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Gizmodo’s first look at Apple’s Time Capsule: Worthwhile, convenient, clean and easy
Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 10:43 AM EST

Apple Online Store"We've been fiddling with Time Capsule since it arrived this AM, and so far it works as billed, clean and easy. The star of the show is really the new AirPort Utility software, which now comes with some neat tricks for the network-phobic. Most of all, we're learning the ins and outs of adding external drives, using networked printers, and setting up that potentially [huge and time-consuming] initial data dump," Wilson Rothman reports for Gizmodo.

"We've actually set up the Time Capsule several different ways already, as the only router in the network, and as an Ethernet-linked node on an existing wireless network. The start-up wizard in AirPort Utility asks you plainly what you want to do, in increasing steps like a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure book. I know some of you don't need that kind of child's play, but this kind of thing will even help you when you tell your mom to get one of these and realize you won't have to do tech support too," Rothman reports.

"We will continue to test... but in the meantime it's safe to say that this is a worthwhile product for people who have the money and want the convenience. How often do you refuse to connect the USB to your backup drive because it would hamper your style? How often are you afraid, after a long period of not backing up, of the time it may take you to perform a backup. Those issues go away with Time Capsule," Rothman reports.

"But there's a cost, particularly at the 1TB model, which is $200 more than the $300 500GB model. When we ask about this, all we get back is that these are 'server grade' drives. Great, thanks, but we're gonna recommend the 500GB version. If you have 300GB of backup or less you're covered, and if you have 1TB of backup or more, you're better off scoring some massive drive or drive array at discount, and plugging it in via USB," Rothman reports.

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Mar 01, 08 - 11:13 am Comment from: Slevin

Had to search NYC for a Time Capsule neither the 5th ave, Soho or West 14th Street Apple stores had any time capsules in stock as of 3:30 PM. So I decided to call one out on long island and when I got there I got the very last 1TB time capsule in stock.

Let me say it is awesome to use, I just wish I had a newer MBP with the N wireless instead of the G wireless. My first sync took a few hours because of the huge amount of material to sync so I did it via ethernet. Afterwards I disconnected the ethernet and it is working like a charm. No problems or hiccups, I just wished I could have transfered my old time machine backup to the time capsule but I guess this will have to do.

I got the time capsule so I could cut down on the wires behind my desk for an external HD for my previous time machine, a hub to connect the external and another device and the various power cords. Now I just mount the Time Capsule under the desk two wires for the ethernet and power and I'm golden. I just wish it supported air tunes then I could get rid of my airport express.

I rate it top notch.

Mar 01, 08 - 11:15 am Comment from: silverhawk

So you can use this as your router? I had heard you needed a base station as Time Capsule's radio was receive only. This does make it appealing, too bad I bought 500G backup in November. Drats.

Mar 01, 08 - 11:15 am Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

...if you have 1TB of backup or more, you're better off scoring some massive drive or drive array at discount, and plugging it in via USB

What Mac user in their right frigging mind backs up 1TB over slow ass hell USB?

Score that Firewire 800 baby in a RAID 0 external enclosure...ZOOOMMM!!

By the way, I miss the old Firewire iPods, they loaded SO FAST...So why couldn't the new iPods be both Firewire AND USB compatible?

This way us Mac users would have a advantage and encourage a PC user to switch for the faster interface?

Apple disappoints me sometimes....

Mar 01, 08 - 11:24 am Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

And before some wiseass tells me that wireless is going to be the new Firewire 800.

Let me tell you this from a US ARMY trained Electronic Warfare Specialist,

Wireless is INSECURE. Period!!

I don't care how much you encrypt it, the wireless signals are snooped on and decoded.

Even signals passing through wires can be snooped on, but it's much harder to do. Requiring entry into the room to set a tap on the line just about.

But you got nothing to hide right?

Plus try booting over wireless when your boot drive fails and your under deadline.

Hehehe. Apple is making their computers more insecure by the day.

EFI, iPhone backroom deals with Cisco and AT&T;(of NSA fame) and now wireless backups. Oh yea, I forgot about Leopard bypassing OS X firewalls too.

Slipping that old Trusted Computing mentality right on us.

With Trusted Computing, they decide what trust you have, instead of you having the ability to decide who to trust.

They decided they don't trust you. Thus they want complete control over your machine which you paid for.

You'll see, papers please.

Mar 01, 08 - 11:36 am Comment from: DogGone

@mad mac

Keep taking the pills.

