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Get a Mac: Viruses, spyware cost U.S. consumers $7.8 billion over last two years
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 01:30 PM EST

"Consumers paid as much $7.8 billion over two years to repair or replace computers that got infected with viruses and spyware, a Consumer Reports survey found," Kim Hart reports for The Washington Post.

Hart reports, "That figure was down from a similar survey a year ago. Still, it suggests that people are paying large sums to cope with the flood of malicious viruses and other programs that can slow computers or render them inoperable. 'There is a very high national cost to this,' said Jeff Fox, technology editor of the consumer magazine. 'People think they're invincible, even when this kind of money is involved.'"

"Viruses are the most expensive, with people paying $5.2 billion in 2004 and 2005 to repair or replace afflicted machines, the survey found," Hart reports. "Infections of spyware, a type of software that can track computer users' habits or collect sensitive information about them, declined slightly in the past six months, the survey found. But such infections caused almost 1 million U.S. households to replace their computers, the survey found."

Hart reports, "The Consumer Reports survey of 2,000 households found that 20 percent of respondents didn't have antivirus software and that 35 percent didn't use spyware-blocking software. As the Internet gains more users, it's important to educate them on the security risks, Cole said. The survey results are to be published in the September issue of Consumer Reports."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: If the world was 100% Mac for the last two years, the cost would have been $0 due to viruses and spyware. Good thing you saved $29.67 per laptop by going with Dell, right, Mr. IT Guy? In reality, the Windows mess is really much worse than Consumer Reports' mere $7.8 billion over the last two years figure. According to the FBI, "Viruses, spyware, other computer-related crimes cost U.S. businesses $67.2 billion per year."

It’s really sad that so many people have to be wary about opening email, visiting websites, chatting with presumed “buddies,” or downloading music, photos, movies or other files over the Internet. No one should have to zealously guard their computers against spyware, viruses, trojan horses, or various other types of malware. Or run a bewildering assortment of (quickly obsolete) virus-protection apps. And no one should have to run a computer to a nearby computer store, so it can be “cleaned” on a routine basis. Do you know why people put up with that? If their cars didn’t drive where they wanted to go; their TVs didn’t play what they wanted to watch; or their phones didn’t connect to the party they called, how long would they keep using them?

Apple provides more info online about Mac's lack of viruses here.

By the end of 2005, there were 114,000 known viruses for PCs. In March 2006 alone, there were 850 new threats detected against Windows. Zero for Mac. While no computer connected to the Internet will ever be 100% immune from attack, Mac OS X has helped the Mac keep its clean bill of health with a superior UNIX foundation and security features that go above and beyond the norm for PCs. When you get a Mac, only your enthusiasm is contagious. - Apple's "114,000 viruses? Not on a Mac." webpage.

By the way, before anyone gets any bright ideas: "Security via Obscurity" is a myth. Mac OS X has zero (0) viruses. For over five years and counting. No Mac OS X users affected outside of a lab with old, non-updated Mac OS versions that they intentionally infected.

The idea that Windows' morass of security woes exists because more people use Windows and that Macs have no security problems because less people use Macs, is simply not true. Mac OS X is not more secure than Windows because less people use OS X, making it less of a target. By design, Mac OS X is simply more secure than Windows. Period. For reference and reasons why Mac OS X is more secure than Windows, read The New York Times' David Pogue's mea culpa on the subject of the "Mac Security Via Obscurity" myth here.

Macs account for roughly 10% of the world's personal computer users — (some say as much as 16%) — so the first half of the myth doesn't even stand up to scrutiny. Macs aren't "obscure" at all. Therefore, the Apple Mac platform's ironclad security simply cannot logically be attributed to obscurity.

There are zero-percent (0%) of viruses for the Mac OS X platform that should, logically, have some 10-16% of the world's viruses if platforms' install bases dictate the numbers of viruses. The fact that Mac OS X has zero (0) viruses totally discounts "security via obscurity." There should be at least some Mac OS X viruses. There are none. The reason for this fact is not attributable solely to "obscurity," it's attributable to superior security design.

Still not convinced? Try this one on for size: according to Apple CEO Steve Jobs yesterday at WWDC, there are "19 million Mac OS X users" in the world and there are still zero (0) viruses. According to CNET, the Windows Vista Beta was released "to about 10,000 testers" at the time the first Windows Vista virus arrived. So much for the security via obscurity myth.



