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Jul 03, 09 - 09:52 am Comment from: ericdano

How about Verizon tries a "we'll pay you to use it" thing instead?

Jul 03, 09 - 09:53 am Comment from: twilightmoon

How about a get one free, get 3 free promo?

Jul 03, 09 - 09:54 am Comment from: twilightmoon

That said I was a little surprised Apple didn't manage to get a version of the iPhone down to "free" with subsidy plan. Maybe next year.

Jul 03, 09 - 10:00 am Comment from: carsonchang

There's a verb/agreement error in the second line of Mr. Gruman's article. He may want to see if he can find a grammar app on that iPhone he tested.

Why, yes, "they does"!

RIM should launch a series of ads called "Samrtphone Hunters." Could work for them....

Jul 03, 09 - 10:15 am Comment from: MacBliss

He blatantly forgot that with 3.0 the new iPhone,and the 3G, can indeed be remotely WIPED clean through MobileMe "Find my phone" feature. Yes it is a feature attached to MobileMe more than the phone itself, but it is available to enterprises.

Jul 03, 09 - 10:25 am Comment from: qka

To corrupt an old advertising jingle,

Bain de Sangre for that Cupertino tanning

Jul 03, 09 - 10:31 am Comment from: silverhawk

Like Palm, Nokia and RIM, et al., if you stop innovating you will lose your place in line. They were all fine at what they did, at one point in time. Please Apple, just keep on innovating!

I actually think Apple's intent to sell the iphone to Verizon was a ploy, and AT&T;was chosen from day one. Wouls Apple really go with a known number two carrier? Or a number three like Sprint?

@ carsonchange

There's a verb/agreement error in the second line of Mr. Gruman's article. He may want to see if he can find a grammar app on that iPhone he tested.

If the author were speaking of each enhancement individually you would be correct, but if he means the enhancements collectively, then you in error. I suspect he meant the latter.

Its time for a 75% off clearance on all Blackberries... BoyGenius has a good piece on this as well.

Jul 03, 09 - 11:08 am Comment from: Brau

Whaddya expect from a device named after a thorny bramble? They've only proliferated because there's been nothing better and nobody's cared enough to seed something really good, that is until Apple came along. Now the ugly thorns are showing. This is the technical second review I've read that basically calls the BB (even the hallowed Bold) a dinosaur in comparison to the latest 3.0 iPhone OS at what the BB is supposed to be great at ... corporate email. If you are on RIM's R&D;team, the words "I was shocked to discover how bad an e-mail client the BlackBerry is compared to the iPhone" have got to cause a lot of sleepless nights.

Jul 03, 09 - 11:12 am Comment from: Jubei

Dirt? Its time to use cement!

Just seeing of one thread was closed down or if we're being banned by IP?

Apparently just the one thread.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. ... death to the Blackberry!! It is a horrible phone in ALL respects that I am forced to carry for my job. Thankfully I have an iPhone for my personal phone. A dream to use. Hands down the best phone I ever had.

Jul 03, 09 - 12:54 pm Comment from: macslut

"The iPhone is light-years ahead of the BlackBerry on almost every count. RIM should be ashamed."

To be fair, when a company dominates or becomes entrenched in a market that hasn't matured yet and is heavily dependent on technological evolution, said company is likely to develop legacy issues that are key to the niche segment of early adopters.

In other words, when the Blackberry was the go-to device for smartphones, long before the iPhone, there was no ability to make something like the iPhone (not enough power, storage, bandwidth, resolution, etc...), so RIM has to develop the Blackberry with a limited set of features and had to make sure those features worked as best as they could at the time.

So as a phone, texting and email, Blackberry has really hashed out all the subtleties, but in doing so, they're locked themselves into that niche in many ways while not developing many of what Apple had, because Apple has long been a media systems and delivery company that could leverage OS X, iTunes, the iTunes store, and everything else to strike at just the right time when the market evolved from phone/text/email, to a smartphone being everything that the iPhone provides today.

Of course, this isn't to say that the Blackberry can't do more than phone/text/email...as they have for years, but rather RIM is ill-equipped to evolve the platform with the same level of user experience.

Jul 03, 09 - 01:12 pm Comment from: heartbreak

If Verizon is still getting the Crack-Scratch Pre, they should throw in a free one to sweeten the pot even more.

This is the same old BS from this site. Why is it that every time Apple sells a new iPhone, that Blackberry sales increase? Apple is doing awesome with the iPhone, but so is RIM with their Blackberry. MDN doesn't have a clue about anything to keep on this "bloodbath" mantra for RIM. They'll do just fine.

Jul 03, 09 - 03:20 pm Comment from: Chas

Bloodbath indeed!

The iPhone/touch is so far ahead it isn't funny.

=:~)

Jul 03, 09 - 05:02 pm Comment from: Olmecmystic

@joketime:

If RIM doesn't feel Apple breathing down their necks, it's only because they're pretending not to. The iPhone is getting incrementally better with each iteration. Can BB say that?

It's only a matter of time before the iPhone is eating BB's enterprise lunch. Accept it.

Peace.
Olmecmystic

Jul 03, 09 - 06:58 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

RIM's biggest miscalculation is not implementing Windows Mobile in their devices. MAC is justifiably terrified of Redmond's bold push into the mobile space with their innovative and revolutionary Windows Mobile. Naturally you can play WMA files in Windows Mobile and that's the killer app that has MAC shaking in their boots.

C'mon RIM, license Windows Mobile or it will be RIP. Nobody who licensed Windows or partnered with Microsoft was ever sorry. Simple as that.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Jul 03, 09 - 09:52 pm Comment from: MobileAdmin

Until Apple gets a BES type solution or Microsoft supports them with Mobile Device manager RIM will continue to control the larger enterprise where security matters.

Sure they have remote wipe and a password policy and now with their barely useful configuration manager you can lock down the camera. Wonderful only 180+ things to go to equal the level of control BES provides against Blackberry.

The encryption is a hodgepodge approach limited to only the 3GS and backends to iTunes - wonderful just what any enterprise wants. Apple doesn't understand enterprise unless you work at google or some small artsy boutique where they don't understand data protection regulations, until they get sued for a breach and then have to rethink whatever mobile "strategy" they might have.

Jul 04, 09 - 05:15 am Comment from: BlackWolf

ZuneTang, were you an apple, I would scub off your wax in the sink with the "special" spray, and eat all but your core, and stem.

Keep up the good work.