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Jan 18, 08 - 11:50 am Comment from: TowerTone

"Forbes looks at what bugs Apple fans"

I'd have to say ill fitting shoes. And a bad haircut.

I don't like Jobs ever since he called the police after he caught me in his sewer collecting his excrement.

I mean, how rude! All I wanted was a piece of Steve!

Jan 18, 08 - 11:54 am Comment from: deepdish

I would not want to be famous. Can't go to a movie. Can't go shopping. Can't go out to eat with your family. It's not worth it.

Now, some people can be very wealthy and not recognized walking down the street. That appeals to me.

But famous, I might turn into britney and develop multiple personalities.

Apple has brand equity that most marketers would kill for but that equity could evaporate quickly with product missteps. Steve Jobs, while a rock star CEO, has the personality of mafia Don and Apple has done little to work with it's loyal fans to integrate them into the Apple marketing fold. Jobs is known for going off on employees and to this date his "secret feature" of Leopard that never materialized has not been challenged. Yes he does not have time for the little people but in the end the little people may not have time for Apple because staying on top becomes more and more difficult in a cut throat business.

Jan 18, 08 - 11:59 am Comment from: Cubert

I've heard that Steve-O curses like a sailor.

Any confirmation on this?

Also, is it true that he is a fruitarian (subtype of vegetarian)?

Jan 18, 08 - 12:00 pm Comment from: iDon't

It was rude of Steve to call that lady rude. He should have simply smiled and then had his bodyguards beat the crap out of her.

... or it could be companies without any pride that churn out bloated, faulty software like Microsoft & Adobe.

OK, what really, really bugs me in life is what non-Apple companies try to sell me. Yes, I'll touch consumer nirvana once Jobs takes over the world.

@Rich Meyer
"Yes he does not have time for the little people but in the end the little people may not have time for Apple..." Well, as a little person, why not learn a lesson and stay away from your stalking your beloved. Big people have no need to fanny up to him.

Jan 18, 08 - 12:22 pm Comment from: Marian

According to that lady, Jobs didn't actually call her rude. He said "that would be rude".

But what do you expect from Forbes journalists?

Jan 18, 08 - 12:25 pm Comment from: qka

Also, is it true that he is a fruitarian (subtype of vegetarian)?

He's a pescetarian - the only meat he eats is fish. The error has been arisen and been corrected here on MDN before.

As for the Mac Air - speaking from experience as a former road warrior - one battery is enough for many. It was for me

My suggestion: Carry multi-outlet adaptor or extension cord with you so that you can share scarce outlets at the airport (location, not Apple product), etc.

Jan 18, 08 - 12:25 pm Comment from: kenh

Give me a break. I don't buy Steve Jobs personality, I buy the products, and I buy them because they work.

I don't expect to have a personal relationship with him.

I don't get what the fuss is about. Jobs called her rude which is exactly what she is - she writes sex books for a living...

@kenh

Without that personality you would never have had those products...

Respect.

Re: Secret feature of Leopard (at least one)

My guess is the optical drive showing up in Disk Utility without a disk inserted. This wasn't so up to and including Tiger. Leopard disk utility now shows your Mac as having a of minimum two drives - hard disk and optical. Made sense when the Macbook Air was announced - part of what allows you to wirelessly select someones disk drive to use.

I think it's obvious that a non-user replaceable batter is better for the environment. If I have to send my iPod/iPhone/MacBookAir in to Apple for battery replacement, that means Apple has responsibility for disposing of the battery properly, not me (or you). Despite what media-whore environmental groups say, Apple is in a position to recycle/dispose of batteries in ways the average consumer cannot.

So why am I not reading articles congratulating Apple on it's environmentally friendly battery replacement policy?

Jan 18, 08 - 12:32 pm Comment from: Vlad

If he had agree to the picture, the title would be "Jobs poses for photo with sex journalist."

Jan 18, 08 - 12:33 pm Comment from: jjjj

poor Violet Blue - my coochie aches for you. How dare you touch the Steve.

Oh, I forgot. Bloggers are people, too!

Jan 18, 08 - 12:35 pm Comment from: DRM sucks

" 'He told me curtly, flatly that I was rude. And turned his back to me. The small circle of people around him sniggered,' "

Sounds like Steve Jobs. I do not like him for his personality. I am not defending Jobs - it would be nice to politely decline - but am a saying that his personality is not something that bugs me about Apple.

I do hate the kind of mentality that the "small circle around" Jobs exhibited. That is complete douchebaggery.