It is interesting that an external hard drive can be used to back up. Hopefully they upgrade the system over time to allow disk spanning, so that as you back up needs increase you can simply add on more drives.

Mar 01, 08 - 11:40 am Comment from: ericdano

So, um, when is my Airport Extreme going to get a firmware upgrade to support Time Machine? Hmm? HMM?

Mar 01, 08 - 11:41 am Comment from: blucaso

Go off your meds much, Mad Mac?

• Apple is STILL not using Trusted Computing to interfere in any way in its products. Perhaps you're thinking of Windows.

• iPhone "backroom deals"? WTF? Apple signed a well-known front room deal with AT&T;(of NSA fame) - I mean, somebody has to carry the signal, right? What did you expect them to do?

• Oh, and wireless backups too. If you have so much concern over someone snooping around your life, then DON'T USE IT. Turn your Airport off, and you're fine.

When Apple starts including secret codes that the NSA can use to take over your computer and search your drive, or starts allowing Airport to broadcast signals to law enforcement when you download "illegal" content, you can start telling me you're justifiable paranoid.

As it is, Apple continues to use technology to make things convenient for the average user. It has nothing to do with who trusts whom.

Are some technologies inherently more insecure? Sure. Are some loopholes going to be found that high end government and private espionage agents could use to snoop on you? Sure. Is this by design? No.

The point of the AT&T;NSA situation to me is that it was leaked, that it was a huge media fiasco, giving the government and AT&T;a black eye, and that it made people wary. As long as these things continue to become public, I feel more confident that our system will retain enough checks and balances to keep things in line. Sure, it's never perfect, but I haven't seen any black helicopters overhead, or had any of my neighbors disappear in the night.

And no one's asking for my papers, although they do ask for my drivers license just to buy a box of Sudafed.. raspberry

But please, save your fanatical ravings for a more appropriate web forum.

Mar 01, 08 - 11:56 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

The 500Gb model and an external drive make a lot of sense. the price is excellent. Although, having a one-box terabyte drive is certainly compelling.

I sure wish Apple had included a FireWire port next to the USB 2... for those of us who know better than to use USB 2 for hard drives.

Mar 01, 08 - 12:02 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

PILLS HELL!!

1: EFI is a pre boot firmware level that has the ability to connect to the internet, read and write to hard drives and incept calls to hardware from the OS.

The shell can be used to execute other EFI applications, such as setup, OS install, diagnostic or configuration utilities, and system flash updates; it can also be used to play CDs or DVDs without having to boot to a complete operating system, provided that an EFI application with the appropriate features is written. Shell commands also make it possible to copy or move files and directories between supported file systems. Drivers can be loaded and unloaded, and a complete TCP/IP stack can also be used from within the shell. Wikipedia

Have any idea what's in YOUR EFI?

2: Cisco - Remember the "deal" Apple made between Cisco over the name "iPhone?". Cisco had no intention of releasing a iPhone, they just sat on the name because they wanted to do a deal with Apple that involved the NSA.

Cisco is notorious for providing the routers the internet backbone relies upon and the backdoors hackers found the NSA uses to tap into the internet backbone.

Why does the NSA want "in" on the iPhone? A highly potential source of valuable personal information. People store all sorts of stuff on a iPhone and it has no privacy what so ever.

(Xerox also plays ball with the NSA and makes nearly invisible little yellow dots on all xerox copies so they can track.)

3: AT&T;. A well known and public issue about backroom tapping of people's phone calls and the internet. Cross tracing of telephone calls.

Heck they even tell you every month on your statement who called you and who you called. How brazen of a privacy violation is that?

You see what's going on here? Apple used to be about the customer. Safe and secure computing that you could trust.

But Apple has teamed up with the evil corporations who play ball with the government to violate your right to privacy.

Open your eyes. Open your minds.

Connect the dots. Reason why they would develop and are doing things like they are.

You have no privacy anymore. You are being monitored.

Mar 01, 08 - 12:03 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

@ silverhawk... the coolest thing about Time Capsule is that is IS an Airport Extreme with 'N' wireless and gigabit ethernet built-in.

I'm thinking of craigslisting my "old" Airport Extreme and getting one. Of course I bought the first "new" AE (10/100 ethernet) a few weeks before they upgraded it with gigabit (10/100/1000).

Oh well the price of technology...

