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Gizmodo reviews WinMo 6.5: ‘There’s no excuse for this’; Ballmer: ‘We’re neck and neck with Apple’
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 02:00 PM EDT

"I really didn't want to beat up on WinMo here, because at this point it just feels tired. But man, come on Microsoft, you're giving me no choice. Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't just a letdown—it barely seems done," John Herrman reports for Gizmodo.

"It's nowhere near the upgrade that Windows Mobile needs to be even remotely interesting," Herrman reports. "It's a superficial update, and not a very thorough one. It's an interim product, and a vain attempt to hold onto the thinning ranks people who still choose Windows Mobile despite not being somehow tethered to it until the tardy Windows Mobile 7 comes out, whenever that may be. And it won't work."

Herrman reports, "It doesn't really feel like a redesign—it feels like someone went through 6.1 and adjusted a few values. Add a few pixels of menu spacing here, some plasticky highlight graphics there, and BOOM. 6.5. Let's go to lunch."

"The confusingly-named Mobile Internet Explorer 6 is to Mobile IE 5 what IE 7 was to IE6 on the desktop. Get that? This is to say it's a massive upgrade, but like IE7, which added tabs and popup blocking about two years after everyone else had it, Mobile IE6 is at least a generation behind its competitors," Herrman reports. "Microsoft isn't really advertising the SUPER SPEED of Windows Mobile 6.5, which makes sense: 6.5 is based on the same underlying Windows CE version (5.2) as 6.1, and even 6.0. In other words, its guts are oooold."

There's much more in the full review here.

Bill Rigby reports for reuters, "Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer played down recent industry talk that the company was developing its own smartphone. 'We are not here to announce today that we are making phones,' he said at an event in Paris."

"The market for phones is set to treble or quadruple in the next few years, Ballmer said, and Microsoft is ready to challenge other phone makers for market share," Rigby reports. "He added that Windows Mobile's share of the mobile phone market is equal to Apple's. 'We and Apple are and we're chasing the two other players,' said Ballmer, referring to Nokia, the world's No. 1 smartphone maker, and Research in Motion."

Rigby reports, "Microsoft also announced a new online application store, where users can buy 246 applications for their phones."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Steve Ballmer is batshit insane.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "GizmoDan" for the heads up.]

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Oct 06, 09 - 02:05 pm Comment from: Mike

...for a long as it takes."

Oct 06, 09 - 02:13 pm Comment from: Apple Pi

Unfortunately people feel safe with Windows because it's all they know. It will sell phones... Now how many is the big question.

Oct 06, 09 - 02:19 pm Comment from: Cascadians

That picture ~ couldn't be real?

Oct 06, 09 - 02:22 pm Comment from: Peter J

Isn't this the guy who laughed at Apple coming into the mobile market? Wasn't he going on about how WinMo's been around for a long time and is on a ton of phones and that Apple will at most be a niche player?

So now he's saying Windoze and Apple are neck and neck and chasing the top two? In a couple of years Apple has gone from nothing to #3 in the mobile market and are chasing the two leaders and Ballmer just sees it as, what, healthy competition?

WinMo...fail! Just admit it.

Oct 06, 09 - 02:23 pm Comment from: Original Jake

@Apple Pi,
Well, it hasn't been working over the last year! WinMo's share of the mobile smartphone OS market has been dropping like a rock, now to a point below Apple's share (despite what their delusional CEO claims).

Oct 06, 09 - 02:24 pm Comment from: Beowulf

WinMobile marketshare is equal to Apple's in what world Ballmer?

Oct 06, 09 - 02:29 pm Comment from: Nathan

Perfect MDN take.

Oct 06, 09 - 02:30 pm Comment from: Me In LA

Batshit insane?
OMG, ROFLMAO!

Oct 06, 09 - 02:31 pm Comment from: iQuack

Too bad he looks like my favorite TV Personality, Uncle Fester!

Oct 06, 09 - 02:37 pm Comment from: macman

Too much laughter for today. MDN you're too much!

Oct 06, 09 - 02:39 pm Comment from: Demon

From above: "Rigby reports, "Microsoft also announced a new online application store, where users can buy 246 applications for their phones.""

