“GreenPeace has reason to be red-faced—at least if you believe the EPA,” Mary E. Tyler reports for Ars Technica.
Tyler reports, “A recent New York Times article on buying refurnished and environmentally friendly computers (free registration required) led to a nifty list called EPEAT (Electronic Product Environmental Assessment Tool) made up by the EPA. Computers that meet 23 required environmental criteria get a bronze medal. If a computer meets 50% of an addition 28 criteria, it gets a silver medal. If it meets all 23 required and all 28 option criteria, it gets a gold. None of the 300 pieces of computer equipment rated got gold medals.”
Tyler reports, “According to the EPA, Apple has the most eco-friendly notebooks, the 4th most eco-friendly desktop, and monitors that aren’t too shabby… Turns out that assuming that GreenPeace has their facts straight is a very bad assumption indeed…”
Full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “ds” for the heads up.]
We’re all for a cleaner environment, but Apple ought to charge Greenpeace a PR fee. Mostly, Apple is guilty of being a very a popular brand name which these militant “environmentalists” use to generate free publicity.
Apple doesn’t sell dirty CRT monitors, like certain cheapo Windows-centric PC box assemblers. Apple uses rechargeable batteries in iPods, instead of having tens of millions of users constantly tossing AA batteries into landfills. Apple even offers purchasers of Apple Macs and Apple monitors free recycling of their old computer and monitor — regardless of manufacturer. The list goes on.
Information on Apple’s recycling programs and industry-leading environmental policies is available online at http://www.apple.com/environment
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Apple places last in Greenpeace ‘Guide to Greener Electronics’ report – December 07, 2006
Mac Expo evicts Greenpeace campaigners – October 26, 2006
Is Greenpeace lying about Apple’s ‘toxic laptops?’ – September 25, 2006
What kind of green are ‘environmental extortionists’ really after? – September 06, 2006
Greenpeace ‘Guide to Greener Electronics’ report called ‘misleading and incompetent’ – September 02, 2006
Greenpeace criticizes Apple over toxic waste – August 29, 2006
Apple offers free computer take-back recycling program – April 21, 2006
Defiant Steve Jobs calls environmentalists’ claims ‘B.S.’ – April 22, 2005
The EPA under the current administration seems to believe that there aren’t any corporate polluters, so the fact that they side with Apple is meaningless. I hope Apple is doing the right things when it comes to the environment, but this article provides no valid information either way.
Chris, Stop the liberal BS machine. Your liberalism smells like ass!! Bla Bla Bla The current administration is the devil, and when the democrats are in power I will believe them because they are just “good” They are ALL BS artists. Clinton looked the other way on major environmental issues.
Rechargable Wireless Mouse would be great too.
Over the last 2 years Apple has instated iPod recycling programs and computer recycling programs. How many other computer companies do you know have started doing this. Apple is not perfect but they are doing things that no other company is doing!
I find it disturbing how people look at the environmental problems. If someone, say a large company, optimizes their completely fscked up workflow of toxic waste products by 20% (to meet demands) everyone seems to think that’s great and enough. It isn’t. Our grandkids will hate us for what we’re doing – or not doing right now. Okay, this hasn’t too much to do with Apple or Greenpeace, it’s just something I’ve observed.
Bla Bla Bla
Greenpeace-Go hug a tree and make sure you don’t drive to the forest, or wear leather shoes. Be very careful that you don’t hurt yourselves on the metal spikes some of you have hammered into those very same trees. Happy New Year Chris.
I found it amusing that Greenpeace was pissing about how bad Apple was. They showed pictures that were supposedly of Apple product in land fills and such. The pictures were of power cables and old keyboards that looked suspiciously like PC keyboards.
This world has a lot of problems right now, the environment is a good one to be worried over, but I think there are a lot more that are more pressing at the moment.
Agree with you Chris…
We need people like you to stop these criminal corporations from destroying the planet for our children.. BOOOO HOOO, oh the poor planet. And it’s all George Bush’s fault!!! BOOO HOOO
Despite considering myself more environmentally conscious than the average person, I think Greepeace is really showing their ulterior motives here with using Apple as a PR tool (read:fundraising tool).
I’m all for being environmentally responsible but I think Greenpeace has gone the way of most organiziations of its kind and have just become big beureaucratic money raising machines and have lost their vision of the cause.
Steve:
Stop your delusion that all liberals are idiot tree huggers. Of course if that’s what you believe I also guess that you beleive that conservatives are environment hating thugs. Is that true?
And besides, Chris has a point. The EPA under the current admin really has looked away at a lot of polluting.
These days when I think of Green Peace I can’t help but recall the scene in the movie Armageddon where a GP trawler is protesting around an oil rig (“Stop the drilling!”) while the driller (Bruce Willis) is lobbing golf balls their way (“Fore!”). Priceless.
Let me see if I get this straight: Greenpeace tried to “shame” Apple by shining a green light on their store? How retarded is that? Isn’t the average person walking by either not going to pay attention, or worse yet, think the green means Apple is really environmentally awesome?
Organizations such as Greenpeace are necessary. Know why? Because administrations like Bush’s, place former energy, gas, oil, and other executives as directors of regulatory commissions. I call THAT militant. What a cowardly, pussified thing that is to do.
But, what do you expect from chiken-shit draft avoiders?
Same behavior.