Mar 01, 08 - 12:13 pm Comment from: RWS

Has anyone here used one yet? How "loud" is it? I hate loud drive. I have several LaCie drives and some are less noisy than others.

Is there a way to move an existing time machine backup to the new drive?

Mar 01, 08 - 12:17 pm Comment from: Woody

@Silverhawk, Apple says, "Time Capsule is also a full-featured 802.11n Wi-Fi base station" on the Time Capsule Page. So, it obviously isn't receive-only, which would be the most bone-headed thing evar. (There are technical reasons why, even if its only receiving data for backup, that the communication has to be two-way).

I guess we can expect Micros**t's version to be receive only, then.

Mar 01, 08 - 12:32 pm Comment from: Woody

@ Mad Mac Maniac: I'm connecting the invisible yellow dots, all right. BTW, Xerox isn't the only one playing that game. Every color laser manufacturer is doing it. I'm sure you've seen the <a href="http://www.eff.org/issues/printers"> on that. (I even sent them pages from our Canon iR C3380i as another example.)

Re: EFI... what was so different about Open Firmware in the old PPC Macs? It was written in and had a live Fortran interpreter (oh, and telnet, too), so conceivably could be programmed to do all sorts of nefarious stuff too. What, since no currently produced Macs use it, it's not worth your time? What about all the extant Macs with Open Firmware? Get your torch and pitchfork after them for that too, bud.

Re: Cisco & iPhone. One of the rules of Trademark law is that you defend it or lose it. Cisco had to defend the iPhone trademark. Please provide links to prove that Cisco somehow twisted Apple's arm into handing over data to the people in black helicopters, k?

Re: AT&T;and Privacy: take it up with your congressman, not Apple. Besides, name a major cell provider in the US that *hasn't* bent over for the Feds. And, at least since the early 70s, phone bills have included every single long-distance call made. It's not a privacy violation, but something people want so they can scream at their wife/husband/kids for talking too much on the phone, either over long-distance in the 70's or on the cell today.

Your rants are pure paranoia and/or blatant trolling (in which case, I fell for it). Nonetheless, I can refer you to a qualified counselor, if you like. Seriously.

Mar 01, 08 - 01:20 pm Comment from: macbones

I think 200- more for the 1tb is a bit outrageous.They'd sell a lot more of them if they sold both units at the same margin. And the more Apple products you sell now, the more Apple products you will sell.

Mar 01, 08 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Slevin

The TC is very quiet. It has a low hum but if you are more than 5 feet away you won't hear it at all.

Mar 01, 08 - 01:59 pm Comment from: Jamie

I think Mad Mac Maniac is gay.

Mar 01, 08 - 02:45 pm Comment from: blucaso

I don't know (or really care) if I'm being monitored Mad Mac, but I sure as hell hope you are being checked regularly. Your paranoia is even worse than I thought. If you seriously believed all of this was as big as you say, I think you wouldn't be using the internet at all, much less to try and warn us poor misguided suckers about "their" evil plots. Because surely they'll be coming to knock down your door any minute now.

I always am amused at people who see global conspiracies and some universal "big brother" database full of every detail of every persons every activity.

Do you have any idea how hard it would be to actually collect and make sense of all that data? And then on top of that, to actually use it? You're talking about companies that can't even manipulate stock prices illegally without getting caught (like Enron and others) - and governments that can't even monitor whether or not another country has nuclear or chemical weapons reliably. What makes you think that they can run an all-ecompassing data collection and monitoring system, much less do it well and keep it secret?

You don't need to connect the dots, dude. Just use common sense.

Mar 01, 08 - 03:00 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

What makes you think that they can run an all-ecompassing data collection and monitoring system, much less do it well and keep it secret?

It's not secret.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LexisNexis

Lexis has a library of public records, which includes current mailing addresses for nearly every living person in the United States. It has real property deeds and mortgages for nearly all states, and for many states, it also has voter registrations, motor vehicle registrations, marriage and divorce records, professional licenses, and liens. A related feature, SmartLinx, is quite popular with law enforcement officials, as it scans all Lexis public records databases to build a comprehensive profile of a target subject.

This is just the public database, not including the private or government held ones that monitor your every use of your credit/debit card, your every non-cash transaction, even including when you use your Electronic Freeway Pass.

Did you know if you have a "friend" at any car dealership you can have then run a "credit check" of someone for you? This check will give up vital information on you as your currently living, when you open a bank account and so on?