"Microsoft opens Windows Mobile app store packed chock full of 34 whole apps" , from yesterday.

Looks like someone is in wishful thinking mode (or Ballmer GasLight Mode)! by 212 Apps!

Talk about a pump and dump for WinMo Customers..

Oct 06, 09 - 02:40 pm Comment from: dd

U - G - L - Y you ain't got no alibi, you're ugly... winmo 6.5

Oct 06, 09 - 02:44 pm Comment from: PR

Dear Lord

Please protect Steve Ballmer's health and let him keep his job.
Please keep the Microsoft board of directors as oblivious as possible to his utter stupidity and cluelessness. It is helping my Apple stock immensely and I promise to donate more to charitable causes from my massive profits.

Amen

Oct 06, 09 - 02:46 pm Comment from: Macaday

Microsoft aren't going to be able to pay bloggers to say anything good about this...

Ballmer is heading for a nervous breakdown if you ask me.. followed by early retirement.

Oct 06, 09 - 02:51 pm Comment from: me

PR u rock!!!

Oct 06, 09 - 02:56 pm Comment from: Nick Mac

WinMo fail that should be the Microflop catch phrase. I along with the majority of MDN readers, don't have to deal with substandard upgrades. Why? Because we are smart enough to know everything Apple is better. Did I mention everything? If you realy feel the other guys are better, you deserve what you get. Or don't get. Funny I made myself laugh.

Oct 06, 09 - 02:59 pm Comment from: Demon

I still think that Microsoft needs to change the Change Name of Windows Mobile. Naming in honor of the CEO is not a bad choice. And after all you could have a much worse name like Windows, Zune, Vista or CE. Let's face it! Fart Mo! just works. And, after the failure that all Windows Mobile Versions are up to this point it's the perfect way to shit the focus and squirt customer attention away from the failure that Microsoft's Mobile OS is.
The Perfect advertising campaign: Get your gas on and break a breeze with a HTC Smart Phone that a the shit! Runs Microsoft's Fart Mo OS, featuring Microsoft's Mobile Application Market Place with 34 applications and higher priced then any other mobile phone application market price. Pay more and get less.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:03 pm Comment from: Nashgul

"Neck and neck", as in;

they are waaaaaaaay ahead, and we are trying our very best to copy along !! (but pleaze, slow down!)

Oct 06, 09 - 03:09 pm Comment from: HolyMackerel

Microsoft always gets it right with version 3.0 - no wait, they only did that once...

Oct 06, 09 - 03:10 pm Comment from: Ogre

While I would love to rag on Ballmer, unfortunately at least in the US smartphone market he's technically accurate.

comScore reports that in July-09

Windows Mobile: 6.65M users
Apple iPhone: 6.63M users

What Ballmer isn't mentioning is that this is a 5% drop in the last 6 months for Windows Mobile, and a 15% increase for iPhone.

So yes, they are neck-and-neck, but going in two very different directions.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:17 pm Comment from: SirROM

@Macaday

"Microsoft aren't going to be able to pay bloggers to say anything good about this..."

---------

The FTC just changed the rules this week that forces reviewers to admit any paid or free service connections to the product or company they are "reviewing".

Sounds like this may impact bloggers at some point as well (if they are getting paid).

Oct 06, 09 - 03:24 pm Comment from: silverhawk

Nokia sells lots of phones. Too bad their revenue is in the dumps. RIM has their own 2 for 1 problems. The MacBU at M$ needs to develop a WebOS version for us on WinMo phones. That way Apple can save M$.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:26 pm Comment from: Brau

I wouldn't be surprised if Windows Mobile 7 included mobile AV software. It may even cause it to drag to a crawl, but it won't matter. They'll just tell the Windows-using sheep that it makes it more secure and compatible with their already buggy PCs. They'll assert having an IT person to keep it running is just part of being a "responsible user". The sheep will believe what they're told.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:27 pm Comment from: silverhawk

"use" not "us." Nap time.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:36 pm Comment from: Geoff Taylor

"Apple's iPhone held onto a 13.7% share of global smartphone unit sales in the second quarter, outpacing Microsoft's Windows Mobile, which now claims just 9% of the market, according to Canalys." Appleinsider's Prince McLean reported on Friday, August 21, 2009, in an article called "Canalys: iPhone outsold all Windows Mobile phones in Q2 2009"
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/08/21/canalys_iphone_outsold_all_windows_mobile_phones_in_q2_2009.html

Oct 06, 09 - 03:37 pm Comment from: jackspratt

MDN Take == coffee spit-take. oh my god that was succinct and hilarious.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:39 pm Comment from: Gabriel

@ PR - AMEN!

