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Apple to be US no.3 next quarter or is anyone betting on a Gateway surge.

Enough with the surges already.

We love surges!

Apple might beat those shipment numbers since they probly don't have a complete and accurate count of Apple's sales through its retail stores and online.

"Apple to be US no.3 next quarter or is anyone betting on a Gateway surge."

Spots 3-6 are all so close, and Acer and Toshiba are growing much faster than Apple.

If the rumors of a iMac refresh next month are true, then overtaking Gateway is certainly a possiblility... I know I've been waiting for such an event since the beginning of the year so I can replace my old G3 Blue and White...

I say we give sanctions more time to work.

Windows PC venders are fighting Apple "over there", so they don't have to fight them here at home; where their losing ground.

So Apple will have 10% in three years? I hope its soon than that, since double digital market share should cause the Mac market to explode.

What ever happened to the SEC or FTC's investigation of Dell's recent financial dealings/reportings?

Are they out of the woods yet?

I have a serge suit. It's too warm to wear in So. Ca. I'll wager not too many of you have even heard of a serge suit.

Whaaaa? No, I mean, Dahhh...

That is a SURGE for Apple and a SQUIRT for PC's!

good to see both gateway and dell losing ground with their POS machines......

MDN seems to overlook Acer's growth rate.
With its 163,8% growth and just 0,4% market share difference to Gateway and Apple, it looks more likely that next year the top 4 would be: HP - Dell - Acer - Apple

Dolita, I was about to post the very same thing.

But it isn't only Acer, Toshiba's growth rate is about double Apple's as well.

Apple could move in front of Gateway, only to see both Acer and Toshiba in front of them, with Apple then moving down to number 6.

But people here see only what they want to see.

Yes, it's called .Mac. That's one of the biggee things coming in Leopard.

So is Apple growing in the rest of the world? Is the growth of Apple matched in the rest of the world? I don't know. The American market is only one snapshot. I'm more interested in how Apple is going worldwide. Yet from this article I have no idea what the hell is happening.

"MDN seems to overlook Acer's growth rate."

Of course it is. MDN tries to ignore any facts that are not favorable to Apple.

Hey MDN, do you not see Toshiba and Acer?

Ugh, how many words would people have liked to read? I wouldn't have highlighted Acer or Toshiba either-- as neither is an American Company. That Gateway and Dell are dropping is most important given Apple's primary market, the US.

MW "purpose" as in "There was one when reporting."

you don't know the history of surges; I do.

I just do not see Apple taking any kind of "lead" for quite a while. You have to look at all those $300 computer systems that dads are buying their teenage kids. But when those kids go to college, That is when we want them to decide to go Mac. More money to spend, and a life long love of Mac. Just a thought.

Afterall, BMW does not try to sell the most, just to the best.

Acer and Toshiba sell a lot of cheap notebooks. I bet that is where they are pick a lot of market share. The question is are these guys making much money out of this.

The point is, that with each percentage point Apple gets in the market, their profitability increases far more.

Apple's not playing the market share game like everyone else. They're going for profitability. That's why you won't get cheap and nasty machines from Apple.

"That's why you won't get cheap and nasty machines from Apple."

Only expensive and nasty ones.

Perplexed Apple user,

I don't know about the rest of the world, but there's absoulutely no doubt in my mind that Apple is growing in Europe too. I've no statistics at hand, but it's plainly visible.
e.g. I work in a hospital in Berlin. Four years ago I was the only Mac user in the department; now there are four of us. When the new iMacs come out it'll go up to five - he's waiting on my advice.
You also see increasingly more Macs in the cafés and the universities.

Of course Apple is growing its Mac share worldwide.

The rest of the world are always a bit slower. Although here in the UK Mac sales are going incredibly well. Macs are popping up all over the place, and it's become much easier to persuade people to make the switch.

@Charko
Same experience for me too.
Here in Sydney, Australia. In the not so long past I used to be one of maybe three or so people with a Mac at the Sydney studios of a large Australian Television Network, but these days it seems that every Shazza, Bazza n' Mustafa has a Mac.

The light at the end of the tunnel is getting very, very bright now !!!

Someone needs to do the work to report on Apple's share of the market in which they compete.

Not the bottom feeding, zero margin commodity business - which makes up at least 50% of the PC sales market.

