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You forgot that 8 is also one of the Lost numbers.

John Dvorak thinks Schmitt is joining Apple to aid in a merger with SunMicro. Was amused to see Dvorak do an interview, on CNBC, without spitting his blog address out.

Remember this?

Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information..........

It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"
Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."
The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"
"No, sir," continued Ollie.
"No? And why not?" the senator asked.
"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."
"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.
"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.
"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"
"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.
"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.
"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.

By the way, that senator was Al Gore.

Also:
Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.

Why the hating on Al Gore? He invented the internet. Everyone jokes about it but seriously, without the work he did in the Senate to get certain projects funded we would most likely not have the internet we know and love to today.

The Schmidt possibilities are interesting, but all we have is speculation. But the Gore position on the board is ridiculous. He's a twit with nothing to offer, except for giving Jobs the opportunity of showing his hippie roots to his buddies.

So Al Gore owns Current? Cool. That's a neat network. I don't watch it regularly, but when there's nothing else on, I flip over. It's never boring. And it looks like the network is run on a shoestring, so I doubt it needs much in the way of ratings to break even.

(Oh, and the reason for the hating on Al Gore is because the site is run by right-leaners. It becomes obvious the longer you pay attention.)

Google + Apple + Al Gore’s Current TV = An easily searchable database of defunct and soon-to-be-defunct TV networks and shows with an innovative, elegant GUI.

Duh.

Granny--the terrorist's name was Abu Nidal, you menopausal, neo-facist, Lily Riefenstal (I'm too mad to care if I spelled that correctly) wanna-be!

Look it up in the Congressional record. I don't have to, because I was WATCHING IT AT THE TIME!

Oh yeah, Ollie shitting all over the uniform he didn't deserve. Makes one proud.

No, the hating on Al Gore is because he's a moron that doesn't really add anything of substance to Apple.

Please Jay, enlighten us... what, exactly, did Al Gore do to "invent" the Internet? The guy is moron and him being on the Apple board is ludicrous.

LordRobin,

It's obvious that MDN is joking, you insipid, tight-ass, insular "left-leaner." Hey, I know 'em when I see 'em! (That's a joke, too: see my "name?")

Al Gore is fine. And a fine target for poking fun. Or are only Bush and Cheney allowed to be made fun of in your tiny little world?

Lighten up.

We hate Al Gore because we must NOT think for ourselves.

Right = right! Always! There can be NO dissenting voices in democracy!

What America needs is more of the same! MDN knows this and they cannot abide non-Republicans!

This post will be deleted in 3... 2... and 1!

This is my favorite video on Current TV, because it's so true!!

http://www.current.tv/watch/5970347

Again, it just goes to show that it sure doesn't take much to draw the commie leftists around here offsides. Reading your dramatic (and often highly inaccurate factually) overreactions are always quite hilarious.

Granny: Take your urban legend somewhere else.

In numerology, 7 is a perfect number.

Al Gore is a moron. I am watching him on British telly right now kissing up to the UK. It is embarrassing to watch. What must it be like to be him?

NO 7'S THE NUMBER! 7 MINUTE ABS! 7 LITTLE CHIMPMONKS TWIRLING ON A BRANCH...

"8 maids a-milking"

MDN, sometimes you really do crack me up! 'Course, I'm not a tight-ass Liberal who can't laugh at a thing for a week when one of their own blocks of wood is the focus of a tiny bit of humor.

MacBill,

Thanks for the URL; I loved the video. And I am sure the neo-conservatives* will guarantee that the Republican presidential candidate wins in 2008 as well.

*(Neo-conservative? What's so new about fascism?)

Granny, you're 100% correct. I saw that session of congress. Lower case, because they are ALL low life.

That maroon Gorey couldn't invent a hair-net, let alone the internet.

MacBill, take your urban legend and dump it along with Granny's...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

Granny... I love your attempt... but do the research to be sure you're quoting the truth next time. And also make sure that when you present something here that it's clear who did the writing and what part is quoted from somewhere else.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp


MW=The thing about the truth is that if it's not true, it ain't the truth. Ain't that the truth?

MacBill... give it up.

(whiner)

LordRobin - agree with you. I too change the channel to Current just to see what is on. Some of the spots are very clever. Didn't know AG owned the network either.

I am totally SURPRISED that Apple users are NOT bigger fans of Current given great tools such as iLife, Final Cut Express, etc. and how Mac users are suppose to be on the "creative" side. Who knew?

