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Bento offends my design sensibilities.

Their mix of fonts, sizes and colors are awful. (FileMaker is worse, but you're not stuck with their theme choices.)

If they would get Apple to design them, they would likely look great. Or if we could edit them. But until then, I can't bring myself to use Bento, even though it has great features at a great price.

Is there a similar exchange for FileMaker templates?

is it just me who HATES THE STUPID POPUP ADDS THAT COME UP WHEN YOU MOUSEOVER ANYTHING ON THIS STUPID WEBSITE??? i've been reading macdailynews for years, but i'm on the verge of not recommending it anymore and using another mac sleuthing website because this is so freaking annoying i want to scream at the makers of this shitty site.

am i the only one???

Jun 16, 09 - 02:17 pm Comment from: iPhoner

@ prysonic

Might I suggest you use Safari 3? Kills pop-ups like a dream. As far as calling this a shitty site? Well ... you're one class act yourself ai'nt ya?

i'm talking about the ads that popup when you just mouse over a word. popup blockers don't kill those. i'm using safari 4. and yes, if i can't even read an article on a website because ELEVEN times i have to click a little close box just to get back to the words on the article, i'm sorry - THAT is a SHITTY WEBSITE.

Jun 16, 09 - 02:27 pm Comment from: iPhoner

Oh - now I see what you are talking about. Those can be annoying but are featured on a whole lot of tech websites. Solution? Don't drag your mouse down through the text and your day will be much happier.

Jun 16, 09 - 02:34 pm Comment from: iPhoner

@GizmoDan
" ... Bento offends my design sensibilities ..."

Kind of agree but actually care way more about usability than beauty of a database app. (And I'm a graphic designer) The only one that ever sees it is me. I've been looking for a replacement for ACT! ever since I moved over to Mac 4 years ago. That was one great program but it was ugly as shit.

I tried'em all.

Right now I use 4 apps to replace the functionality of ACT!

- Things
- Bento
- Direct Mail Pro
- iCal

i can't believe i'm the only one annoyed by this. it just gets worse and worse. every week there's more underlined words that throw ads in my face. eventually the entire damn article is gonna be one big underlined ad-ridden maze.

this kind of stuff is what kills the web experience. it's bad enough we have expanding full-motion ads with loud volume that cover entire pages or expand out of big banner ads, but now we can't even read TEXT without being bombarded with this stuff.

macdailynews, take a heads up from a longtime loyal reader and macfan, and an apple developer, if you continue with this shit you are going to deter many readers. starting with this one.

goodbye.

Jun 16, 09 - 02:55 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

MDN

You might want to adjust your Bento link


Later, BC

Jun 16, 09 - 03:00 pm Comment from: alansky

@prysonic:

No, you're not the only one who hates those stupid mouse-over pop-ups. The folks who run MDN post interesting articles but have no sense of decency when it comes to deluging viewers with obnoxious advertising.

Just use the iPhone formatted website. Not as many ads.
http://www.macdailynews.com/#_wrapper

hey MDN

have you run the mobile version of this site on 3.0? it pretty much does nothing. you touch a link for a story and nothing happens. I believe it has to do with 3.0 because I was pleased when I noticed that you had updated the look of your mobile site to be larger fonts etc... and now it doesn't work. That's pretty much all I do with my iPhone. Look at MDN and other rumor sites.

and porn.

I don't believe in blocking ads on mere principle, but when a site is as obnoxious and intrusive as MDN is with the ads... well, there's a reason popup blockers have become standard-issue on all web browsers.

Guess what, website owners - if you actually kept your ads simple and un-annoying, people wouldn't be so highly motivated to block 'em. Just because you need to earn money doesn't give you the right to hijack my browsing experience - ask the NoScript folks how well that went for them.

Jun 16, 09 - 04:04 pm Comment from: Dasgeek

I have to agree with the pop up ads. Can't stand them. This is the only website I see them on.

Jun 16, 09 - 04:09 pm Comment from: qka

@ prysonic

Learn how to modify your /private/etc/hosts file.

Works like a charm, better than any popup blocker.

@iPhoner
Take a look at Daylite from Marketcircle. Does all of Act and some more. Recently found it searching on solutions for a client. I've poured over the lit but haven't tried the 30 days as it's not a good time for me to commit the resource but I'll be trying it for myself late summer as things slow down.

I've looked at **every** app that says it will help me run my business more smoothly.
Of them all, Bento ranks as one of the more useless.

The drawbacks outnumber the benefits.
Just go to the forums and look at the endless "can Bento do such-and-such..." questions from frustrated users. To just about every question there is a nice polite reply - "no", "not at this time", "Bento cannot do this because", 'here is a workaround..."

I'm sooo glad I didn't waste my $50.

Jun 16, 09 - 08:32 pm Comment from: enzos

PYRO,
Try SafariBlock, which uses Rick's list. Hate using the web without it. I see very few ads - in fact it says (in Saf 4 prefs) that it has blocked 24,256 adds since it was installed!

Jun 16, 09 - 08:35 pm Comment from: enzos

*Prysonic* .. oops! just overlook the embarrassing typos.

if you need to use your mouse to follow the words, get classes

or is that glasses?

Jun 16, 09 - 10:07 pm Comment from: GregoriusM

I'm not sure what I have on Firefox on the Mac, but I don't get the ads popping up as you say. There are no underlined words like I see at other websites.

Perhaps it's Adblocker 0.6.5.

I have only 5 AddOns to Firefox, so I'm sure it must be that one.

Jun 16, 09 - 10:31 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

About "ugly Bento" ... it's really only as "ugly" as you choose to make it. You get to change colors, fonts, layout ... all the important stuff. You can lay it out like a spreadsheet, if you want ... and, isn't that really all a database is? Just fancier?
I didn't spend the $50, either. I'm an honest guy and I would need at least two, more likely four, seats ... so ... that would be $100 for the Family Pack. And, I just don't need it that much. I made the demo do nice things for my wife ... didn't quite convince her, though. Maybe it will be part of iWork'10?

Jun 16, 09 - 10:53 pm Comment from: NCIceman

Back to Bento, I love the concept, I just wish it was possible to more easily integrate with other applications and data sources. I do think the idea of a free app-store-like exchange for database designs is a good one...

I love the **concept** too NCIceman, but in reality Bento is just hopeless.
I read the reviews. Something stuck out when the reviewers were reviewing.
They kept saying "Bento can be used for ..." and phrases like that. They never said "I used Bento to do this or that..."
Get it? The people reviewing Bento never did a flippin thing with it. I never once read anything that said that Bento solved some organizational problem for someone.
It sounds like it would be great but then you use it and it just doesn't really do much of anything.

@ DLMeyer

A data base is not a spreadsheet. Spreadsheets are made for math problem solving, mostly accounting. Data bases or for storing, sorting, and retrieving information. The background code and design are very different.

I have seen a lot of people try to use spreadsheets for work that should have been done with a database; like making calendars to show when clients will use a meeting room. They compline about it not working, when what they are doing is using a hammer to put in a screw.

If it does not involve math don't use a spreadsheet.