doing exactly what he said he dose, this is just more crap.
The best thing we can do is ignore him!!!!!!!

Anyone who criticizes MDN for exposing Dvorak really don't understand the issue.

You should be thanking MDN for the exposing lies, myths, and FUD that people like Dvorak spread around.

Dvorak doesn't need any damage control and he's not asking for any. The Mac-zealot community has been had and rather than take the lesson, you'd rather put Dvorak down. He's doing it again right now.
It reflects more on MDN and the mac community than it does on Dvorak because everyone could predict with startling accuracy what the response would be to any perceived slight by him or any other columnist.
That you're so easily manipulated should give you pause to ask yourself why that is so.

And the worst is that MDN plays this game too with it's own readers - stirring the anti-everything and everyone pot because it knows the average reader will bite on the bait. It's too easy.

If you ignore him, his credibility goes unquestioned, and people believe what he writes for PC Rag and MarketSwamp.

That is why you have to keep shining a bright light on the weasel always until he's gone.

Dvorak has succeeded in his goal. This video has actually made me LIKE HIM.

He's not a psycho Mac-hater. He's just making fun of zealots. In this case MAC ZEALOTS.

Keep posting the Dvorak articles please, they are entertaining and should let us take a breath and realize that it's just a computer. It's just a choice.

My wife likes PCs. I think she's nuts, but I have to go along with it. Be humble. Macs aren't right for everyone. Just relax and have fun with life.

Dvorak has what must be an incredibly fun job. He get paid presumably well to rub elbows and joke around. It's probably the only thing he's ever done well and he's made it his thing.

As long as you know it going in, he's just entertainment.

FactChecker, Peter, Fred,

Agree 100%. MDN has to continue to pick apart Dvorak's manipulative FUD-filled articles.

Dvorak's bosses who should be very concerned about their publication's credibility:

PC Mag: Stephanie Chang, Executive Editor:
MarketWatch: David Callaway, Editor-in-chief:

That is why I love Dvorak. Even with the plain truth right in front of the "annoying" Mac users (case in point MDN) they will continue to fall for his tricks.

Hypocrites in denial is what most of you are. First Intel is bad and now Intel is the greatest thing since slice bread. How quick you jump from bandwagon to bandwagon.

He is right about one thing; the iPod/Nike thing is nutty....

This is exactly what he wants!

If MDN hadnt reported this is would have ZERO affect.

MDN have perpetuated his bullsh*t.

He is the Baron. MDN is his dealer...

COMMISSIONING EDITORS TAKE NOTE:

I will never link to this morons website, or to any article he posts on ANY website which cares to commission him to spout his 'opinion'.

Save your money or hire someone else to write the piece...

Nora, your post makes no sense.

If Dvorak wants to make fun of Mac zealots, then fine let him write about Mac zealots.

However, this is not what Dvorak does, instead he writes lies about Apple products in widely read publicatons. That's not cool.

Dvorak's formula is now being copied all across the internet by aspiring young writers combining trolling with writing.

I've seen it at many sites, it's a cheap way to get hit counts off of Mac users because we spend so much time online.

We actually enjoy using our computers and this makes us a target for writer trolls.

With a Windows PC I can see people not wanting to use it so they are not online as often as we are.

It IS amazing. Mac fanboys make it so easy for Dvorak. Most writers have to work to develop stories. Dvorak only has to disparage Apple and you guys fall right into his trap. It is about time you learn to ignore him and get on with your lives.

that's it Trevor exactly.

He can write all he wants and tease mac fans but to write lies about Apple products and hurt the credibility of a company (any company) is grounds for firing and never being allowed to work in journalism again.

People trust the views of journalists as experienced
tech people. It;s not for him to entertain himself
by writing false info about products just to rattle the cage.

This guy should be an outcast in the journalists circle jerk.

To those suggesting that MDN not cover Dvorak's attempt to lie his way out of his drunken video disaster, I suggest you put down the pipe.

He get paid presumably well to rub elbows and joke around. It's probably the only thing he's ever done well and he's made it his thing.

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presumably well? he's a blogger, and a tech writer. where'd you get that idea? look at what he's wearing. seriously.

After listening to This Week in Tech for awhile, I've come to realize that Dvorak is a harmless curmudgeon. He's full of s#%t and he knows it. Leo (the host) knows it, and anyone who has anything to do with him knows it. Once you read his stuff or listen to him for awhile you take 99% of what he says with a grain of salt.

Since we Mac fans normally don't read his articles or listen to him on a regular basis, we assume he's a typical PC tech columnist that is supposed to disseminate good information. That's not Dvorak and most of the people that follow his column know it. He's proud of his cranky old man image. He says outlandish stuff to get hits and he fully admits it. And it's not just Mac stuff. He's hyping some grand stock market crash in 2009 that, of course, only he can tell you about. He has plainly stated on a couple of episodes that if someone pays him, he'll say whatever they want.

So it's difficult for me to get all worked up about a guy who has no hope of being taken seriously. He's Kraemer--goofy ideas that no one really believes.

If Dvorak's choice bits are dissected here, we don't have to go to his article to read it. And that's how starving a columnist out of existence works, guys. You quote him, dissect him, and then laugh as his page hits approach zero.

Obviously a guy that got picked on mercilessly as a kid and now this is his way of getting 'revenge'.

Wanker.

"Judge Bork" hit it, above.