MDN - you must be having a bad day. IMHO - your take is well BELOW your usual standard. The only point you made - and not very clearly I might add - is that you disagree with the article. Sarcasm - without providing any additional information about why you disagree with the article - is unbecoming and does not provide the readers with any real value / information.

I'll get off my soap box now. Peace.

iTunes digital media service into the Google Toolbar? I really don´t know who uses that toolbar. I use my mac every day for work and for home, and I don´t need that Google toolbar, and I really don´t think that getting the CEO of Google into Apple´s Board has to do anything with getting iTunes into the Toolbar..... it seems very stupid to me!

I really think that it is a good move to have the CEO of Google in apple´s Board, but I think it would be even better to have Steve Jobs in Google´s Board!!!!! That would mean awsome Google + Mac integration! leave the windows world behind! more than it is already!

Al Gore (as VP I believe) was instrumental in pushing through legislation that put financial backing into the internet - insuring that it would be what it is today.
I remember watching Al Gore on television talking about his legislation funding the Information Highway. Remember the Information Highway. Now it's called the internet. Do a little reading.

Al Gore - Unlike that puppet George Bush - is on the Apple board because Steve Jobs finds him to be a great value to Apple. Because Al Gore is a brilliant man.

George Bush would no doubt be the kiss of death were he to find himself as a board member at Apple. Not to even bring up V.P. Cheney. Apple would be drained of all cash in a year.

Every business venture that GWB has ever been in - when it ran out of funded money - went bankrupt. Kind of like what he's doing to the U.S.

Which also means that Ron is an idiot, who is prone to lie about anything that makes him feel a bit superior.

How's this little bit of information ron?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_controversies#Influence_on_the_Internet

Granny,

Ollie North did not site Osama bin Laden as the terrorist out to get him. In fact, bin Laden was a U.S. ally at the time - a 'freedom fighter' in Afghanistan. The terrorist North named was Abu Nidal, a Palestinian guerrila leader.

As for Atta, this rumor originally sited Reagan as the president who let Atta go. But the truth is that no president forced anyone to release Atta. The Mohammed Atta involved in the Israel bus bombing in 1986 was actually captured by the FBI when he tried to come to the U.S. He was extradicted to Israel in 1990 and is serving a life term in prison. He is not the Mohammed Atta who was involved in the 9/11 attacks. Some name, different guy.

Facts should be checked before spreading such stories. It is easy to do.

Here are non-partisan articles debunking your bunk:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/atta.asp

You republicans make me sick.

Granny:

Yeah, too bad that Al Gore / Ollie North story is a complete hoax: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

Oh, and so is the story about Clinton letting Atta go: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blatta.htm

Another case of the religious right spreading falsehoods to discredit the left.

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I do not hate Al Gore. I do generally despise him. I also find Al Gore ignorant, arrogant, condescending, and hypocritical, but I do not hate him.

Rob,

So, you got any more of them thar facts to share?

MDN left out the 'eight-fold way'!

Jay:

Yeah, baa-aaa-aah. I baa-aaa-aah agreeeee. Baa-aaah.

You are one of the chosen Gore sheeple.

"The 10 hottest years in recorded human history have all occured in the last 14 years." (i.e. since the human race was carefully, properly measuring the temperature and writing it down)

This is the take home 1 liner from An Inconvenient Truth.

Am I the only person who finds this to be absolutely frightening?

I'm surprised nobody else has brought this up.

(if you haven't yet seen the movie, see it or buy the dvd.)

I welcome logical, thoughtful, factual comment on this. This is the big Al Gore issue - try and get with the times here people.

Left or Right, the web has made the spreading of bogus info easier than ever. There are plenty of unsupportable "facts" coming from both sides. Rather than pointing fingers at those you don't agree with and slamming them for being "liars" when they sincerely think they are being honest, we all need to put a check on tongues and typing fingers before speak or type something that we haven't exhaustively substantiated.

I'll tell you all what I hate. That is coming here for Mac news and seeing this spew of political bile.

Give it a rest.

What about me? I wanna be on the board too! I'll be number, uh, nine. Let's see, eight plus one equals... yeh.

Al Gore is "brilliant"? OMG, I had to read that three times to make sure I was reading it right.