Mar 01, 08 - 03:07 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

Hey I might be paranoid, but I'm not wrong.
There is a reason for paranoid behavior, it's either real or imagined.

Mine is real. The facts are there for anyone willing to search for them.

It's only the paranoid you hear from, the rest are too scared or stupid to voice your concerns. But it's fun to ridicule those who see something is happening that is bad for our well being as people.

For instance, being the "Land of the Free" why is it the US incarcerates more people per capita than ANY OTHER NATION ON EARTH?

Why is it the British people, in a democratic nation no less, the mostly watched and electronically monitored people on the face of the planet?

Why is it that Xerox, AT&T;, Apple, Microsoft and all these companies feel it's necessary to cave into the controlling demands of the oppressive US government and the British?

Why is that? Is it because they make so many enemies?

Why isn't the US and British government loved?

Mar 01, 08 - 03:23 pm Comment from: blucaso

See, you're confusing issues here Mad Mac.

There's a difference between these various databases and an all-encompassing monitoring system.

I'm well aware that anyone with a half a brain and $35 can get a credit report on anyone else. Or a friend at a mortgage company, car dealership, or anywhere similar.

I'm also aware that there are public records of everything from housing, addresses, etc. But there have been for decades now. It's just that they're now online and easier to access.

Now I won't argue the case with you that if someone decides to find out about me, they can turn up a lot of information. They can, and easily too. But this (again) has been the case for decades. It's just a little easier than ever, due to technology.

That's the nature of technology. Faster access to information and more storage of electronic information means there is going to be more, easier, and faster access to data that you might not like to have so easily known.

But there's hardly any nefarious plot involved. This is all part and parcel of business and society going about its daily operations.

What you were arguing is some proactive search and flagging system that is globally tracking everyone. If we had such a system, there'd be a lot less child porn, a lot less pirated DVDs and CDs and software online, and a lot more people in prison. The fact is, "big business" would love if your Mac told them the instant you downloaded a free copy of their latest CD or DVD. But it can't, and it doesn't.

And the fact that AT+T and others cave is easily attributed to either stupidity or knowing which side your bread is buttered on. Individual consumers (and their rights) are less important to these companies than staying in business without hassle from the government. AT+T have repeatedly stated that they made a huge mistake cooperating with the NSA, but that they assumed it was all legal.

But don't blame AT+T completely, blame the overzealous administration of anti-terrorist policies. This is real enough, and worth a discussion. Not black helicopters and Bourne Identity secret agent stuff. That's pure Hollywood.

Mar 01, 08 - 03:48 pm Comment from: Magilla Gorilla

Blucaso-

You are sheeple. MadMac is not that far off here. It's not that MadMac is paranoid. It's whether he's paranoid enough. Some of you guys have no idea what you are talking about. It's just easier to call people paranoid or conspiracy freaks or tin hat wearing nuts. That's just the easy way for you to try to debunk something you don't fully comprehend. DON"T listen to MM or myself. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!! The military industrial complex has turned the US into a fascist state, e.g. the perfect marriage between government and business. Google "Military Commissions Act 2006". This stripped American citizens of their right to due process. Google "John Warner Defense Authorization Act", which literally makes the President a dictator. Here's a snippet from an article I just googled....

"John Warner Defense Authorization Act"
New legislation signed on May 9, 2007, declares that in the event of a "catastrophic event", the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power. In other words the new directive excludes Congress altogether from governance in a state of emergency.

"Military Commissions act 2006"
WHAT THE MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT OF 2006 "LEGISLATES"
- Doesn't suspend, as is accommodated for in the Constitution, but completely abolishes Habeas Corpus permanently - the right of the detainee to see the evidence against him and not be locked up for eternity based on the arbitrary will of the state.

- Contains a definition of "wrongfully aiding the enemy" which labels all American citizens who breach their "allegiance" to President Bush and the actions of his government as terrorists subject to possible arrest, torture and conviction in front of a military tribunal.

- Destruction of any property is defined as terrorism, which is deemed punishable by any means of the military tribunal's choosing.

- Any violent activity whatsoever is defined as terrorism if it takes place near a designated protected building, such as a charity building.

- A change of the definition of "pillaging" turns all illegal occupation of property and all theft into terrorism. This makes squatters and petty thieves enemy combatants.


I could go on and on, but I want to bore you with alll this. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!

Mar 01, 08 - 04:02 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

Individual consumers (and their rights) are less important to these companies than staying in business without hassle from the government.