I would argue that -in their market- Macs already have at least a 20% market share in the US.

@DogOne

Apple makes more cash than Sony, and their revenues aren't even close.

"Someone needs to do the work to report on Apple's share of the market in which they compete."

I have done the research, and found that they have 100% of the market for people who buy computers from companies named Apple.

Congratulations Macaday, your favorite platform now has 100% market share.

Serge: I know what it is, being one myself.

The point is that after all 94% did not buy a Macintosh computer and after all the afford made by Apple for me it is disappointing.
Wonder why ?

Funny how fanboys wank and gurgle over every half percent increase in Apple US market share, yet when faced with the comment that Microsoft has 95% of the market claim that market share is not a measure of anything.

Wow, look at the Acer surge (168%). Any speculators out there care to explain why this is happening?

@RealityDistortionField

your mama's a fanboy.

I'm kidding. Seriously, though, I find it equally funny how Windows apologists still manage to pull the "95% of the market" claim out of their butts like that's something to really be proud of. I guess all of those ATM machines and checkout counters make you guys feel pretty special.

I guess the 95% desktop number makes MS and its fanboy lemmings feel good because they're getting their a**es kicked in every other electronics sector they try to compete in:

Apple in the digital music space
Symbian (and soon to be Apple) in the mobile phone OS space
Sony and Nintendo in the game console space

I personally don't care if Apple ever gets above 10% market share: at least it's still the top 10%.

Who gives a rats butt, as long as Apple is healthy and continues to make superior products, and software the Microsuck world can eat a big one.

Why, sanctions have done such a wonderful job so far, haven't they? They have made the mad sane and changed Islam from a religion of pieces into a religion of peace!

I'm more than happy for Microsoft and it's blinkered followers to exclaim they have any % they want.

The reality is that a majority of that share is worth very little to anybody. In fact, it can be a complete liability, because it is responsible for all the billions of spam we have to deal with and other spambot activity.

Windows - mostly for numbskulls and dumb terminals who don't or can't know better.

@RoadWarrior:
I guess it's the fact that they're good at laptops. In the European 'lower-mid-price section', they drop the unnecessary last-but-one MS Office you throw off that things' HD faster than anyone can download OpenOffice and really give you better hardware than Dell or HP do, at least if you like AMD's good old "we'll really go dual-core for consumers next year" processors.
Still, if I have to go PC, it'll always be HP. At least I don't have to check every piece of hardware on it for Linux-compatibility, and I get the better PC out there.
BTW, When will Apple FINALLY build a consumer tower starting at about €1000? They're really missing out in Europe because of that. We rather tend to upgrade computers a little before we declare them antiquated...

@Dolita

"MDN seems to overlook Acer's growth rate.
With its 163,8% growth and just 0,4% market share difference to Gateway and Apple, it looks more likely that next year the top 4 would be: HP - Dell - Acer - Apple"

Okay, my math skills suck, but the concept is sound. Follow this logic:

0.8% would double Acer's market share. The smaller a company is, the larger the perceived growth rate.

Jack's lemonade stand had 10 customers. This summer that increased to 20. Jack saw 200% increase.

Jill's lemonade stand had 1000 customers. This summer that increased to 1200. Jill only had a 20% increase.

Yeah, I know. I looked that over again. Like I said. My math skills suck.

But I still say the concept works.

Kit-N, did you look at those numbers?

This isn't like the 10 vs 1,000 lemonade customers..

From GTW through Acer, it's pretty close.

While GTW is going down (at least this year) it isn't clear whether Acer and Toshiba will continue their torrid growth or not, or for that matter, Apple's more sedate growth (in comparison).

If Apple grows again by 26%, they would have 1.210 Million in sales.

If Toshiba's growth slowed to two thirds (33.33%), they would have 1.201 million in sales.

And if Acer slowed to half it's growth (82%), they would have 1.616 million in sales.

We don't know what's going to happen, but that's a reasonable assumption.

It could be worse.

"This isn't like the 10 vs 1,000 lemonade customers.."

True, Acer and Toshiba are racing to overtake Apple. But when you drink just one cup of Apple flavored Kool Aid, you get to ignore the obvious.

"The reality is that a majority of that share is worth very little to anybody. In fact, it can be a complete liability, "

Except in the real world, where it's a good thing.