Oct 06, 09 - 03:44 pm Comment from: MacAdvocate

The most surprising - and amusing - thing about this review is that Gizmodo was fast becoming Microsoft's press darling, being treated to "exclusive" sneak peaks of M$ projects like their retail outlet plans and their vaporware Courier tablet. They even gave some staffers tours of their campus. I was concerned that Giz was starting to turn, but I guess John Herrman hasn't. He absolutely (and rightfully) skewers 6.5 in a way I see reserved for rubber dog crap export products. LOL at your press strategy, Redmond. Maybe get John in on the next tour of products you have no intent to actually release?

My faith in the site is at least partially restored. Thank you, John Herrman.

Oct 06, 09 - 03:55 pm Comment from: Gabriel

Another gem from the article:

To put it another way, handset manufacturers have done more in the last two years to improve Windows Mobile than Microsoft has, which borders on pathetic.

It doesn't just "border on" pathetic - it's the capitol city of Pathetic Nation.

Oh, and you just have to love the comments there from the poor Windows Evangelists, trying to sell this piece of crap - in particular, "CulverSnass" (or is that "Culver's an ass"?) clearly goes through a list of WinMo talking points. Sorry, dude, but fewer and fewer people are buying the crap you're selling.

Oct 06, 09 - 04:15 pm Comment from: Predrag

Market share numbers tend to differ depending on what stats are being reported. Quarterly sales share clearly belongs to Apple, as MS is selling a lot fewer mobile OS licenses than Apple is selling iPhones. However, if you compare cumulative sales, where Apple has been selling for little over 2 years, and MS for more than 10, they may be running neck-and-neck at this point. Considering the current trends, where iPhone continues to outsell WinMob by larger and larger margins, the neck-and-neck cumulative market share will soon be not so close anymore.

Besides, Ballmer is a salesman. In fact, he talks exactly like a used car salesman -- distorting the truth to the breaking point, in order to sell turd for gold to an unsuspecting sap.

Oct 06, 09 - 04:15 pm Comment from: Quad Core

What Ballmer doesn't mention is that Apple has gotten that market share while selling only one phone that is available on only one network (in the US).

Oct 06, 09 - 04:30 pm Comment from: Mormegil

I think he meant to say "Apple is standing on our neck" wink

Oct 06, 09 - 04:35 pm Comment from: Dave H

And of course Ballmer suddenly switches to talking about US rather than his usual global talk, conveniently forgetting to mention that worldwide the WinMo brand is just gone. Nobody uses it anymore, for example the only smartphones you see in the UK are iPhones and Blackberrys. Same with continental Europe. There simply is no WinMo presence.

Microsoft are beginning to crumble and Ballmer knows it. That's fear you read in his words.

Oct 06, 09 - 04:37 pm Comment from: Dave H

Oh and BTW, there is now only $54bn of difference between AAPL and MSFT market cap. That gap just keeps getting smaller doesn't it?

Oct 06, 09 - 05:53 pm Comment from: TheConfuzed1

Best. MDN. Take. Ever. smile

Oct 06, 09 - 09:32 pm Comment from: pablo

I think Ballmer made a "rounding error" somewhere.

Oct 06, 09 - 10:02 pm Comment from: drmac

Neck and neck with Apple as Microsoft falls and Apple rises. Great analysis MDN, Ballmer is delusional. Soon we will be neck and neck in operating systems and he will think it's great.

He must be a twin because no one person can be that stupid.

Oct 07, 09 - 12:38 am Comment from: bobo

10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag. Get back in the basment uncle fester!

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