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They're strong enough to survive... believe me!!! They're damn strong.

I think I'd add Vista to that list of public failures.

Beautifully stated comment about Microsoft.

And I'd withdraw Windows XP from that list. Calling that a failure, is poor journalism. It did just good, although it was not as evolutionary as Windows 95.

Mac+, Strong and big are not the same thing.

Feb 21, 08 - 12:36 pm Comment from: Tiger Leopard

One of the better Microsoft stories I have read. It tells the TRUTH!

@ M.X.N.T.4.1,

Thanks for correcting. I should say they're both strong and big. And that doesn't take anything away from Apple though.

They are strong indeed. It has taken Apple a continuous string of successes during the last five years and a couple of incredible blunders from Microsoft for Apple to just double its market share. That sure proves how resilient MS is.

WinME should have been the top of that list. 360 hasn't done too bad, oh wait... the whole ring of death thing.

CPU was rooted in the PPC G5 platform, which ran hotter than almost any chip on the market (G5 heatsinks, anyone?)

All stupid M$ had to do was pull a cover off a G5, or visit apple.com to see the scoop... oh wait, they sent early devs G5!!!!

You are not going to shove a chip like that into a shoebox with little space and a small heatsink and expect it to cool properly. Not to mention, people shove console whereever they can: plases with not much airflow.

Feb 21, 08 - 12:56 pm Comment from: NCIceman

Yeah, I'd add Vista to that list. But I would not call XP a failure.

Feb 21, 08 - 01:15 pm Comment from: TheConfuzed1

I also would not cal XP a failure, but it took a couple service packs to make it useable (although, it is still light years behind the competition).

Read the article. The sentence that begins with "Windows XP" is actually talking about people starting with Vista "upgrading" to XP. Vista is the failure mentioned. The MDN header should be corrected to reflect this.

The real story here is that Microsoft's only incentive for backing HD-DVD in the first place was to try to create a stalemate in the marketplace with Blu-ray. They didn't want for HD-DVD to ever succeed, what they wanted was for *both* HD optical formats to die in favor of digital downloads. Thankfully that agenda has failed miserably, and now Blu-ray can move on to it's rightful place as the heir to the DVD.

ME & Vista are failures worthy of this list.

XP should not be on the list. Lest we are comparing apples...

Feb 21, 08 - 01:51 pm Comment from: mr_matalino

I never realized that microsoft was so far entrenched in HD-DVD. Money can't buy everything...

Well said!

And Vista IS a failure if you think of it as the evolution of Windows. It left Microsoft with Vista - a disaster. XP put them in a dead end.

Feb 21, 08 - 01:58 pm Comment from: elgruga

f you havent read Daniel Eran Dilger before, then book mark his site at Roughlydrafted.com.

He is one of the best writers around.

Dilger calls XP a failure, and he explains quite clearly why - read the full article before commenting on it.

I agree, Dilger is a good writer and very informed on all things Apple. I love reading his articles.

Apple: Innovation by design.

Micros**t: Innovation by court order.

Notice to Micros**t:

I run my own business as a certified 100% Micros**t Free company.

Personally certified by ensuring that no part of my business is touched by any Micros**t product of any kind. Not being tech savvy, I did the best I could.

Hmm, I wonder if there is anyone (tech type of course) out there who would start a formal Certification program?

Any of you tech heads got the guts?

Feb 21, 08 - 03:05 pm Comment from: Woody

I like your thinking, MWTMI!

Feb 21, 08 - 03:17 pm Comment from: DRM sucks

How about Plays For Sure?

Feb 21, 08 - 03:27 pm Comment from: shen

if xbox, XP, CE, and the zune are failures, what the hell vista?!?

Feb 21, 08 - 03:42 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

@+Mac
"They're strong enough to survive... believe me!!! They're damn strong."

Sure, so was the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, the Ottoman Empire... Where are they today? NOTHING is permanent NOTHING . Fortunately for us all, including Microsoft.

XP Pro SP2 is not a failure.

It is good enough.

Not good enough for me, but good enough.

Feb 21, 08 - 04:47 pm Comment from: Roberto

Microsoft Bob !!!

Feb 21, 08 - 05:51 pm Comment from: Lurker_PC

Wow! Great article. I had no idea of the "back story". This article puts into perspective Microsoft's announcement today to be more open.

Peace.

Feb 21, 08 - 06:35 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

Excellent article.

Finally, the best tech, on multiple levels, wins!

Tech writers and analysts are so full of BS that reading their ramblings is as entertaining as the Presidential Campaign, and about as meaningful. My own take I posted in my blog today:
http://chris-olson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!EFEB4F5150FDCE3!382.entry

Former Mac User wrote at 8:47 pm:

Tech writers and analysts are so full of BS that reading their ramblings is as entertaining as the Presidential Campaign, and about as meaningful. My own take I posted in my blog today:
http://chris-olson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!EFEB4F5150FDCE3!382.entry

Hey, FMU, I really wanted to read what you have posted in your blog, but clicking your link brought me to:

"Sorry, Spaces is temporarily unavailable at this time.
The service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."

Now, please remind me, who runs that spaces/live.com thing again? And by telling me twice that it's temporarily unavailable, does that mean it's temporarily unavailable? or does that somehow cancel itself out?

I hope to try again later.

OK, Chris, so I found out how to get into your blog even though it claimed the service was unavailable, so I guess they did cancel each other out.

Funny that in your post from December 18, 2007, entitled "Blu-ray vs HD DVD" you wrote:

"...Betamax was probably superior to VHS, but Sony forgot one thing - what the consumers wanted.  Sony believed that having better quality recordings was the key to success, but it soon became clear that consumer desire was focused more intently on recording time and compatibility for easy transfer of data.
 VHS was 'good enough' and it was cheaper.
 
"And that's exactly what's going to kill Blu-ray off eventually... If Sony was smart, instead of trying to compete with HD DVD they should target a different consumer segment with Blu-ray - the higher end - just like Apple does.  Otherwise, there's no way Blu-ray will ever compete with sub-$100 HD DVD players on the shelves at Walmart.  Blu-ray's days are numbered if Sony doesn't change their tactics.

And today, you kicked off the post with "All the tech sites are buzzing over the recent Blu-ray/HD DVD fiasco, and it's rather interesting to see these tech writers and analysts doing the ape-like beating on the chest thing proclaiming how insightful they were/are."

Sounds like sour grapes for not only being wrong, but for being REALLY wrong and in short order. Hanging around Microsoft a bit too much, perhaps.

omg journalists are starting to wake up

scratch that, didnt realise it was RDM

Feb 22, 08 - 02:01 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Money can't buy everything..."

That's not what Ballmer's golden stitched toilet paper says.