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Nice analogy in the article.

The difference is that MS doesn't have a "Coke Classic" to fall back on. XP is outdated, old technology that's getting way long in the tooth.

So, at 4.5%, Macs have more than half the 8.8% share of Vista? Sounds hopeful to me.

Jul 31, 08 - 05:36 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

I guess no Mac news means Microsoft bad news in this site

Jul 31, 08 - 05:43 pm Comment from: ken1w

That's an idea for Microsoft. Repackage Windows XP and call it Windows Classic.

Jul 31, 08 - 05:49 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

Honestly, it scares me. It scares me because the media pretty much assassinated VISTA. Yeah, it's got problems, but yeesh. You'd think people's eyes fell out of bloody sockets after using it or something.

It scares me because sooner or later the media is going to turn on Apple. They did it once, they'll do it again and when they do this, it isn't about what's right or wrong or factual reporting, it's about going with the flow, getting eyeballs to the websites, selling magazines, and creating news when there is none.

The media has a herd mentality. You just watch them.

Jul 31, 08 - 05:50 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

Although, ken1w might be on to something...

Windows Classic.

I could see that.

Jul 31, 08 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Botvinnik

Thelonious: Wasn't aware that main stream news media was on Apple's side now.

Are you a well rounded woman who doesn't want to admit having a little extra cushin for the pushin??

Those 8.8% are most likely using Vista b/c their IT department either doesn't know better or is insistent Microsoft "technology" is superior to that of Apple (which would be "doesn't know better")

Those using the 4.5% are not being blindly led by the blind and are making informed choices as to which operating system truly does the best job at the tasks they need them for.

It's human nature to "follow the crowd" if they don't know otherwise, those in the know create their own crowd, and our crowd is growing due to informed choices, not b/c we believe the establishment is superior.

that eighth post was supposed to be "@Majikthize" . . . not by Majikthize . . .

Jul 31, 08 - 06:00 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Wait a minute... I thought that Microsoft was so good at courting Enterprise™? What in the heck is the problem here?!

Jul 31, 08 - 06:02 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"Linux on the desktop has always been a pipe dream."

Thanks, Stallman!!!

Jul 31, 08 - 06:03 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

I liked "new" Coke. Tasted fine to me. Nothing wrong with it.

Running Vista on a Dell at work (that's the enterprise for you pretentious MAC dorks without jobs) and loving every minute of it!

Your potential. Our passion.™

Oh yea, VISTA IS JUST FINE!!!

AS LONG AS YOU KEEP IT IN THE BOX IT CAME FROM!!!

LOL!!

MDN Word "want" I want VISTA like a new hole in my head and a larger iPhone with COPY AND PASTE!!

Jul 31, 08 - 06:49 pm Comment from: Andy

As the saying goes, "Laugh, laugh and laugh some more!"

Microsoft's slow obliteration is a spectacle to behold.

Actually... New Coke was preferred by most people in blind taste tests. It was just a public relations nightmare and the American reluctance to hold onto something they consider a historic icon.

By saying Vista is like New Coke is saying that "Vista is actually better, it's just that people are buying into hype and emotion and don't want to like it."

Jul 31, 08 - 07:10 pm Comment from: shen

"Honestly, it scares me. It scares me because the media pretty much assassinated VISTA. Yeah, it's got problems, but yeesh. You'd think people's eyes fell out of bloody sockets after using it or something.

It scares me because sooner or later the media is going to turn on Apple."

no.

windows has always sucked. this isn't 'turning on', this is bloody well finally 'waking up'!

I remember new coke. i thought it tasted better than classic. oh well

Jul 31, 08 - 07:57 pm Comment from: SirROM

Oaky, it's time to bring up an old favorite I read once:

If you play the Vista Install disc backward, it plays satanic music. What's worse is that if you play it forward, it installs Vista.:-0

Linux lost more share than OS X gained. It looks like total non-Windows share is shrinking (very slightly).

Good, now MS knows how Apple feels. How many Apples are used in business, fark all.

The difference is that MS doesn't have a "Coke Classic" to fall back on.

Another difference is Coke was smart enough to realize disaster, and gave up on their dud.

Coke didn't launch a $300 million marketing bid to "make" New Coke a success...

As a Pepsi drinker let me say this about New Coke. It was a blatant copy of Pepsi, just like Vista copied OS X aqua.

The trouble with Vista is they didn't copy OS X's unix underpinnings. The security protocols baked into Vista and the extra horsepower needed to drive the visuals meant new hardware and new peripherals with broken software and obsolete older peripherals.

In other words no backward compatibility.

A revamped, start over from scratch Windows OS would have suffered the same fate without XP in a virtual machine included in the deal.

WINDOWS CLASSIC

coming soon!!!!!!!


yahooooooooooo

Jul 31, 08 - 10:34 pm Comment from: Arnold Ziffel

My company's 300 POS Dells are running XP and there are no plans to go with Vista.

@SirROM

Either way, you get something satanic.

"of those are Intel-based Macs."

Why do they keep referring to macs that way? Apple doesn't sell any other kind of Mac.

I hated "new" Coke. Tasted bitter to me. Nothing right with it.

Running Vista on a Dell at work (that's the enterprise for the pretentious PC dorks without jobs) and HATING every minute of it!

Your potential. Our Blunder.™

@ Zune Tang "...that's the enterprise for you pretentious MAC dorks without jobs"

Seems to me the dork here is you that doesn't know that MAC refers to Media Access Control address or the unique number of your ethernet card and a Mac which is a computer made by Apple that is preferred by all who have actually tried it.

Aug 01, 08 - 05:08 am Comment from: DD from Belgium

...we are about to move from Win 2000 to XP at work - some 7k machines (wow, quite a step: moving forward to something that is considered stone-age technology - but hey, if you come from the dinosaur-age...).
We'll all be getting new (read: POS) Dells, but at least the IT-ers were smart enough to stay clear from Vista - and they have declared that they're certainly not eying Vista for any foreseeable future.
Guess we'll be sitting out the Vista era, and waiting and praying something better (read: usable) comes along?
(Macs apparently don't even come into scope for reasons I don't understand)

I don't know whether MS will call these 7k machines as 'Vista Sales with the "Windows Classic" option

I'm currently working at a large Government Agency in the UK and we're still using Windows 2000 sp4 with a custom Novell client. This place employs 15,000 people and untill this time last year we were still using Office 97.

They're currently 'testing' vista, but I don't think they want to upgrade to it as it would involve replacing all current hardware to run it.

I've nearly thrown my monitor across the office on several occasions in frustration. I guess thats what comes from an IT department which took 3 WEEKS to give me a login.

I'm kind of resigned about never being able to use a Mac at work. Would be nice though

Another difference is Coke was smart enough to realize disaster, and gave up on their dud.

It took them a while, though. They really fell into Pepsi's trap and acted hysterically during the entire era.

Coke didn't launch a $300 million marketing bid to "make" New Coke a success...

Another great point...

Aug 01, 08 - 10:05 am Comment from: Bluefin

I heard that MS was introducing a new drink:

Midori and New Coke!

You don't know the history of New Coke. I do.

"The difference is that MS doesn't have a "Coke Classic" to fall back on."

Unfortunately you're wrong. For most enterprises XP is good enough. Most know that Office will not look any different or work any better when run under Vista. The fact that one in eleven enterprise PCS now run it show that despite all the negative press, it is being adopted. If you heard one in eleven enterprise systems were running Mac OS X you'd be creaming yourself with excitement.