He was DRUNK. He did appear sober during the TWIT taping, or as sober as he could look in that shirt and jacket. He was fiddling with Leo Laporte's black MacBook, which distressed Leo a little when John first took it out of Leo's hands (Leo was multitasking, trying to host the show). Dvorak sat there for 15-20 minutes, fiddling with the MacBook, fascinated like a monkey looking at his own sh!t. On second thought, he kind of looked drunk then too.

Ok, this might be his "new formula," but to me, it's simply a variation of his previous one.

Remember the Apple will run Vista and drop OSX? How F'N pissed did that make everyone? Then, later, he wrote one about why Vista is too late!

His new formla isn't about apology, it's about an indirect attack followed by acknowledgement of failure of somebody that isn't him! "Well, my prediction would have been true had Microsoft not been so SLOW."

Still, I'll still read him, and so will everybody here.

The last time I layed eyes on anything Dvorak wrote was when he had the very last page of MacUser. 'Member that?

Many have stated "Why do you link and post Dvorak's stuff MDN!? Stop giving him hits and more publicity!?"

I find this hilarious. I gather this is the #1 hit artcile on MDN for today and tomorrow. Dvorak gets MDN lots and lots of hits, so of course they will always post a JD article or column, as his stuff works really well for MDN as well.

So if you want to rid yourself of John at MDN, don't click on these MDN articles either.

Personally, I don't mind giving MDN hits, but won't click on Johnny's latest goofiness. Although he is rather funny sometimes.

~Steven

Oh, I love taking his man donut in my mouth
and then sucking the cream filling out of it

BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots:
"If Dvorak's choice bits are dissected here, we don't have to go to his article to read it. "

Um, why would a bunch of Mac fans need to read his articles in the first place?

I agree with the other posters MDN. Why do you link to these columns? Just linking to them gives them more Google search hits to by having more links.

I stopped going to the columnists that are written up on the Mac sites. Why give them the hits or email feedback.

It truly is the only time these unread "Tech writers" get traffic to the ste. And I truly believe these writers do this at specific times due to employee contracts. Like cops with end of the month ticket quoatas. It's like having Paris Hilton on Oprah during ratings month. Or Paris Hilton having a sex tape "stolen" only days before a show debuts or something.

If Mac people would not visit the links, or really not email these so called writers to build their ego, they might stop.

PC people have no thoughts regarding their PC and thee writers get no feedback from them.The only time PC people get excited is whenthey get their yerly new box to replace a virus/ad/mal-ware infected PC for $300. Yippee! Another crash ridden Dell for these folks. that makes them happy. Leaave them alone. Apple does with the pathetic advertising they air.

So they write a Mac column. Stop MDN and others along with readers of visiting these idiots. Mac users are suckered everytime. Being that atupid people will think we use PC's.

What a bozo. This guy wins the contest for most retarded and idiotic computer journo hands down...

I think I can guess what Dvorak's "New formula" is:

1) Cash check from Microsoft

2) Trash Apple in column

3) Buy more loud shirts and cheeseburgers on "uncle Bill's" tab


Seriously though, this guy's a proven joke. Why should any reasonable person give his columns any more credence or second-thought than the rants of a crazy bag lady at the bus stop?

He is almost never right. He must have dirty dictures of one of the editors or publishers at PC Magazine to have kept his job over the years. Move along.

I appreciate MDN picking apart the so called journalists like Dvorak and Enderle. If I want to see what lies are currently being told I can come here and see for myself without having to visit the source and give them undeserved hits.
Some of you are calling for MDN to stop providing links to the original articles; however, doing so would completely undermine the credibility of MDN. Anyone with a minimum of formal education knows that you can't quote someone without acknowledging the source of the quote. In the paper and ink world that means footnotes and bibliographies, in the websphere it means providing links.

Ya know... I really have never read John Dvorak's articles. I've heard about him and the crap he spews and I never really had the compulsion to visit the rag he writes for or the links to his articles. I'm sure what he writes may be entertaining, from a masochistic point of view.

I usually visit articles that enlighten me... I don't believe he'd enlighten me all that much.

I usually visit articles that have some value... I don't believe his word is worth much to begin with.

I may be wrong in saying this, but I believe Dvorak and others of his ilk should be defined as pompous windbags that shouldn't have a profession as a writer. He should hang it up and go to work for, say, Häagen-Dazs and make milkshakes for the bloated masses, him being a bloated mass himself.

"Would you like a raspberry sorbitch bar with that, maam?"

When you are on top and you are clever you never reveal your secrets, when you are an egotist who feeds off popularity and beleves himself to be highly respected and now finds himself under immense pressure, you inevitably do . Fact is when someone is feeling the heat and can't handle it they always come out and explain how of course none of it is remotely getting to him and further more how the laugh is really on all those who of course are very successfully getting under his skin and equally successfully destroying his credability. he hopes such bravado will frighten them off but of course it won't, he is simply revealing his weakness This is the desparate last stand of a fool who finds people are laughing at him when he just so wants them to laugh with him. No chance.

This is what Dvorak does. Of course, some Mac nut takes the bait. Multiply the Mac nut by about a thousand or so and Dvorak gets his hits.

What a waste of DNA...

Please… he exhales carbon dioxide which is good for plants.

Once again. I've been reading Dvorak since about 1985. Was a knob. Is a knob. Will continue to be a knob until he starts to assume room temperature.

MDN really needs to stop making links to him. There are other more worthwhile things in the planet to discuss.