As a published author who has enjoyed (cursed) a minor degree of celebrity when on tour I can attest to the challenges of being in the public eye even for the small amount I was. Even then I can only imagine what it must be like for SJ.

I do know from my own experience that I am glad my book did not have my photo on it and that I can enjoy relative anonymity away from my organised tours etc. I certainly do not want to be famous on sight and have to deal with all the consequences that such celebrity brings.

If she is a person with publishing connections then she could have probably set up an agreed photo opportunity without the embarrassment of being rebuffed for interjecting SJ on what is probably one of his 10 busiest days of the year.

Of course on the other hand we only have her word that it actually happened anyway.

Jan 18, 08 - 12:46 pm Comment from: Ampar

I can't imagine why Jobs snubbed her.

I myself witnessed how his entourage fends off people at the grand opening of the 5th Ave store.

Jan 18, 08 - 12:47 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

Odd.
Jobs has always been very polite to me.

Maybe cause I'm typically there trying to sell Macs to large institutions, and not get my picture taken.

Jan 18, 08 - 12:55 pm Comment from: HolyMackerel

Violet Blue is a sex-book writer. Anyone with a high profile has to be careful who they get photographed with.

Jan 18, 08 - 01:05 pm Comment from: Macromancer

What bugs Apple fans almost more than anything is when writers who don't understand The mac, Apple or Steve's philosophy make factually incorrect statements.

Jan 18, 08 - 01:06 pm Comment from: alansky

"Lightly touching his arm" is doubly rude! In our society, you don't walk up to someone you don't know and touch them in any way unless they offer to shake hands. Stupid dingbat.

Jan 18, 08 - 01:08 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Who does Jobs think he is? I bet Bill Clinton never treated her that way....

I personally am just plain sick and tired of Jobs the rock star (and by the way buy some new clothes the jeans and black shirt are dated). All companies like to keep marketing and product plans secret and I understand but the level of secrecy there would be impossible for the KGB to penetrate. What keeps me an Apple zealot is their great products and that is ALL. Just like a bimbo..great sex no relationship potential and we leave as soon as they let themselves go.

Jan 18, 08 - 01:45 pm Comment from: Big Al

Rich Meyer,

It's men like you that make life harder for the rest of us.

Jan 18, 08 - 02:07 pm Comment from: Me In LA

Yeah, because so many people here know what it's like to be a celebrity.
Being mobbed and touched without your permission in not cool, and frankly, what was she thinking?
Ever wonder why so many celeb's end up fugged up or die young?
People need to get lives...

The stock market has been punishing pretty much everybody this year, regardless of how well-positioned companies are in their respective business(es).

Yea it's called a post real estate bubble recession.

Somebody around here called that one right, so it's expected to see all stock take a beating, including Apple.

You were warned, pity the fools who didn't listen to his advice.

Jan 18, 08 - 02:22 pm Comment from: Eric

Forbes used to be okay, but these days, they are a crap magazine... Most everyone I know who used to subscribe, stopped.

The reason that Apple stock took a beating is twofold: first the overall economy and tech sector have brought down all tech stocks the second reason is that in reality investors were looking for more. That is the downside of continually surprising people with innivative products. Remember these are MBA's who do nothing but recommend stocks on what they fell is in the short term. I have Apple stock and continue to purchase Apple stock because I know that before the year is out we will see a new iPhone, OSX upgrade (I hope) and possibly a tablet.

Jobs is the driving force behind Apple there is no doubt about that and when he retires Apple stock will take a major hit but I would just like to Apple become a little bit more unclouded in secrecy and Jobs would be more open with the people who have made Apple what it is today.

Jan 18, 08 - 02:40 pm Comment from: Zeke

"Caulfield continues, "Of course, the biggest thing bugging Apple fans--at least those who own the company's stock--might be the performance of its shares this year. After the iPhone was unveiled a year ago, nothing Apple could do this year could top the hype the company kicked off with the hot-selling gadget. As a result, Apple's shares are down nearly 6% this year, as the stock market punishes fast-growing technology companies.""

Down 6%? It seems to me that AAPL was at about $97 this time last year. That's more like 60% UP! What's this guy smoking?

You have to remember that people love to through rocks at Apple because of the stock. Wall Street is not concerned with the long term their motto is "instant gratification takes too long". That being said and after all I have written here Apple is still a great company it's just that they are, as we all are, a little snobish. I mean we can afford to be we are David against the Microsoft beast.

