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These sound like they are going to be incredible chips. I await their arrival.

and sony are stuck with old ibm

hahaha



intel rock !

Love the numbering scheme. Sounds like the old Performa days...

In fact, it reminds me of that sketch in Meaning of Life just before Cleese teaches sex ed when he talks about putting your coat on a hook and various other things.

Maybe I'm just tired?

"Core 2 Extreme"

o.O

Am I the only one that thinks that name sucks?

conroe in particular looks very promising. when jobs said he liked what was on intel's roadmap, i bet he had his eyes on conroe on forward. everyone was bitching about how apple "lied" to its customers by making the switch to intel.

if there's anyone who still believes that, read the following.

when apple, back in the late 90's and early 2000s, was making comparisons of its powerpc chips to intel's pentium ii/iii/4, they weren't lying. in a lot of ways, the ppc was faster than their intel contemporaries, and all that mhz myth stuff was true. look at the athlon 64 for how the mhz myth had NOTHING to do with ppc itself. a64 trounced the pentium 4 in almost every way, and always did so at a much lower clock rate - just as G4s did before pentium 4s became absurdly scaled.

intel made a mistake with the p4. they realize it. notice how all their chips are going to be lower clocked? 3.33 at the highest? the p4 hit 3ghz a few years ago. intel has decided that not only is performance-per-watt important, but, um, so is PERFORMANCE-PER-MHZ.

ibm, on the other hand, did nothing for apple (who cares about such a small customer?).

if apple switched to intel and all intel had to offer was updated pentium 4 cpus, THEN YES, apple would have lied to you. but these new intel chips really do look like they're going to shake things up. core duo is just the beginning.

i really hope new macbooks (non-pro) are coming soon! =)

Core 2 2.

At least they didn't name it: Core, Center, Middle.

The name is almost as bad as these inline ads on this website.

Both terrible and tacky.

yeah, the model numbers aren't that creative. i doubt apple will mention those in their specs - they'll just say "core 2 duo at x.xx ghz."

or maybe apple will do just as they did for motorola/ibm. i mean, how often did apple's spec list say "motorola 7410" or "ibm 750gx"?

G4 was G4, whether a 7400, 7410, or 744x. G3 was G3, not 750 or any such nonsense.

if jobs were at apple in the mid-nineties, 60x based CPUs would have been G2s and 680x0s would have been G1s, perhaps. =)

inversely, if amelio were still head of apple in the late nineties - provided it survived that long - you'd have probably had five-digit model numbers for the G3-based macs. The Power Macintosh 10010, 10050, and 10100 models, or the Performa 10013, 10053, 10055 and 10103. included software was the only difference.

ah, okay, i'm going to bed now...

Core 2 Duo...

Sounds a little redundant, no?

This is great news ... considering that the new chips are pin-compatible with my current Mini, I can drop in a new Merom chip and make that mini fly!!

The name is from the Department of Redundancy Department.

Will dual processor systems be called,

2 Core 2 Duo?

Yes, Core 2 Duo fairly rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

Then, they go completely opaque with calling the portable processors the "T" series, and the desktop processors the "E" series. Something wrong with the mnemonic "P"ortable and "D"esktop series? Duh!

Oh well. Maybe a few more years association with Apple will bring them around.

"What does Joe like?"
"Uh...Body Bag 2"
"Ooo, that's imaginative. I've got more taste in my penis."

As long as they dun name it like ZPH-3640, DC-Tz7850H, those type of thing.

I find Nokia has the most confussing brand in the whole world. like after 6620, 6100, 6180, 6....... I'm confused!

Apple is clear, from G3, G4, G5, next perhaps should rename- F1, F2, F3.... But G is still sounds a lot nicer, like G-force.

What's with PCmakers and modelnumbers? "let's put a bunch of numbers and letters in there and well let's add an extra dash somewhere to make it look |_377!"

Still think they are going to be nice (and expensive) chips though

And then Apple releases new Pro Desktop Machines:

Dual Mac Pro Core Duo
Quad Mac Pro Core Duo

All in a name.

Loooong Wait; the G stood for Generation, a G3 was third generation PPC, G4 fourth etc. (you probably knew this)
What would F stand for?

Magic Word = 'name', as in 'what's in a Name?'

BEATLES LOSE . . . APPLE WINS HA! 10:30 gmt

Hi DCchesterUK,

I read that too! Fantastic news!

(Greetings from Mollington)

Fry your lap twice as fast!

Glad I am waiting on my new mac - Next fall Leopard and something new from Intel = one nice desktop.

It was nice in the old days when you could actually tell by the name what CPU you had. To use an analogy it's something like:

"I just bought a 2006 XXX Super Cruiser, and boy, is it fast!"
"How much horsepower does it have?"
"Well, its got the Firehouse 9000(x-squared m32 S/R 43B4)under the hood."
"Uh, OK, as I was asking,..."

Okay. Where is it? Where's the press release? I just heard on the radio they won the case with Apple Records. Suck it Yoko!

Okay, I found one. It's not much of an article but here it is. Apple Wins Lawsuit

I screwed up. Try this one. Apple Wins Lawsuit

Forget it. I can't get the link right and don't have the time. Just Google it. It's a Marketwatch.com article.

Loooong wait for shortHorn.

Yeah, it's really confussing. Don'y you just love it?

My bad.

Don't you just love it? Hahahahaha, it takes one to know one.

"Dude, that is SOOOO not Xtreme!"

Is Intel Marketing having a midlife crisis?!?

Will Frito Lay sue for trademark infringement, seeing as the both make "chips?"

Cooler Ranch Core 2 Duo XTREME!

sheesh.

Hmmmmmmmm When will Jobs guarantee/ promise that INTEL cracks the 3 gigherz speed barrier? Think INTEL will ever produce a true 64 bit chip?

My first PPC had a fairly obvious 'G3' on each side in big bold letters. Don't know why they thought it was something to brag about and don't know why they thought it might not be blatantly obvious from the totally unique (I know, 'unique' is singular, you can't be 'more' or 'less' 'unique' - less unique being 'unusual' - but this was unique by several standards) case.

Anyway ... I just can't see Apple doing that sort of thing again ... a translucent panel with "C2D" showing through? Nah!

Still, When the tower gets to "C3D" I might be able to sneak a DP in the house, giving my DP 2.3 to my son. Four cores (but still only two busses) would be make "OverkillTwo" (I name my systems - ain't it cute?) a real barn-stormer.

Jeeez, you guys will whine about anything. Who cares about the name, call them Abbot and Costello for all I care, just as long as they run fast!

agreed with "just passing through". although i made the joke about the model numbers last night, i don't really care what they're called because they're gonna kick ass. =)

and a friendly retort to the comment above about intel hitting 3ghz... the only reason that was ever a big deal to apple or anyone else is because intel did it (using a rather shady technique to scale their pentium 4 up super high). ghz just don't matter as much as they used to.

Core 2 Duos sounds redundant. Unless it means 2X2=4 core? May be Intel should name the new chip Core duo part deux, just like the movie ‘Hotshot part deux”.

A stupid name for an average CPU which will prove to be a total loser as time - and Intel's chipset/FSB limitations - unfold.

Better get used to permanent second place status, fanbois. Cause that's where Apple's positioned itself on the computer front.

If they weren't going to go with AMD, Apple would have been better off commissioning IBM to build what they wanted (or providing PA Semiconductor VC funding) on the PPC side. They've got the better OS, but hardware limitations are going to erase outright performance advantages in the future.

So Sorry!