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"Macintelatoshes"?

There your WTF for the day.

Come on AAPL. Papa needs a new pair of shoes.... I mean processors.

Yah. Ummm, Apple better have their computers at reasonably competitive prices (+$200 to equivalent Dell) if they expect to make inroads during this MASSIVE opportunity. I wouldn't hold my breath.

I have to wonder how many people reading articles about Macworld are mussing the "Bunny" vs "Intel Bunny" suit distinction...

MDN MW: "Seven"- Hmm, I guess I have my answer =P

Enough with the bunny suit. They makie it sound like the Steve asked him to put on pink footie pajamas and a fake nose with whiskers or something. It's the suit his engineers wear to work everyday. I didn't think it made Paul look stupid or weak and can't figure out why everyone thinks they need to start their article with a reference to it. I"m afraid it's going to make him feel bitter about coopoerating with steve, when he really should just feel bitter about journalists need to start their article with something funny and unrelated to their topic.

" On the other hand, aiding and abetting Apple is a large fifth column of journalists around the globe that are unabashedly Mac-worshippers. You can spot them pretty clearly when they start talking about Windows, they've dropped "poor security" and "bloated" into the conversation by the second sentence."

OK. So when journalist report the facts and tell people that Windows has poor security and is, according to most industry insiders, is bloated, then they are aiding and abetting Apple. So what did it mean when by the second sentence they were all calling Apple beleagered, and had no software, and was too expensive, and too slow and too proprietary?

Read with intelligence people. The rest will take care of itself.

Who put the bop in my bop-shoo-bop-shoo-bop?

Who put the ram in my Mac-in-tel-a-ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong-a-tosh?

This guy's hilarious!

"Macintelatoshes" ? Boy thats catchy.

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what a jester.

iPodosians anyone?

Flawed logic.

The segment of the market that is willing to pay $$ for either a new OS and/or a system to run it are more than likely to stick with Windows.

They have their legacy software and workflows to carry over. And if all your computer needs to run Vista is extra RAM or maybe a better graphics card, then that's a lot cheaper than buying a mac and all-new software. It also means not having to learn new workflows.

Lookit, metric is a simpler, less error-prone, more elegant system than US units, and Esperanto is a simpler impler, less error-prone, more elegant language than English. Dvorak keyboards are simpler, less error-prone, and more elegant than Qwerty keyboards.

And so?

To quote the article:

"...so they might be willing to shell out a little more cash up front and buy the better looking Mac..."

Err...then why hasn't that always been true?

Apple's will be delighted profitably grow its market share a little, and to exploit new markets. The OS war is over, folks. Get over it.

If the comparison between operating systems happens, and I think it will, Apple had better be able to show why OSX is better than Vista.

If that does not happen, then very little will change.

They are going to have to proactively SHOW PEOPLE THE DIFFERENCE.

Whatever it takes.

Be brave, put it out in front of them in specific terms.

Steve, you started this war with OSX and the change to Intel chips.

Now finish it.

There were 4.75 million Macs sold in 2005, not 4 million. But who's counting eh?

Geez, that guy is a dillweed. iPod has already led to more people using Macs and a LOT of the new iPod owners from last year got theirs for the holidays so the new switchers from that batch of iPod sales won't come until this year. I have a ton of friends who got iPods and then got Macs, but also a bunch of other friends w/o iPods, but are getting into Macs because of the heightened profile of the Mac from iPod sales and from other iPod users switching...and some of my friends got Macs because of all the hoopla over Tiger and better security than Windows.

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RE:"The segment of the market that is willing to pay $$ for either a new OS and/or a system to run it are more than likely to stick with Windows"

Everything I read about Vista will mean that those who want to use Vista will have to buy it all; hardware and operating system, plus probably most software.

Agree with Burton, but for different reasons.

Most consumers didn't buy XP out of a box and install it themselves, they bought XP when they upgraded hardware.

They will buy Vista the same way. And the greater choice, lower initial cost and lower fear factor means they'll buy windows boxes.

So what? Who wants to be part of the herd of idiots?

The onslaught is about to begin...

Fasten your seat-belt Maude, we're in for quite a ride!

Well, as for metric almost the whole world uses it, except a 2-3 hundred million Americans. It is like with football - for more than 90 % of the world it is a game where the ball is played with the feet (hence 'foot') and to touch the ball with the hands while it is still in play, is called 'hands' and requires a penalty from the referee.

Am I off-topic?

Oops, couldn't help it:)

Let's just call the new Macs "InteliMac" and be done with it.

Where the hell did he dig up that "Macintelatosh" crap from?? WTF????

I feel kind of sorry for these bitter Mafiasoft fanboys like this so called "journalist".

You better have a good deadbolt lock and shutters in working order when the sham that is Windows Pasta (a.k.a. Stillborn) is finally exposed: There is going to be pandaemonium. gnawing and gnashing of teeth in biblical proportions.