And any idiot who believe "A Inconvenient Truth" is a "documentary" and not a bunch of bullshit propaganda probably also thinks Michael Moore really does write non-fiction movies.

>>Am I the only person who finds this to be absolutely frightening?

Unfortunately, no, you're not the only moron gullible enough to believe it. Try doing some research on so-called "global warming" and find out the truth, not the Al Gore politics.

Oh, don't get in the way of Bush-voting Republicans and their little worlds of Democratic-loathing make-believe.

The next thing you'll be asking them to do is reconsider their support for "young earth" creationism or intelligent design.

Bush-voting Republicans hate Gore because they fear that he'll influence the 2008 by endorsing a candidate who'll catch a public mood of environmental concern. So they'll ridicule him and his views and they'll lie about him and spread disinformation about his family.

But when these people have the gall to talk about how Gore gets all of his money from oil, it's worth pointing out which party's candidates get the most funding from oil and gas companies or from the PR/lobbying firms that represent them (step forward, all those Republican politicians in Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Louisiana and all the the other oil/gas states).

And when they take potshots at Gore re: the Internet myth, the question they should really be asking is what the people they support have done to support innovation in the information technology sphere and to make sure that innovation was made available to the widest audience at the least cost. But that would require an analytical mind, hell it would require a mind.

AL GORE IS A """FSCKEN IDIOT""" !!!!!!!!!

I am a conservative. Al Gore seemed like a very good senator(not as good as Howard Baker, though) and an average VP. It has always amazed me how quickly he went downhill after the 2000 election. He was hilarious on SNL, then he got scarey. Maybe that explains why he is the ONLY presidential candidate I can recall that did not win his home state. Maybe they knew him better than we. I bet that bothered him more than Florida, which after 3 recounts by the media, showed Bush clearly won. Gore had more popular votes nationwide, but the Framers saw the wisdom of the electoral college to help smaller states have an equal say in national politics. And don't even mention the Supreme Court. That was a Federal election covered by Federal laws, of which the Florida Supreme Court had NO jurisdiction. Let's see that on Current TV!

Spark:

Sorry, Sparky, I suppose that you could blame Al Gore for all public discourse here at MDN. Al did invent the internet, you know, and without Al none of this would have been possible. Therefore, if you have a beef, it’s with Al not with anyone here.

Seriously, the best thing for you to do is to learn to live with it, because you are not going to make anyone change his or her behavior. Alternatively, you can choose never come back to MDN because, in all probability, you will find more of the same. Something about freedom of the press, oppressed, repressed, depressed, impressed, distressed, confessed, accessed, undressed, and I digress. I don't know, you figure it out.

"Google + Apple + Al Gore’s Current TV = ?"

A failed TV network with content on a failed web video distribution system (Google Video) edited by Final Cut?

It'll still be crap.

Say Granny!...was it not Ronald Reagan who funded Osama bin Laden to defeat Moscow in Afganistan? Was 'Oli' in cahoots with the devil then?????

Since when did so many Mac users become 15 year-old rednecks? Must be all the Windows switchers. Explains why journalists and anybody not a Mac Zealot complains that anytime they criticize Apple they are electronically spat upon by Mac fanatics because of their non-belief. Makes me want to switch to Linux more everyday.

C´mon people get real, if it wasn´t for Bill Clinton picking Al Gore as VP, Al Gore would be long gone and disappeared from the celebrity politician landscape. Bill Clinton made Gore.
Gore failed (for whatever reasons of the political debate you want to be on). Gore is a loser - twice now. Why Steve Jobs got himself involved with Gore when there are so many better Democrats to choose from one has no idea.

What has Al Gore ever done for Apple? Please, somebody give me a concrete example. Are there any minutes of Apple board meetings where we could see what he contributed to the bottom line of Apple? Did Al maybe secretly gave Steve the idea for the iPod and Al is too humble to take credit? Did Al give Steve the "i" idea?

Interesting correlation, the more criticism liberal politicians receive at MDN, the more strident the comments from their supporters about the excesses of political discussions. Well, lads, get used to it, because, unlike some other countries, you cannot silence the voices the people.

More speculation, just like idiots who thought Steve Jobs was going to run for President of the US because Al Gore joined Apple's board of directors.


Steve Jobs is making sure what happened with the board the last time he was in charge of Apple won't happen again.

I don't blame him, FSCKING JOHN SCULLY ASSHOLE.