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Aug 08, 06 - 12:41 pm Comment from: c

same same

first!

Aug 08, 06 - 12:43 pm Comment from: Fallacious

If Macs didn't have viruses, then everybody would switch to Mac. Everybody hasn't switched to Mac, ergo, everybody hasn't heard that Macs don't have viruses. Yet.

Aug 08, 06 - 12:43 pm Comment from: anaknipedro

first!

This really isn't news anymore.

Aug 08, 06 - 12:44 pm Comment from: anaknipedro

I guess I have to be quicker on the draw.

Aug 08, 06 - 12:50 pm Comment from: clyde

I prefer to think of it as an 'ignorance tax'...

Aug 08, 06 - 12:57 pm Comment from: Mac7

Ingorance is an expensive thing!

Or shall we say Lemmings?

Aug 08, 06 - 01:00 pm Comment from: JadisOne

Sue Microsoft to get some of that money back. grin

Aug 08, 06 - 01:09 pm Comment from: No Kool Aid here

Viruses don't kill computers. People kill computers.

Aug 08, 06 - 01:10 pm Comment from: justme2

I still love that commercial...

And I think the PC guy is kinda cute, in a nerdy sort of way...maybe I just think I'm the one to "convert" him... wink

MW=Last!!!

Aug 08, 06 - 01:16 pm Comment from: Fanatic Realist

Well this just can't be true, because there was a Windell fan-boy posting here a few weeks ago who quite clearly said that Windows users had the virus problems licked and anyone with a modicum of intelligence could do the same.

Presumably, if this story was true, that means that a) he's a know-nothing bozo and b) that many Windows users - in the USA at least – have the brains of a McDonald's Salad.

Also, surely domestic Windows users in the US wouldn't be so stupid as to allow 26 million spyware attacks and 47 million virus attacks whilst spending $7.8 billion, a figure which averages out to around $26 for every man, woman and child in the US.

And who are the 2.4 million domestic computer users who connect to the Net through broadband, but don't use a firewall?

Seriously, you don't have to be stupid to choose Windows - but it certainly seems to help.

Aug 08, 06 - 01:22 pm Comment from: Microsoft Executive

These news just confirm what I have been saying all along. WE know what human type is more common in the IT world hence our target.

We need to do less, we can charge more, we have even higher profit.

There is always someone dumber around you: sell to them and get rich.
Jobs never got this. He always talk to people like they have a brain. We talk to people like they have a wallet and know nothing about keeping dollars there. They happily go to our wallets.

Get a clue, why do you think we are going to charge for malware protection? Because our customer target allows us to do so. Plain simple.

Aug 08, 06 - 01:57 pm Comment from: BrooklynNYC

Well this just can't be true, because there was a Windell fan-boy posting here a few weeks ago who quite clearly said that Windows users had the virus problems licked and anyone with a modicum of intelligence could do the same.

I guess he/she figures that Symantec and McAfee are the solutions to the problems.

Aug 08, 06 - 02:08 pm Comment from: Concerned

Once again this site is displaying its niavity caused by pure arrogance and making our community look like a bunch of cult followers. Computer viruses are just like viruses that affect living things. They target hosts that will allow them to live longer. If "the world was 100% Macs for the last 2 years" Windows viruses would not live a life at all and would search for a more suitable host. Guaranteed the Mac would have its share of viruses. Lets show the PC community that we really do understand the issues and that the The Mac platform can and will have viruses written for it as soon as it reaches a point in the marketplace where it makes sense for it to be targeted.

Aug 08, 06 - 02:11 pm Comment from: iPhone comes out next week as well as new ipod.

i know this for a fact, its not a guess.

Aug 08, 06 - 02:24 pm Comment from: BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

Concerned, you are a complete and utter moron. Viruses that target computers are not "just like viruses that affect living things". Viruses that target computers are DESIGNED to key off of known security holes in Windows. There is no adaptation taking place. There is no mutation. There is no "seeking a new host" going on. If you take these viruses away from Windows, they cannot spread.

Look, if you're going to talk about viruses, at least know what the freak you're talking about, ok?

