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Ok, say it 12 times as fast as you can...

"Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks."


MDN magic word= "Hard" yep.

Too bad. Most of the Greeks hate America. Now they make demands on an American company?

Steve Jobs better not invoke the wrath of the Olympian gods.

OR even worse:

"Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks..."

Dion,

where do you get this twaddle from peabrain?

Most Greeks I know - and I know a lot - don't hate any country ...
with the possible exception of Turkey.

>"Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks...">

SB--"Greasy Greek Geeks, Greasy Greek Geeks, Greasy Greek Geeks..."

Try that with "pink blob"

I came, I saw, iPod...

everybody hates turkisch people

Hmmmm.... I don't find Greeks revolting. In fact, I thing they are pretty nice.

Too bad. Most of the Greeks hate America. Now they make demands on an American company?
— Dion

Oh, please. You're confusing yourself with America again.

There's always the question of "how small an audience is too small?". My wife was in a play recently where the cast was larger than the audience. But, the actors didn't expect to get paid - nothing unusual, there. Apple expects to make a profit. We expect Apple to make a profit. Does Apple need to hire a Greek-fluent Web-designer to update that part of their site? Would that geek be the Greek Business Unit?
How many Macs would Apple have to sell in Greece to support even that minimal expense? Fingers and toes time:
* cost of employee salary + office + benefits + server = $100,000/yr
* profit on typical Mac = $250
* break-even point = 100,000/250 = 400 Macs
OK ... I confess - I made those numbers up. Apple makes more on each Mac that isn't a 'mini' and that $100k is maybe a little low. But can you even call a single mid-level geek a "business unit"? Figure a "business unit" doing little more than focusing on translation and supply questions will cost five times that, even if it doesn't include a 'project manager' or the like but is instead just a line item on a generic manager's budget. Now we are up to "thousands of Mac sales" - just to break even. Do Greeks buy thousands of Macs every year? Would they buy additional thousands of Macs yearly if Apple spent this kind of money to appease them?

Dion,

I have to agree with Gavron -- your comments reflect your ignorance / immaturity.

I am Greek-American and have several cousins in Greece that use Mac's in the University where they work. They themselves have said, however, that the lack of Apple's (the company) presence makes it tough for them to convince others about the advantages of the Mac platform. European sales of Macs are on the rise -- why shouldn't Apple do what it can to continue that trend? (Maybe the size of that particular market isn't considered "worthwhile" enough, but, every little gain in customers is a step in the right direction for Apple).

It isn´t just Greece, all of Europe needs better Apple representation. The company is all but invisible in Europe.
One wonders what the head of marketing for Europe does? Or is there even one?

MDN: "Greek Mac users are revolting"

PCA: "Yes, and they smell awful, too!"

Too easy?

Seriously, though.. good luck, Greecers.

>The company is all but invisible in Europe.>

I was in a computer store in Derry, Northern Ireland, and asked about Macs. The salesman actually laughed out loud. They did have Macs in the store, but weren't interested in selling them.

I heard that way back when the Greeks first started using Macs, all the activities were done in the nude.

>I was in a computer store in Derry, Northern Ireland, and asked about Macs. The salesman actually laughed out loud. They did have Macs in the store, but weren't interested in selling them.>

BTW--they weren't plugged in.

@ron

"BTW--they weren't plugged in."

same thing I find at Fry's Electronics. They're plugged in, but every setting and system preference you can screw up has been screwed up.

@TowerTone
ok.. are you the real Ampar?

"ok.. are you the real Ampar?"

I am but the student, not the master...

Who said that Greeks hate Americans? Dion maybe you are talking about yourself.

Ignorance. Nobody hates anybody, they simply want what the rest of Europe already has. Official representation. Read their website before you start making your comments. They pay for those macs ya know.

did just some one said " everybody hates turkisch people " ......? st1 ...? I guess you want to say TURK not turkisch ....! im here to teach you how you should say TURK ===== thats the way you should say..!

have a great day to all mac users..

The vast majority of the people in the world hate America's government.

And they hate Dion.

But, the Greeks don't want no freaks. Or Dions.

to TURK: whatever, we all hate you, togheter with the Marock people

to st1 ---- i am sure its soo easy to talk like that from behind the computer do you wanna say that to my face....? i live in NEWYORK - US
I guess this is a mac forums we shouldnt talk about that here --- but we allready did soo here is the deal ---

First respect and then be respected.

... and finally bring Apple to the rest of the world.

that should be subject , who cares-- who hate from who.. why dont you talk about mac , i am Turk i live in US -I have lots of Greek friends & we have no problem with them..! & you are free to hate me, i have no problem with that i just can smile thats all

They should just use Windows, it's all Greek to me!

(I'm half Greek so I can say that)
Now I'm off to start a petition for an Apple web site in Latin (and maybe one in Klingon)

with this and that... TURK has another friend living in Greece now on

cheers & peace you all mates

You don´t understand the problem...

Go to
http://www.apple.gr
and you can see what issue is

One guy from Finland:

LOL!