Actually, what bugs me is...
1. People clamoring for rumors and then when Steve-O doesn't dish out that phone/tablet/ipod/newton/itv/headless imac (fill in the blank from the past few years) people get mad and the stock drops.

2. No live streaming of MW! Ahg! What's up with that?! That used to be the lunch hour to live for! (East coast here)

3. People tyring to touch Steve Jobs. Hey! Stop it! You might rub some of the genius off!

"What bugs Apple fans almost more than anything is when writers who don't understand The mac, Apple or Steve's philosophy make factually incorrect statements."

Well if only they had posted anything factually incorrect. But nice try trying to spin it. I am sure MDN applauds you for it.

And dont make me laugh comparing the battery issue with iPods and iPhones. BIG difference between those two devices and a full blown functional notebook. But keep on trying to spin this MDN. Just re enforces your status of being shit.

Jan 18, 08 - 03:14 pm Comment from: Ampar

"You might rub some of the genius off!"

But if you do, be polite, wear soft, sanitary gloves and clean up afterwards.

I'm a Steve Jobs & Apple fan to my core... but if what she said happened then Steve was an a-hole for it. As someone who works with celebrities, I've seen them be gracious with even the rudest fans. It comes with the territory. It's one thing to be an ass to your employees and entirely something else when you're an ass to the fans/customers that buy your products, that make you the billionaire that you are. And if it is an issue of 'if you do one, you have to do them all', then there is still a graceful way of handling that. Perhaps Jobs and his people could use some of the sleekness they put into all their products, into their personalities.

Was at a public performance in Ottawa last week. A major celebrity was in the crowd. Everyone left him alone while he was with his companions, when he was busy getting refreshments, etc..
When he was alone and not busy during intermission, a few people politely approached him for autographs. No-one touched him. No-one interrupted him while he was talking to anyone. Celebrity very politely and pleasantly complied with autograph requests.

See the difference between the event described above, and walking up to SJ busy in conversation, touching his arm to get his attention, and not getting a polite response?

"...Caulfield continues, "Of course, the biggest thing bugging Apple fans--at least those who own the company's stock--might be the performance of its shares this year. ..."

Its the 18th of January for Pete's sake!

Jan 18, 08 - 04:31 pm Comment from: Ampar

A celebrity at a public performance in Ottawa in the dead of winter?

Was this to fulfill a court-ordered community service sentence? (j/k)

Apple Mouse sucks

Jan 18, 08 - 05:30 pm Comment from: Me In LA

@Scarbro:

Washing a celebrity's car doesn't count.
And, you're wrong.
Steve's not a movie star or a rock star (in spite of reports to the contrary) - he's a computer geek/billionaire/CEO.
Hands off the man.
Simple.

What about glossy screens - judging from the whine level on these forums, I think that might be more significant than someone not getting a photo with Steve Jobs.

Jan 18, 08 - 06:37 pm Comment from: LorD1776

T.T.,

"Who does Jobs think he is? I bet Bill Clinton never treated her that way...."

Nope. He gave her a cigar.

Jan 18, 08 - 06:38 pm Comment from: LorD1776

What really bugs Apple's fans is Windows fans.

Jan 18, 08 - 06:47 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

I just want to be an Apple Fellow, get a plaque, and a free MBA.

Jan 18, 08 - 06:58 pm Comment from: iDon't

Now, a pie in Bill Gate's face was funny.

Jan 18, 08 - 09:15 pm Comment from: ken1w

Lame... Very few Apple "fans" will ever see Steve Jobs in person, so that point is irrelevant. If I was Steve Jobs, I wouldn't want random people touching me either.

What makes today's Apple great is that they DO NOT listen to all fans and air-chair CEOs (analysts). That was Apple of the 90's, with five dozen Mac models and configs (plus a few Newton MessagePads), trying to satisfy everyone while slowly going bankrupt. Apple now has razor-sharp focus, amazing profits, and a bright future. True, it doesn't always give me the exact product I want, but that's OK, because it so often exceeds my expectations.

@ Me In LA

LOL! Washing cars... not quite, but that was funny. I guess cuz you're "in LA" you think you're some sort of authority on celebrity. But working at the Foot Locker in the Beverly Center "in LA" doesn't make you an authority on anything but shitty retail wages and stank ass feet.

Celebrity does not exclusively mean movie or rock star. Clearly in this day and age you can be a celebrity for any number of reasons. In fact, if you use your Dashboard Dictionary widget and look up celebrity you'll see that it's definition is simply "the state of being well known". And I think we can agree that Steve Jobs is just that.