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"A big refresh would clearly be overstating it."
Enough said about Vista.

re: Microsoft...last I checked, they don't buy chips for computers. Thus, they aren't a direct customer of Intel, Apple is.

CRN was interviewing the Enterprise Server VP... Yet Gelsinger seems to know much about the desktop lines and other Apple-Intel projects...

One analyst recently called out Apple's move into the enterprise in '07... Someone come up the with goods: Is Apple working on real-life groupware!? Coupled with some beefy Exchange-battling server solutions?...

So does he mean that the MacBook Pro is coming out with the Duo 2 soon?

The "MacBook Pro" was the last product... no, it was the first. The Mac Pro was the last...

No, Microsoft does not buy chips from Intel, but the number of computers that run Windows on Intel is huge. And, with each more bloated and CPU demanding version of the OS that Microsoft releases, Intel gets to sell more powerful chips to meet the demand.

Funny how he says the new GUI is the feature to make consumers upgrade. If people really do then they are too stupid for their own good and should be put down.

The "MacBook Pro" was the last product... no, it was the first. The Mac Pro was the last...

unless a revision is on the horizon

wire has it the macbookpro is the last to go over to duo2

THe MacBook Pro WAS the last. The MacBook Pro upgrades were quietly upgraded AFTER the Mac Pros already had duo2s in them.

For whatever its worth my 2 cents on the issue is this: IMHO Intel is thrilled to death to be working with an innovator like Apple who is pushing them after years of working w/ box assemblers who didn't even want to rock the boat, a.k.a. piss off Microsoft by "thinking differently" and "towed the company line." As long as the got a speed increase a couple times a year to push their latest models they were happy. Think about it, in a way Intel has been held back by Microsoft, the Great Whore of Redmond wasn't concerned with innovation, only market share, and innovation could harm market share. As much as I and likely most of you groaned at the infamous ad at the time of the switch to intel: "....trapped in dull little boxes...performing dull little tasks....." there is a strong element of truth there. The Intel/Apple partnership will give the world much more innovation than the IBM/Apple partnership ever did.
That's my opinion for whatever its worth..........

Payback to Microsoft for going to IBM for the XBox. Wouldn't it be sweet if Apple and Intel come out with a console that emulates PS3/XBox/Wii??? Hey, with 80 cores coming in the future, why not???

MW: little. Microsoft is of liitle concern to Intel

"We just finished the birthing."

Good thing. 'Cause I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no baby boards."

(With all due respect to Thelma "Butterfly" McQueen)

Microslop does not have time to get miffed over Apple and Intel doing a little heavy petting, they're too busy getting Zune and Vista to market.

Wow, what a sweet pair that is, makes me tingly all over just thinking about it, kind of like a good case of poison ivy or jock itch.

The second phase was execution and getting products done

This is the part MS had better be concerned about. MS can't even cope with today's technologies, why would Intel give them a crack at tomorrow's?

MS is so utterly clueless it's hilarious.

A great example: Verizon was recently in a pact with MS to do coding for set-top TV media boxes. On at least two occasions, MS failed to deliver their part & slipped into bloatware and delays (gee sound familiar?). Disgusted, Verizon put their own coders to work.. and they finished the jobs in a few months.

It's bad when a goddamned PHONE company out-codes a software giant!

>The "MacBook Pro" was the last product... no, it was the first.

No iMac was the first. Announced jan 2006, available the same month. On the contrary the MacBook Pro was available only a month later ...

re: dial tone,

"...It's bad when a goddamned PHONE company out-codes a software giant!..."

Well, I have no problems with phone companies doing coding, given the fact that the origin of UNIX, was actually coded by a phone company, Bell Labs (then AT&T;).