No, it’s not all Bush’s fault. You have Reagan, and Monkey-Boy’s Daddy, too (you know, the one who got George that cushy job in the Air National Job. That reminds me, what was Cheney’s excuse? OH, yeah. He ‘elected’ to pursue his studies’.)
Another pussy.
Clinton looked the other way?
Whadd’ya doin’, like 30 oxycontin a day or somethin’?
Greenpeace, however, is DEFINITELY on MY shitlist.
Why don’t they go pick on Microsoft, or Dell?
“The EPA under the current admin really has looked away at a lot of polluting…”
This is horsesh*t – the EPA doesn’r completely re-staff every time there is a presidential election. If you think that Bush or Clinton or any president busies themselves setting internal policy for the EPA, you’re dreaming.
The EPA catches some stuff and misses some stuff. It’s a regulatory body – not a police force.
No Grok.
The EPA. like any agency, has appointees who generally reflect the political leanings of the President who appoints them.
Don’t be absurd. This administration has gutted Clinton’s policies.
The rest of the world shuns us (environmentally speaking).
Same go-it-alone-attidude that got us into the American Invasion of Iraq Quagmire, instead of catching Bin Laden
it wouldn’t surprise me if the EPA decided DDT and dioxin are not harmful
We all had little doubt that Apple is a more environmentally aware company than Dell or HP – or Microsoft for that matter on OS sleep designs.
Greenpeace are jumped up little shits looking for publicity by offering scandalous misinformation.
AMEN Greenpeace. Go hug trees and newts nad keep out of my life.
The UN World Health Organization (WHO) recently announced that it was beginning a massive campaign of spraying DDT inside the homes of malaria plagued regions of Africa. It did so, despite enormous pressure from some environmentalists, because the scientific evidence is incontrovertible that DDT is incredibly beneficial and basically harmless to people. This evidence has been known for years, but enviro-groups have made it too “controversial” to use, leading to the deaths of MILLIONS in Africa. Finally, a third world medical professional with ba**s is now running this UN program and he decided that the lives of third world people are more important than the nonsense spouted by anti-DDT enviro groups. The fact that banning DDT was the cause celebre of the modern environmental movement (Rachel Carson, Silent Spring) illustrates perfectly that lying and extremism are at the heart of the modern environmental movement. Unfortunately, this is the true on issue after issue.
Sure, there are corporate polluters, and there are plenty of municipalities that pollute. The fact that the enviro “movement” focuses on corporations simply reveals its silly biases. All that is why, though I consider myself environmentally conscious, there’s no way I could call myself an environmentalist in today’s context. The solution is simple: use real science and un-biased judgment to make policies that protect public health and conserve the environment while allowing the economy to grow. BTW, the air, water, etc., have gotten CLEANER under this administration, as they have under EVERY administration in the last half-century. The stats are there for anyone to check out, developed and published by non-political appointees at the EPA.
Dave M, yes, the world has many problems. But, if we believe the science (and I believe we should since the data is overwhelming) climate change and environmental issues are likely the most important (or just below one other item). If climate change ends up being as severe as predicted, and I believe the scientists may be surprised to find it will be more rapid than they expect, life on much of the planet may become increasingly at risk. Trying to avoid near extinction of a species (us) would seem to me to be more important than whichever other issues one may rank as “more important.” I know some still don’t get it. I can only assume they have just not paid close attention to the science and the facts. Their eyes may be closed to events currently going on especially in the arctic regions. (And no, such changes are not merely cyclic repetitions of events that have happened in the past.) “Tree hugging” is no longer simply a liberal issue. All sides of the aisle are increasingly aware of the importance of keeping the planet itself alive, not just because “trees are beautiful,” but to preserve the planet’s currently dominant species for the future. I don’t know all that Apple is really doing, but almost all companies, governments, and others should be doing more. Time to do something to try to effect change is already determined to be extremely short.
It’s funny that there are many more Dell and HP computers being treated as disposable landfilling products but Apple is targeted by Greenpeace.
Hey folks Apple only has 5% of the damn computer market.
How can they be worse polluters that the combined 60-70% Dell/HP crap filling landfills?
I bet more Apples are resold and kept out of landfills than your Dells.
I thought it was cool with the green light shinning on the store. It seems like a natural thing (granny smith and all)
ehhh!
More Bla Bla Bla
It’s all about money. Greenpeace is hoping Mac users (who they believe have more money than Dell owners,) will feel guilty and donate money to Greenpeace.
Go read Roughly Drafted. It’s all documented there.
always(?) right –
I say again, EPA employess – the ones who regulate and enforce the US’ environmental policies at the ground level – are many of the same long-time employees that were there during Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan, and Carter. The insinuation that Bush has destroyed our environment by hamstringing the EPA is ludicrous. And as for Clinton – when he wasn’t diddling the little fat office girl – he gave little more than lip service to the environment. People at the EPA do their jobs regardless of who is in the White House.
@HG,
Your concern for the environment is shared by people across the political spectrum, and that is all the more reason why Greenpeace’s silly and ill-informed campaign against Apple should be denounced. It is Greenpeace, PETA, and their ilk who do the lion’s share of marginalizing serious environmental efforts by performing their silly little stunts.
I don’t agree with you about climate change, but I can certainly agree that we should constantly seek ways to reduce our environmental footprint across all industries. It’s just that lying about Apple and others to make money is not a very good way to go about it.