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And I am running 10.5 on my 1 ghz 12 inch power book with 1.25gbs ram, 32mb vram, and 5,200 rpm hd.... and it's smooooth..

Can't do that with Vista.

Thanks Derin!

Dad said you get a free pass now...

There once was a boy named “Microsoft”. He loved a girl named “Customer”.

Unfortunately, before the boy could cement a relationship with the girl, he came into competition for her affection with other boys.

He could choose to make himself attractive and likeable to the girl, or he could chose to undermine his competition. Microsoft chose to “do in” the competition. Nearly every suitor for Customer was in one way or another, hounded, spied on, undermined, bought out, beat up, etc. This left Customer with little choice if she wanted a life that included a boy. It didn’t make her like the boy any better, but he was just about the only one left in town.

This lukewarm relationship went on for years, with a lack of affection, but little choice for Customer.

Years went buy and the demographics of the town changed. More boys suddenly appeared and Customer had some options. She didn’t need to spend time with Microsoft if she didn’t want to. She dated around and found she liked other boys better. They treated her better, took better care of themselves, and did a better job of keeping their promises to her.

Customer was very desirable, and the new boys were much better suitors than Microsoft. Customer began to see that Microsoft didn’t have so much to offer after all, but the new boys did. In fact Microsoft was often rough around the edges and did strange things. The new boys seemed more refined and polished, which Customer appreciated.

Sometimes, Customer was even irritated at the self serving behavior of Microsoft as he tried to undermine the other boys and cause them to lose their jobs or businesses so they couldn’t court Customer. He was arrested and fined several times for his bad behavior.

As Customer grew older, she began to realize that Microsoft really wasn’t for her, she spent less and less time with him and more time with the other boys in town. Microsoft retired from his efforts to court Customer, but instead of leaving well enough alone, he bestowed the honor of courting Customer to his cousin. To some it was unclear why he would do this, but others suspected the cousin knew of Microsoft’s improper activities in the past, and leveraged his way to be Customers new suitor as Microsoft’s flames waned in the night for Customer.

The cousin continued to court Customer, but with little success. Large boxes of candy and roses were nice occasionally, but underneath, she found no connection with the soulless cousin. In time, as she learned that all boys weren’t like Microsoft or his cousin, someone else became the apple of her eye.

Jun 25, 08 - 06:09 pm Comment from: MCCFR

So that's a whole load of systems where the IT staff will have to up/down/sidegrade to XP when they start being forced to buy systems with Vista pre-installed.

I do hope Microsoft will be honest in their sales reporting and not try to report such systems as Vista sales. We all know how important it is for companies to provide information to their shareholders that enables them to make informed investment decisions.

Jun 25, 08 - 06:13 pm Comment from: shen

I wonder what microsoft internal (including what emploies use at home) adoption rate is?

Jun 25, 08 - 06:14 pm Comment from: amyhre

Touching story, but you forgot the part about how Microsoft seemed to almost exclusively demand anal sex to prove her loyalty. Other than that, it's pretty good.

Jun 25, 08 - 06:23 pm Comment from: Jubei

Wow, I love how MDN sticks that list of related articles. I should just copy that list and the next time I get a silly MS "bend over and do what your wish MS Masters" spout FUD about the Mac, I can flood him/her with that list....

With no sign of viable Vista in the foreseeable future, the next step for Intel is to gradually migrate its 80K employee's on to the more advanced Mac OS X.

Now that Bills cleared his desk and gone, I wonder how many more of these 'no compelling case for adopting Vista' stories (and others openly dissing M$) will 'leak' out?

I can imagine some companies not wanting to openly upset Bill, but hold no loyalty to, or fear of upsetting Money Boy Balmer.

Jun 25, 08 - 07:26 pm Comment from: MacDave

@Lee

Freaking beauty mate. <sob, sniff>

Jun 25, 08 - 07:54 pm Comment from: MacSmiley

Good'un, Lee. I've preserved your story for all posterity in my tumblelog.

Oh! Snap!
What a shot to the Vistas.

If true, Intel just told it's biggest source of $ (crappy machines running winblows) you are no longer relevant.

Monkey Boy must be sacrificing flunkies by the score to the great 'I no longer matter' gods

If you think Vista is bad, you should have to suffer through MS Office 2007! Our office "upgraded" to Office '07 from Office '03 two weeks ago and it's almost enough to make me want to go find another job.