Exactly.

I'm sure there are more repressive regimes out there than the US and British governments.

But I don't think they have as much control over information technology than the US does which makes them more effective and efficient at controlling our lives.

It's frightning to know that they track every purchase you make, every time you turn on your computer, how much water you use daily, what TV channels you watch, what web sites you visit, where you go on the freeway and so on.

If you don't think there are people who collect this data and process it daily like work, your in for a real surprise.

For instance, why do we need to provide a social security card to turn on the water utility? Strange uh? Like they want more information than you simply just paying your bill. Don't pay the bill, turn off the water, no problem right? Why the SSN card check?

ISP's know exactly what sites we visit, what torrents we download and so on. They pretend to offer privacy and not care, but they really do and keep large records and cross referencing, data mining.

They do this just in case somebody WANTS TO CARE about you.

You see if someone is out to get you, information technology makes it easier for them to do so. When otherwise they would have to take the matter to you personally, if they can find you. By then they tire of the chase.

But a few clicks on a keyboard and a person's life history is there for the fscking.

Information technology sucks.

Mar 01, 08 - 04:12 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

There's a difference between these various databases and an all-encompassing monitoring system.

Duh, they combine all these databases to give them nearly instant monitoring.

It's that you don't know they are doing this that gives the illusion of privacy.

Mar 01, 08 - 04:14 pm Comment from: ringworm

I guess the insane asylum recently had two escapies. Now posting at MDN.

Mar 01, 08 - 04:29 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

I guess the insane asylum recently had two escapies. Now posting at MDN.

Yes Ringworm and Jamie.

What stupid and childish comments to a otherwise very intelligent and thought provoking discussion.

One can't expect much from stupidity I guess.

Here, have a Vista Home Edition Premium Deluxe Version with inflatable rectum insertion device and a copy of Steve Balmers "Sweating Sexy to the Developers" Limited Edition Beta Porno Tape as my free parting gift for participating.

Mar 01, 08 - 04:30 pm Comment from: lanthony58

@ Magilia Gorilia Have you been to the Daily Kos site. They have a blog on FISA. Also I'm hoping more people start to pay attention to what Corperations and Goverment are doing!

Mar 01, 08 - 05:23 pm Comment from: some dude

@Mad Mac Maniac

Bro, your theories are on the fringe, and I dig that about you!!

Mar 01, 08 - 05:29 pm Comment from: Magilla Gorilla

Thanks, lanthony58-

I will check that out. Also, you (and everyone else) should check out http://www.prisonplanet.com and http://www.freedomtofascism.com. It's nice knowing others have taken off the blindfold and started asking questions. The government is supposed to work for us!! They should fear us, not the other way around. I get concerned when the government uses the same weapons it uses on our enemies on it's own citizens. By all means, please google this stuff....

Military heat ray gun zaps 60 Minutes reporterhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2008/010308gun.htm

LRAD
http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/030905lasers.htm

Tasers a form of torture, says UN
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/251107Tasers.htm


Also....
Embedded chip implants, a cashless society, RFID's, biometerics, Real ID Act, GPS (which is run by the the US military). These things should give everyone a sense of where we are headed....

Mar 01, 08 - 05:51 pm Comment from: iLuvMyMacs

< "Why isn't the US and British government loved?" >

Spoken like a true liberal.

Why do we HAVE to be loved?

Mar 01, 08 - 06:38 pm Comment from: Cubert

To change the subject, MacRumors has an article about false-advertising Apple is making regarding the Time Capsule.

Mar 01, 08 - 06:55 pm Comment from: WBFS

I find it interesting that a device for wireless data backup in the home or small office environment could spark such comments. Mind you I understand and agree with many of Mad Mac Maniac and Magilla Gorilla's points, no real news there for me. Is the day coming I will have to reconsider my oath? I don't think so, but The Constitution is not being followed as intended by the authors. 'nuf said.

Mar 01, 08 - 07:15 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

Ok you all think I'm crazy right?

Ok, count the number of ads on this web page.

Now I run blocking software and count 44, YES 44 failed connecting attempts.

Minus the number of ads you see (including those annoying mouse roll over pop-ups) from 44.

Now where are the other connections going too?

Yep, tracking you. Your machine, your IP address, your location, OS version, browser version, monitor size and possibly more.

And if your a real unlucky person, even your MAC address. Which is hardwired to your machine and kept as a record at Apple, or Dell or whomever assembled your computer.