Aug 08, 06 - 02:43 pm Comment from: Ampar

Right, Concerned. The CDC has an entire wing of carefully screened robot researchers wearing biohazard suits looking for living computer code mutations too.

cool smirk

Aug 08, 06 - 03:13 pm Comment from: Big Al

They're right Concerned.

You really are an idiot.

Windows Computers are exploited by virus writers for financial gain. Their code will not work on a Mac.

Mac's could get similar viruses, if the virus writer was familiar with Unix programing and OS X programing. This potential hacker would then have to find an unpatched Unix or OS X vulnerability to exploit. The hacker would then have to find a way to propogate that virus.

He would probably have to make the virus with Universal binaries to get all Intel & PPC Macs and perhaps even multiplatform, either Linux or Windows as well, to get the needed installed base for good propagation.

What a nightmare! Much easier just to get a Windows virus cookbook from a hacker site and nail Windows once again.

Aug 08, 06 - 03:18 pm Comment from: Not Me

Those 1 million households that had to replace computers...are counted as new Window computers, but is anyone subtracting the lost units? No wonder some say the PC market is growing at a fast pace then the Mac market. mad

Aug 08, 06 - 03:23 pm Comment from: Raymond from DC

I agree with MDN's take - Consumer Report's estimate of the cost is woefully conservative. The FBI estimate is probably closer to the truth. My one agency alone spends millions yearly on anti-virus software licensing and IT support costs. We lose productivity every time we have to bring systems down to be sanitized, and we lose productivity due to the simple fact that there are all these processes running in the background trying to "protect" the system. Once systems are infested with spyware we often have to completely rebuild a system from scratch - hours more productivity lost. It's all part of the hidden cost of running Windows.

Aug 08, 06 - 03:29 pm Comment from: Beryllium

Apple's web page concerning PC viruses states "The Mac web browser, Safari, can tell the difference between a file and a program, and alerts you whenever you’re downloading the latter."

Not my copy of Safari. I just downloaded a copy of iSay and Safari never uttered so much as a peep of warning. Does this happen to any one else? I could not find any preferences setting that would switch this protection on or off.

Aug 08, 06 - 03:56 pm Comment from: Oh my...

Computer viruses are just like viruses that affect living things. They target hosts that will allow them to live longer.

You truly must be a Winblower to be so frigging ignorant and idiotic.

AHHOEHUHAHAHHAOHUEHHUOHAHAHAHAHAH

Cabrones y Coyones, a virus is a computer program, and in the real world a COMPUTER PROGRAM that RUNS ON WINDOWS.

Not different from one of your idiotic games you put on your toy PC. Can you load and install on a Mac, IDIOT?

Are all like this Windows users? What's your name doobie? McFly?

Aug 08, 06 - 03:58 pm Comment from: My Safari does...

If the downloaded file is a program it warns "This could contain a program..."

Aug 08, 06 - 05:57 pm Comment from: Eric24601

in Safari's preferences setting, uncheck the option that says "Open Safe Files After Downloading".

Aug 09, 06 - 05:03 am Comment from: Jim

Concerned, I'm very concerned that you have been given a labotomy and are unaware of it.

MW: single. Not a single brain cell in your head, poor Concerned.

Aug 09, 06 - 06:57 am Comment from: To Concerned

Windows viruses would not live a life at all and would search for a more suitable host. Guaranteed the Mac would have its share of viruses. Lets show the PC community that we really do understand the issues

I will not get into commenting your adamantly moronic post. Not to say naive and ignorant.

It seems clear to us in this site that you have to be a Windows user. Only Windows users are so frigging ignorant about all malware to believe to the market share reasoning about the absence of those on Mac OS X or such level of ignorance as to believe computer virus mutate and choose the platform to thrive.

Lobster, a virus is a computer program written to exploit security faults of an operating system. Writers attack the easier target and the one that easily gives them spreading: that's Windows your you.

You just confirmed once again that the PC community is truly made for the most by people who are arrogant, ignorant, know nothing about the Mac and nothing even more about anything computers. You just bend over and accept what others tell you to get without having a freaking faint germ of an idea whether something better - and today even CHEAPER - exists elsewhere.

You clearly showed us that PC users do not understand AT ALL the issues.

Now crawl back under the rock where you live and SHUT THE FUCK UP, MORON.

Oct 12, 06 - 03:02 pm Comment from: sev head

my mac has a virus amd its really gay
keep it really nerds

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