Jun 25, 08 - 08:39 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

The thing is, we'll be hearing more and more stories like this as time goes on. The fact that it's Intel makes it all the more satisfying.

So, let's figure that Windows 7… or whatever snappy thing they'll call it… will be released, optimistically in 3 years.
Add another 1 to 2 years to that for "full" corporate adoption and that ends up being around 5 years from today.
XP is 7 or 8 years old now?

So in 4 or 5 years, a huge chunk of business… and you can bet government computing… will STILL be done on an operating system that'll be over TEN years old! That's pathetic.

I can't imagine what Apple will be doing in 5 years!

I love how Windoze sufferers are passing on Vista saying they'll wait for the next version of Windoze. That means a Decade will have passed them by. YIKES

Lovin life and Mac OS X

Intel didn't do anything to harm itself by not adopting Vista. Remember, Intel doesn't sell computers with Vista preinstalled, it just sells processors.

Intel hitched it's fate to Apple, and is reaping the benefits of Apple's hands-on approach to designing processors and other chips for its Macs (see MacBook Air). Intel will be just fine, because AMD doesn't seem to be able to get out of its own way to mount a real challenge, and because Intel is working with Apple to innovate, not just wait to see what the market does and then react.

Jun 25, 08 - 09:01 pm Comment from: DogGone

Hey Lee,

Good story - have you got her number? I have a 15 inch beauty that she won't be able to say no to!

Jun 25, 08 - 09:02 pm Comment from: ken1w

I feel bad for consumers buying new (non-Apple) computers and having no choice but Vista pre-installed. NOT...

"because Intel is working with Apple to innovate, not just wait to see what the market does and then react."

How does that fit with the reality that on the day Intel launches a new processor every major PC company announces they are shipping a machine with it, yet Apple takes 3-6 months to use it, and by then Intel is almost ready to launch an enhanced version?

Apple is always about a half a generation behind. To move out of that follower role, they need to start introducing new machines when new processors are released, not months later.

The same applies to new graphics accelerators.

Jun 25, 08 - 09:30 pm Comment from: shen

"Good story - have you got her number? I have a 15 inch beauty that she won't be able to say no to!"

15? wow....

mine is only 4.5 inches.....

....but it is multi-touch!

Jun 25, 08 - 10:36 pm Comment from: Think

@ Get Real

The processor and logic board for the MacBook Air was an Intel/Apple design that they did together.

Anyone else get that chip first?

Jun 25, 08 - 11:34 pm Comment from: HMCIV

I wonder what lucky lottery winners at Intel got Vista Machines. Next time just take a dump on my mouse.

So Vista is installed on over 140 million machines worldwide. Really!!?? Last November in the midst of Leopard installation problems I bought and Intel Mac with Leopard installed. I paid extra to have Leopard trashed and Tiger installed. Now according to Apple's sales' figures I have Leopard installed but when I do an update etc. to Tiger Apple would read it as Tiger.

My point is this, perhaps Microsoft should be quoting other figures as to how many computers have been sold in a given period and then match it up to what is actually installed on the latest computers. To me that would be a more accurate set of figures than just quoting the computers sold with Vista installed

Jun 26, 08 - 04:44 am Comment from: British Mac Head

Great story Lee but who is Microsoft's cousin?
Am I missing something here. Is Microsoft Basher Bill and his cousin Freaky Fester?

Again. Great until you lost me with the cousin bit dude

Jun 26, 08 - 06:16 am Comment from: Cubert

@amyhre,

"Touching story, but you forgot the part about how Microsoft seemed to almost exclusively demand anal sex to prove her loyalty. Other than that, it's pretty good."

What's wrong with that???

Jun 26, 08 - 06:24 am Comment from: Cubert

"An Intel spokesman said the company was testing and deploying Vista in certain departments"

That's the equivalent of high school detention at Intel.

There are three engineers in a car; an electrical engineer, a chemical engineer and a Microsoft engineer.

Suddenly the car just stops by the side of the road, and the three engineers look at each other wondering what could be wrong.
The electrical engineer suggests stripping down the electronics of the car and trying to trace where a fault might have occurred.
The chemical engineeer, not knowing much about cars, suggests that maybe the fuel is becoming emulsified and getting blocked somewhere.
Then, the Microsoft engineer, not knowing much about anything, comes up with a suggestion, "Why don`t we close all the windows, get out, get back in, open the windows again, and maybe it`ll work !?"

Intel's still choosing XP over OS X, right?

Jun 26, 08 - 09:12 am Comment from: Tommy Boy

@Walter Chillum: Downgraded to Tiger? HUh? Why?