Real interesting isn't it?

Doubleclick and Fastclick knows when you came here to this site, and others as you browse around the internet.

Mar 01, 08 - 10:26 pm Comment from: WBFS

@ Mad Mac Maniac

OK, I'll bite. More information please.



Thanks, WBFS

Mar 01, 08 - 11:18 pm Comment from: The Macster

@Mad Mac Maniac:

First, if you're so scared of every site on the Internet (including this one) monitoring your IP address, your location, OS version, the color of your toenail polish, and what you had for breakfast this morning - then what the hell are you doing using a computer AT ALL? Shouldn't you be crying out for your mommy while cowering in the corner of a candle-lit basement in a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere with no utilities so you can't be "tracked"? Hmmm?

Second, what are you and your other paranoid conspiracy-theory nut friends so scared of anyway:

- That your paranoid delusions are actually so on-target that the world will simply collapse if an intelligence community agency were to learn the contents of your idiotic ramblings? Yeah, right, you're that important.

- That you're a drug dealer?

- That they're going to find kiddie porn on your computer?

- That you're another Islamic fundamentalist extremist who thinks he's going to be rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven if you blow up yourself and everyone around you? Is that why you hate the USA so much? Islamic nuts hate the USA and England because we are primarily a Christian society and because we denounce their suicidal/murderous acts as terroristic lunacy, which is what they are. Surveillance and monitoring of these wackos is fine with me. Why do you have a problem with that? Because everyone should be able to "express themselves" in such heinous ways?

Third, as far as you sarcastically referring to the USA as "The Land of the Free" because there are people in prison: What would you prefer? Complete anarchy? So it's OK for everyone to steal, rape, and kill without any consequences - is that your liberalist utopia? Surely you wouldn't mind if someone broke into your residence and stole everything you own; after all, they're entitled to it, right? Do you not comprehend that those people in prison chose to commit their crimes, and they're now paying the societal price? Grade-school children understand that concept, moron.

Doubling your anti-psychotic prescriptions will not help you. You're simply too far gone.

Mar 01, 08 - 11:51 pm Comment from: Magilla Gorilla

Ok, I'm convinced. Macster, you're and indiot! Nothing personal....

Mar 02, 08 - 12:51 am Comment from: iDon't

Mad Mac is right!

Mar 02, 08 - 09:56 am Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

...then what the hell are you doing using a computer AT ALL?

Not scared, just aware and warning others. If nobody tells anyone, then they get away with it.

- That you're a drug dealer..kiddie porn..Islamic fundamentalist extremist...?

I've got nothing to hide, I'm so paranoid of what "they" can do that I live a perfectly SCARED LIFE. I'm afraid to j-walk, afraid to go to a party because someone might use drugs there and infect me which I would have to go to jail for. I'm afraid the minute I get a bill the check won't go through and I'll go to jail for check fraud.

I can hide behind the internet, to some extend. They have a hard time getting me that way. But they try.

Things that are used for good can also be used for bad, just like a baseball bat. It can be used for a fun game with friends, or knocking down mailboxes.

It's not the tools that the problem, it's the person/persons behind it. I's the further implementation of more and more monitoring and control techniques that make it harder and harder to trust the people in charge anymore.

Are all these monitoring and controls in our best interest or theirs for control?

Is it because is it that the human animal is unpredictable and in a increasing world of corporate globalization and controls that more control over individuals is needed to control the whole organization of society from falling into chaos?

Look what happens when the power goes off for a few hours, people go nuts!

When you start thinking about it, seeing that there are ways to implement the same goals without resorting to knowing everything a person does, then you realize "hey why aren't they doing this way and preserving our privacy?"

It's because they want you to lose the concept of privacy so they can control you completely. Much like christian churches forbad you from having sex because that natural instinct of self procreation is the only thing preventing them from fully controlling their sheep's minds.

Islamic nuts hate the USA and England because we are primarily a Christian society and because we denounce their suicidal/murderous acts as terroristic lunacy, which is what they are.

Islamic's hate the US and England because we support Israel which wiped Palestine off the face of the map. They also hate us racially because we have the same skin tone as a lot of the upper class Israeli's. They lastly hate us because we are not muslims like them.

They don't care if your a liberal Democrat or not, which should be a message to those people.

