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YESSS !!!! I LOVE THIS !!!! Let's see them in the mac pro too !!!! YESSSS !!!! Thank you MDN !!!

Oct 20, 08 - 10:09 pm Comment from: Cubert

The processor industry should be outraged! Just where in the world are the fatherboards in all of this?!?!?

Oo Yeah!!!! NVidia is the latest puppet of Apple!!! First Intel, now Nvidia.... next Adobe then Microsoft...

That would be a nice card to put in my 8-core Mac Pro.

16+8 cores - Sweet !!!

To anyone that thinks this is a great idea for a Mac Pro: WHY?!

I don't know about you guys, but I'm outraged by the lack of quality video cards in the Mac Pro. Why is a Radeon 2600 an option in a $2800 computer? Why is an 8800GT the only remotely solid choice for performance in games? Both of those cards are two generations old now, and Apple needs to get their shit together.

The problem here isn't that the Mac Pros are overpriced, or even that the video cards are out of date... it's that they're overpriced AND out of date at the same time. There's no excuse for mediocre hardware in such an expensive computer, and it's about time Apple gave people real options like the Radeon 4800 series or the GT200 series.

These low-end Nvidia chips are only a viable option for the cheapest consumer machines. I could see them being the standard on a computer like the Mac Mini or the cheapest iMac, but nothing more.

That's fine, but those DESKTOP chipsets are made for DESKTOP cpus (socket LGA775). Until now, Apple used mobile cpus in the iMac. Unless they want to add a couple of more noisy fans in the iMac, I don't think Apple will switch to DESKTOP cpus in the iMac.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't mind if Apple started to make a real DESKTOP computer out of DESKTOP cpus and chipsets (nvidia or Intel).

Oct 20, 08 - 11:44 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

Dunno what all the above means

But sounds like it should be ...

Damn Snappy™

Oct 21, 08 - 12:18 am Comment from: ken1w

Sounds nice...

I guess I'm a bit behind the video technology bleeding edge, but the "ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB GDDR3 SDRAM" in my iMac seems more than adequate for the stuff I do. I don't need any (more) excuses for buying and playing games.

Not for the iMac which might use the dedicated graphics card that is in the MacBook Pro, but for the Mac mini that does use the integrated graphics card and hasn't been updated in a long time?

Could one, finally, expect to see a decent (power AND price) NVidia Graphic Card coming into a Mac Pro rev1 ?

what greatcaffeine said ^^^

People opting for the 'high end' card in a Mac Pro either want better acceleration for pro graphics apps or want gaming performance. Either way, having anything other than the option of a card that was top of the range 6 months ago is weak, but to have a card that's as out of date as the current options is just ridiculous.

Hm. Doesn't say anything about miniDisplayPort compatibility (although it notably mentions DVI and HDMI). Unless they have an Apple version, this doesn't fit with what Steve said at the last keynote.

Grippier!

"Why is an 8800GT the only remotely solid choice for performance in games?"

I don't think the above comment is true... as far as I'm aware - and just checking the Apple website - I believe the NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB is the best option on offer, for a MacPro.

I'm not a big gamer, but I'm guessing a 1.5GB graphics chip isn't too bad, right?

@puppets

I see it the same way. Apple is the only company that makes other companies to change.

No mention of DisplayPort support, which Apple seems to be pursuing. Just sayin'.

Oct 21, 08 - 10:22 am Comment from: Frank

@BC Kelly

"You betcha!"

Kidding aside, all this hardware sounds great but hopefully NVidia has also improved their drivers and related software. I forget which card model at the time which could not play DVD without tripping up while ATI cards had no problem.

Oct 21, 08 - 10:51 am Comment from: rdbvideo

I wish they would spend a little time and money getting the drivers right for the 8800GT. I spent $200 extra on my MacPro and find out I'm actually running slower in Final Cut Studio (than with the basic installed card).

Fix your existing problems first!

Oct 21, 08 - 12:16 pm Comment from: XLM

@ Huey Long
"I don't think the above comment is true... as far as I'm aware - and just checking the Apple website - I believe the NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB is the best option on offer, for a MacPro.

I'm not a big gamer, but I'm guessing a 1.5GB graphics chip isn't too bad, right?"

You're making the same mistake that most people do. VRAM does not equal capability. The #1 factor is the GPU, VRAM is secondary.

While true, the Quadro is a very strong card, it is not aimed at gamers, it is aimed at the Scientific and 3D modeling professionals. The gaming card (last years 8800GT) is a slightly slower clocked and lesser VRAM version of it. The GPU is the same.

As for this announcement, anyone getting excited for this in a MacPro tower should ask your selves why. All this is is an uber value priced integrated chip that doesn't completely suck at the moment.

If you are excited at it's "performance" you should be more excited for this GPU's bigger and badder siblings like the 9600 or 9800, or better yet, the current GPUs GTX 260 and GTX 280.

Give it 6 months to a year to be completely overshadowed and thrown in the bin beside the old Intel integrated chips.

XLM is correct, anything from NVIDIA's 9000 range is now old news. On the PC side they've already moved to the new platform.

But a 9400 or 9600 anything is just midrange. 9800 and up are what should be in a $3000 computer.

For Macs to be so famous for graphics it kills me that we are actually so far behind that a midrange offering gets us so excited...

“For Macs to be so famous for graphics it kills me that we are actually so far behind that a midrange offering gets us so excited...”

It’s the G5 Power PC chip that makes Apple computers better at graphics than slow intel PCs. It doesn’t matter what graphics card you have.

Ohh hang on a second…….. never mind.