Jun 26, 08 - 09:14 am Comment from: Mr. Peabody

@haha,

Cute...

@ha, ha, ha,

Yup. What's up with that? I mean it's interesting that VISTA's suckage is confirmed by the likes of Intel, but the unwillingness to send MS packing altogether is... well - weird. And I ask yet again, does anyone, especially in large corporations, understand that they simply do not have to use MS Windows - Or any version of it? Anyone?

Jun 26, 08 - 09:22 am Comment from: Ampar

To Cubert:

"What's wrong with that???"

The safety word is "cancel" but Microsoft only hears "allow".

Jun 26, 08 - 09:51 am Comment from: NCIceman

Intel better duck, Monkey Boy is going to toss a chair! Or threaten to move to the cell processor. Wouldn't that be ironic...

I guess Intel knows that after Snow Leopard their options will be different.

My take on Snow Leopard is it is part of the preparations for licensing Mac OS X.

Jun 26, 08 - 09:59 am Comment from: Mr. Peabody

@NCIceman,

No worries there, MS doesn't have the sense innovation or the willingness to start from scratch.

Geir Nøklebye,

"I guess Intel knows that after Snow Leopard their options will be different."

Really, how?

"My take on Snow Leopard is it is part of the preparations for licensing Mac OS X."

Explain.

To all of you dreamers that expect Apple to license OS X.

Why license OS X out to some HP to put in some computer that the HP has manufactured in the orient by a contractor? You would then have that HP's fake Macs made one line over from the line making Genuine Macs.

Why have a middleman or two sucking up meagre profits? Why not just have a wholly owned subsidiary market cheap Macs under a different brand name?

Crapple Computers. Truth in advertising as well.

Geir Nøklebye

Is that an anagram for something rude?

I too would like to hear how SL will be licensed.

And to the Waldo that downgraded to Tiger.
You are one of 23 people that did that.

Next subject.

I have just 'upgraded' to Office 2008 for Mac - Yet another pig in lipstick!

Jun 26, 08 - 01:36 pm Comment from: derekcurrie

Apart from the bombshell that Intel is skipping Vista, the other critical information in the NY Times article is their last paragraph. To quote:

"Meanwhile, the Microsoft operating system engine chugs on, phasing out the old and proclaiming the new. The company reiterated this week that, despite some customer protests, it would halt shipments of the previous version of Windows, XP, to retail stores and stop most licensing of XP to PC makers next week. Microsoft also announced that the next version of its operating system, Windows 7, is scheduled to go on sale in January 2010."

Translation:

I) Next week an uproar from bizness will begin as they discover that:
A) There is no way to buy an XP box.
B) There is no way to buy XP for a down/side grade to XP for the Vista boxes they are forced to buy.
C) They are going to have to use XP software cracks if they still want to use XP on new PC hardware.

II) Next week will begin a massive XP cracking black market.

III) Next month M$ will get the clue that there is a massive XP cracking black market. They will whine and moan the shake their spiked clubs, but they will be powerless to stop it.

IV) Next week M$ will begin showing a Vista sale for every new PC purchased. Hurray, lots of Vista sales on paper, which have no relationship to the actual number of copies of Vista running on PCs due to the XP cracking black market.

V) By the end of 2008 M$ will get the clue that in order for them to reduce the XP cracking black market and milk their customers for every possible penny, they will have to put XP back on sale again, but only as a shelf boxed version.

VI) In the interim, the difficulty and criminality required to obtain and install XP after it's burial date will further inspire sales of ever superior, less expensive (when considering Return on Investment and Total Cost of Ownership) Mac hardware and operating system.

VII) The movement to tip PCs into dumpsters and replace them with Macs will continue. Copies of XP from the discarded PCs will be saved and installed on the new Macs, run in either BootCamp or virtualization via Parallels or VMWare. Due to the overall rejection of Vista by the market, sales of Vista to Mac users will be flat. Microsoft will get the clue about this phenomenon never.

So predict I.
(And, BTW, I have a much better record at successful predictions that Bill Gates every will. So pay me to write a book already! It shall be called "Paving Over The Road Ahead").

;-D

I was going to add that I predict everyone will laugh their backsides off when they read "Windows 7, is scheduled to go on sale in January 2010". But that's too DUH to bother.

