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Jul 06, 09 - 02:38 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

Clean sheet of paper, that's what Nokia needs.

Jul 06, 09 - 02:44 pm Comment from: @davebroham

goodness...<understatement>that was a harsh review</understatement>

Jul 06, 09 - 02:51 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

Imagine a 50% world market share. Now imagine knowing you can do nothing to save yourself.

"What this situation absolutely requires is a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."

Bluto: "We're just the guys to do it."

Jul 06, 09 - 03:05 pm Comment from: silverwarloc

@Anonymous:

I think you meant a clean sheet of TOILET paper.

Jul 06, 09 - 03:16 pm Comment from: _Bill_

I think this is the future: One day (soon?), having a non-smart phone will be like having dial-up.

Jul 06, 09 - 03:18 pm Comment from: MacMan

Sounds like Palm some 7 or 8 years ago. They, too, had a huge market share for PDAs and let it go to waste.

Reminds of the computer on the Heart of Gold ("Hitchiker's Guide the Galaxy"): 49% and falling...

Jul 06, 09 - 03:27 pm Comment from: mike_in_helsinki

Its a common refrain ... Nokia is #1 in mobile phones in the world.

99% of Nokia employees, analysts, and tech journalist believe that with all their heart. Why not, they do have a 37% or so market share, right?

Who cares?

Nokia, as with Microsoft, is stuck in the world of producing phones to the bottom feeders ... price hunters. They sell phones, and fail at selling mobile computers. They are saddled with Symbian OS, like a ball and chain. They are living in the '90s, with '90s marketing, a '90s OS, and '90s approach to doing business.

Its a loser.

Apple does not want 70% of Nokia's customers, now or ever, just like it does not want 70% of Microsofts customers. They are not worth chasing and killing your corporate culture for. They won't make you successful.

Apple now captures a wild percentage of the entirety of mobile phone profits in the industry with its miniscule market share. Nokia has no other business they are diversified in nor anything that gives them synergies. Apple has their computer business, their music business, their movie business, and their software business.

Nokia has none of this. They sell commodity devices with razor thin margins. They also foolishly teamed up with Microsoft on so many ventures they finally woke up and found it was all a huge waste of time, all the while Apple disrupting them.

They never knew what hit them.

Nokia is firing people as fast as it can now ... they cannot afford them. App developers are ignoring them. And Ovi is an unmitigated disaster.

Good luck.

Jul 06, 09 - 03:46 pm Comment from: ecrabb

mike_in_helsinki - Excellent points and great post. Spot on.

Jul 06, 09 - 03:57 pm Comment from: iPhoner

" ... a steaming pile of suck on a slab of garbage toast ... "

I don't carry who you are, that's funny right there.

Can't believe I just quoted the cable guy. My bad.

Jul 06, 09 - 04:17 pm Comment from: LTD*

You've got a garbage OS (Symbian) that runs on a mish-mash of devices.

Not a recipe for success. They seem to be a lot like Microsoft: coasting on their market share and relying on wide licensing to move product, instead of actually coming up with something truly compelling.

Jul 06, 09 - 05:59 pm Comment from: cartoonasaur

Please pass the mish mash, Nokia's enjoying a delicious meal of humble pie and bitter dregs! LOL

Jul 07, 09 - 12:48 am Comment from: BlackWolf

I used to love and adore Nokia for their sturdy build, usefull apps(calander, todo, fm radio, games) and decent price.

Then I bought my iPhone 1st Gen 2 years ago and found out what q real phone should be like.

My eyes have been opened.

Jul 07, 09 - 05:18 am Comment from: twilightmoon

Nokia makes excellent stone chisels and obsidian tablets, and they just discovered fire.

Meanwhile in the real world, Apple is gobbling up the entire smartphone market, rapidly.

Nokia and Apple are not only not in the same market, they are not in the same world. Nokia will continue to sell nearly profitless dumbphones, but they are toast in the real market, smartphone computers.

They will likely be in business in 5 or 10 years, but a fraction of their employee size. I expect they will continue to command a healthy percent of the total phone market by hanging on to cheap throw away dumb phones, but they will never see big fat profits in the billions per quarter again. Ever.

They are not toast, but they are completely irrelevant to the future of where the cell phone market is headed.