Rock on Steve!

With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
He pulls the spitting high tension wires down

Chipzilla!!!

Helpless people on a subway train
Scream bug-eyed as he looks in on them

Chipzilla!!!

He picks up a bus and he throws it back down
As he wades through the buildings toward the center of town

Chipzilla!!!

Oh no, they say he’s got to go
Go go Chipzilla, yeah
Oh no, there goes microsofto
Go go Chipzilla, yeah

Oh no, they say he’s got to go
Go go Chipzilla, yeah
Oh no, there goes microsofto
Go go Chipzilla, yeah

History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men
Chipzilla!

"...when Windows Vista comes to market sometime this year..."

I'll believe it when I see it.

Theres still one huge factor that he leaves out when people go to make their puchasing decision. They already have all this Windows software. Will it run on a Mac? Therein lies the rub and there you have the real reason behind the Intel switch.

Eliminating this factor is the real motivation.

"They have their legacy software and workflows to carry over. And if all your computer needs to run Vista is extra RAM or maybe a better graphics card, then that's a lot cheaper than buying a mac and all-new software. It also means not having to learn new workflows."

Well, sort of.

For businesses, I agree wholeheartedly. For consumers, who want simplicity, it's easier to buy a new computer with Vista than buy the upgrade, the graphics card, the bigger hard drive(?), and extra RAM and install all of it.

I remember reading somewhere that about a year after Windows XP shipped, Microsoft had sold something like one million upgrades. Most people just bought new computers--much less hassle.

Yeah, Vista will arrive sometime later this year.

December 31, 2006 ... 11:59 pm.

kenh wrote:
"Everything I read about Vista will mean that those who want to use Vista will have to buy it all; hardware and operating system, plus probably most software."

Then people might as well go Mac. APPLE, GET READY TO MAKE YOUR MOVE!

When Vista is greeted with a collective "WTF?!?!", Apple will have a limited time to land a huge number of switchers. Steve, you've done marketing before, but this will have to be your all-time coup. Make it happen.

"And if all your computer needs to run Vista is extra RAM or maybe a better graphics card, then that's a lot cheaper than buying a mac and all-new software."

It's sadly hilarious to be in a PC store, and seeing a sales drone trying to sell a "Vista-ready" PC, or maybe "for Vista" upgrades.

Um, people, VISTA IS VAPORWARE!! Nobody, not even MS, knows when it'll ship or what the final system requirements will be. SO HOW THE F can anyone prepare for it?? <shaking head> At least with Mac you're buying hardware for the real thing.

Secret Transcript from Microsoft HQ:

"G": So when is Vista gonna be ready for release?

"B": It's ready now. Been ready for months.

"G": So when are we gonna release it?

"B": Well, that's a bit of problem.

"G": Why is it a problem? Wouldn't be the first time we released something with problems. Heck, our beta-testers -- I mean customers -- are used to that.

"B": No, this time it's the competition.

"G": Competition? I thought we took care of that.

"B": Well, you remember how you liked to play that cat-and-mouse game with Apple instead of just finishing them off? Well, after 30 years, they've finally come out with a better product that also has the potential to take away some marketshare from us.

"G": Take away marketshare? Them's fightin' words!

"B": That 's the problem. When we release Vista, now that they're running on Intel chips, people will be able to compare their user experience to ours directly -- and we'll look like 20th Century has-beens. We'll start losing marketshare -- and our smartest customers wil be the first to go.

"G": So you're saying that the sooner we release Vista the sooner our marketshare will start declining?

"B": 'Fraid so. I'm so angry I could hurl a chair.

"G": [sighs] OK. Delay Vista -- again -- and release some new virus toolkits to Sony to keep everyone busy until we can rip off some more stuff from Tiger.

"B": Tiger? You know they're working on Leopard, don't you?

"G": Leopard? Where'd you hear about that?

"B": On a video podcast.

"G": Oh, sh--!

You have saved me some typing and phased it much better then I could have done. Please get off this guy's case with the damn suit already. No Commander worth his salt would be ashamed wearing the uniform he sends his troops into the trenches in, he wasn't embarrassed.


/end rant.

I really hope that people don't just buy Macs because they are better looking, even though they are. It just seems liike you should buy one because it will be virus-free. I think it's funny that ista already has viruses and patches and it won't even be out for a year (come on folks, let's be realistic).

@ Will
You might also be aware that Rugby Football was developed at Rugby School for Boys (hence the name)when a young William Webb Ellis picked up the football and ran with it. The game of Rugby is now played all over the world including the US and during the last Grandslam Tour of the Home Countries (England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales) the Mighty All Blacks from little New Zealand kicked all of your proverbial asses of the paddock!

Go Apple.

The Inquirer is a Windows rag.