Jun 26, 08 - 02:08 pm Comment from: derekcurrie

Clue to those who think 'OS X' will ever be licensed to another hardware manufacturer or tossed into a generic PC compatible form and sold off the shelf:

That concept died with Power Computing and the moronic, total financial failure of a licensing program Apple had for 3rd party PowerPCs.

Figure it out: All the pundits who have been ranting that Apple should license the Mac OS have been WRONG since FOREVER.

1) Apple would obviously lose money on the deal, as happened previously. Apple's big profits were, are and forever shall be on HARDWARE running their superior software.

2) Only a dope would want to buy a NON-STANDARDIZED POS PC and throw OS X on it with the expectation that the OS would actually work perfectly. Forget it. Apple's incredible asset is the fact that they marry their hardware with their software. There are no chaotic variables messing over the Mac hardware standard. As has ever been said:

Mac Just Work.

That would NOT be true if OS X was licensed to gawd-knows-what PC hardware. Everyone who moved over to NeXT to Apple knows this. When Apple first distributed NeXTStep/OpenStep to Mac developers in a preview called 'Rhapsody', they provided that PC hardware compatibility booklet NeXT had put together for their OS. It was at least 80 pages long with each page crammed full of specific PC hardware configurations with which NeXTStep/OpenStep was compatible. So, consider this:

1) How much money and time was required to test all those PC configurations? (Remember folks: THERE IS NO PC HARDWARE STANDARD!)

2) How much money and time was wasted trying to provide technical support to NeXT customers trying to run their OS on gawd-knows-what PC hardware?

3) How far will Apple customer satisfaction plummet when suckers buy a gawd-knows-what PC box and discover that OS X runs like crap on it?

Anyone remember the Celeron? Does the very thought of it make you cringe? Guess what! Hundreds of thousands of NEW Celeron PCs are still sold every year. And you want OS X to run on that POS of a CPU?

4) Say goodbye to the Mac cost advantage. (Yes kids, the Mac has ALWAYS been cheaper than the PC). Total Cost of Ownership: HIGHER, simply because OSX would be running on the non-standard PC hardware platform. Return On Investment: LOWER again because of the non-standard PC hardware platform. Conclusion: NO advantage buying some cheap crap PC box and running OS X on it. Debate all you like about this point. Have fun. But I will stand correct.

The only people who would gain from licensing OS X for gawd-knows-what PC hardware would be DIY tech geeks. But honestly. If someone is into building their own computer, why would they want to run the easiest operating system on the planet on the thing? What OS would they prefer? They want to things that hard way. They want to learn how the hardware works. They want to learn how the OS works. The DIY OS is LINUX.

Conclusion: Give up. OS X will never be licensed. End of story. As in forever.

Jun 26, 08 - 02:22 pm Comment from: AAPLguy

@ Nick

"I have just 'upgraded' to Office 2008 for Mac - Yet another pig in lipstick!"

Boy, no kidding. What a POS.

"I have just 'upgraded' to Office 2008 for Mac - Yet another pig in lipstick!"

Yet you had enough reasons to want to buy it, which is all that matters to Microsoft.

Jun 26, 08 - 05:27 pm Comment from: AAPLguy

@ One Born Every Minute

The company I work for bought it, not me. But you are right. All that matters to Microsoft IS that they make money, not that their products are easy or enjoyable to use.

AAPLguy,

"All that matters to Microsoft IS that they make money, not that their products are easy or enjoyable to use."

Did you ever think that you never properly learned how to us Windows or were unable to learn? I mean, maybe the learning curve for Windows was a bit too steep for you.

"The processor and logic board for the MacBook Air was an Intel/Apple design that they did together.

Anyone else get that chip first?"

What, the 1.83GHz Merom Core 2 Duo released over a year ago? Yes, just about every company on the planet has a design based on that chip by now. Intel already had the plans on the books to shrink it into a smaller package, they just brought those forward. Apple really had nothing to do with it other than to say that they'd buy some.

"Touching story, but you forgot the part about how Microsoft seemed to almost exclusively demand anal sex to prove her loyalty. Other than that, it's pretty good."

That can't be the case, or most of the OS X user base would have migrated to Vista for that feature alone.

"So Vista is installed on over 140 million machines worldwide. Really!!??"

Really. If you accept MDN's favorite stats site Net Apps as the gawd honest truth for worldwide OS market share, 15% of the world's PCs are running Vista. That equates to about 150 million units. That's actual machines running the OS.

So outside corporate circles, where adoption of a new OS is rightly a slow and cautious process, downgrading to XP must be a much less prevalent activity than you think.