Terrorism is designed to thwart the rewards of conquest, i.e., stability and growth of the occupying enemy. It's designed to be a protracted battle, a war of attrition, until the enemy retreats. The flame thrower and nukes are terror weapons.

Third, as far as you sarcastically referring to the USA as "The Land of the Free" because there are people in prison: What would you prefer? Complete anarchy?...

It's because for the tinniest offense, a young kid is slammed for several years.

He comes out a hardened criminal with more experience and is likely to do more serious crime than if he would have done some time and then gotten on with his life doing something else productive. Prison ruins lives.

There are people that rightly deserve to be locked up, no doubt. But when entire states employ corrections as a state industry, getting a $100 a day from the Federal Government for each inmate and only feeding them less than a $1 a day in food, $0 in education and .30¢ a hour to build more prisons.

Something is seriously wrong with our country.

Doubling your anti-psychotic prescriptions will not help you. You're simply too far gone.

and your far too dumb, thank you for playing. raspberry

Mar 02, 08 - 11:31 am Comment from: @MDN

OK, the sheer amount of conspiracy-nonsense on this thread has become revolting. Do something about the nut-jobs hijacking MDN threads, or you're going to lose your real readers. Starting with this one.
Thank you,
Jake

Mar 02, 08 - 11:52 am Comment from: jcw3rd

One day soon, a new president will be sworn into office. Shortly thereafter, he/she will be made aware of all the things our government is up to, wrt invasion of personal privacy.

Which candidate do you think will become complacent in this effort and which one will say "This is not right. Stop this."? My answer is Obama. Maybe McCain because of his stance on torture. But probably NOT Hillary.

Mar 02, 08 - 04:21 pm Comment from: WBFS

@jcw3rd

You think the president is involved in the mundane details of such things as electronic surveillance programs? He may know it exists but much beyond that, only the results if big enough fish are caught.

Mar 03, 08 - 09:59 am Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

You do not believe me. These problems are real. Your government is plotting against you and knows everything you do. Everything.

In 1976 there was a sudden global elastic shortage engineered by the United States and Great Britain, bringing the underwear industry, and the briefs they manufacture, to their knees. All of the major apparel makers were given an ultimate--provide the US and UK governments with immediate, unfettered access to all future underwear sold or face never having the elastic supply restored.

All underwear and bras now contain both color-coding detection fibers as well as cosmic nanite tracking powers.

Any homosexual putting on a pair of underwear manufactured after June 16, 1976 is promptly detected by the color-coding detection fibers, which turn pink and can be seen under microcopic evaluation. The AIDS infection is not a naturally occuring virus, but rather began as a malfunction in the initial nanites imbeded in cotton briefs manufactured at Fruit of the Loom's Bloomington, IL plant. The nanites reacted violently to pink-triggered color-coded detection fibers which, by the way, in addition to turning pink also turned GLOSSY. This is why AIDS is so closely associated with homosexuals--AIDS is not a global viral pandemic, but rather a nanite-fueled micromachine reaction attempting to kill pink glossy coded underwear.

I have all the documentation proving this. It has been suppressed by generations of power-mad homosexuals seeking to hide the fact that they are the transmitters of the pink GLOSSY nanite attack. In the past the effort was lead by Barney Frank, and then Larry Craig until his recent difficulties. It is now lead by Florida Charlie Crist, where the conspiracy is kept buried as far in the closet as Crist himself.

Mar 03, 08 - 12:04 pm Comment from: spaceMan

Wow... Time Warp? Alternate reality? Multiple Universe?

Who would have guessed what pandora's box was opened by Time Capsule.

RFID hasn't been brought up yet, but overall I think the subject of stealth monitoring, etc are interesting. If you have read Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson I think, it's all quite fascinating.

Now, back to the topic at hand: Time Capsule:

Why is it that I can add a USB disk to time capsule, and that is an acceptable target for Time Machione (in addition to the TC internal disk), yet a USB disk attached to Airport Base Station is not?

My suspicion is the confusion over GPM, APM, and MBR formatted disks.

Mar 03, 08 - 03:46 pm Comment from: WBFS

My briefs have never been at my knees by order of the government!

Mar 03, 08 - 03:57 pm Comment from: Mad Mac Maniac

I think one of my neighbors must have given in at bought a Time Capsule. I took a nap this afternoon and felt intrusive, spying Time Capsule radio waves invading my personal space and precious bodily fluids. When I woke up I conducted a careful examination of myself, physically and spiritually, and discovered that my nads were now GLOSSY.

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