Having said that, I did write recently, something very similar on some Mac comments site, that Steve's plan is to attact Windows users when the Vista decision comes, and to use all of those iPod profits to his advantage.

So, while I ignore the Inquirer website, it does seem to have some good nuggets from time2time.

Nice homophobic "leather chaps" dig. The author is clearly an asswipe.

So, if it was called a "space suite" or "clean suite" would writers be criticizing Paul Otellini? Keep in mind that CEO Steve Jobs wasn't wearing a suite and tie either.

People are sheep. They'll continue to buy Windows Pasta under the illusion that it'll give them a sense of security when it comes to having their prior apps running. Of course, that's not the only security they should be looking at these days.

My guess is that more than ever before, Apple has a decent chance at grabbing some market share back, but I think it's unlikely it'll ever exceed 15% in say the next 5 years. but it'll be nice when 1/10 of the people you know has a Mac and not a Windoze box. I for one am sick of being an unofficial help desk for many PC weenies who are too tight and ignorant to buy a better machine in the first place.

an additional issue is that most people will not have the option of comparing a Windows box next to an Apple one; not many retailers carry both.

As far as I know, the list is short: Microcenter and
Bestbuy. And both of them suck at selling Apple computers. Are there others?

"People are going to go down to their Big Box store"

Small problem. the vast majority of "Big Box stores" don't carry Macs. Kinda hard to compare when a company like Best Buy has full blow desktops and a a lowly Mac Mini (Which will hopefully be upgraded by then.) Then you have CompUSA's that have Apple resellers tucked into some out of the way corner. Circuit City? Non existent. If Apple wants to sell this fall their need to get off their fat butts and get massive amounts of supplies out there along with advertising the crap out of the Mac on TV. Enough of the fricking iPod. I love my iPod as much as the next guy but this is the year of the Mac damn it! Apple has about a 12-18 month Window here. Once MS starts putting out a service pack or two and starts stabilizing a code base that I'm convinced is going to be much more secure then XP or even 2000 I think the "Its good enough crowd will settle back down into a Windows rutt. I hope and pray for a 7-8% market share by MWSF '07 but I'm not holding my breath.

Don't know about 'going down to their big box stores and compare'...

...here in the UK, the average PC World (viewed last night as it happens!) has a couple of Macs in a corner, switched on but password-protected and not even a screen-saver to view.

Staff still trot out the same anti-Mac s***t they always have, so it's a pointless exercise that actually does the brand down. Anyway, much of the PCW stock looks to be either dated or pricey -- and what's the point in that kind of association?

Best thing is to pull PCW and leave to committed resellers and Apple Stores.

I really believe Vista is going to be business as usual for microsoft, they aren't going to be able to prevent the security risks associated with using Windows, end of story. Also the system may have a spotlight feature and a makeover but it's still got the same basic GUI, which personally im not keen on. I don't think the trust is there any more with microsoft, even with the great unwashed.

I don't know. If the new Apple intel products are not able to adequately run windows legacy programs or emulate the older os's (XP, 2000, 98se, etc), then people will continue to buy dells, etc in a year with the same processors and for a couple of hundred dollars cheaper. They will not want to buy more expensive boxes that do not run the programs that they have already invested in (in the case of business, this could mean thousands of dollars) and have learned how to use.

They will believe the statements of MS spin doctors and brightly shirted uniformed mega store employees who tell them that, while XP and its predecessors were chock full of gaping security holes, Vista has 'new and improved' security features.

They will not want to learn advanced programming or download hacks to make their programs work on Apple machines, or take a substantial performance hit to run them on an emulator.

And Apple will have missed an opportunity to start a true revolution and fundamentally change the world-overnight.

"You can spot them pretty clearly when they start talking about Windows, they've dropped 'poor security' and 'bloated' into the conversation by the second sentence."

That's probably because Windows does have poor security and is extremely bloated.

Gotta love poetic license. Maybe not.

Macintellahamentoshenphonopoddicfoyochippydippyspicyasianchicken!

HAH! Put that in your leather chaps and smoke it. Whatever that means.


P.S. Nice BOC reference, MacDude!

Apple knows their customers, for the most part. They know that the person who buys a mac will generally have: a higher education, higher technology adoption rates, higher access to broadband, actually wants to get work done, etc, etc, etc.

Apple will not be adopted by the general public because Apple is innovating and not continuing to support legacy hardware. No more modems in hardware enclosures, no floppy drives, etc.

I say Apple will max out at 10-15% market share, and that is still huge. Apple just isn't for the average individual . . . only for the individual with technological class.

Shame on Apple for making Intel run those commercials with the disco-dancing bunny suit guys a decade ago.

Huh? Intel decided to do what by themselves...?

[I for one am sick of being an unofficial help desk for many PC weenies who are too tight and ignorant to buy a better machine in the first place.]

nota,

Stop doing that.

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Jay and Replay,

Thanx for seeing, and understanding what you saw.