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iPhone 1.1.3: apps no longer run as root; iPhone ready for official installable apps
Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:04 PM EST

"So I've had the chance to examine the 1.1.3 firmware on a deeper level (using a technique not developed by me and which I can't release so don't ask) and have noticed some interesting changes behind the scenes that are quite blogworthy," Nate True writes for cre.ations.net.

- SpringBoard no longer needs to be modified (via SummerBoard) in order to show extra applications in the /Applications folder.
- All applications now run as the user 'mobile' instead of as root.
- Preferences are now stored in /var/mobile rather than in /var/root.


"What does this all mean? I'll tell you what it means," True writes. "The iPhone 1.1.3 firmware is ready for official installable applications."

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "Too Hot!" for the heads up.]

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Jan 22, 08 - 11:07 pm Comment from: Tom Strong

Got root?

Jan 22, 08 - 11:17 pm Comment from: ericdano

Let the slaughter of Windows Mobile begin

Jan 22, 08 - 11:26 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

NO CHANCE!

-S.Ballmer

Jan 22, 08 - 11:44 pm Comment from: Re ChrissyOne

Ballmer: no chance!

But the iPhone (not even counting the iPod T) grabbed more market than all Windows Mobile machines combined, even before the platform opened up with an SDK.

Ballmer: most expensive phone in the world!

But it's one of the cheapest smartphones when you match storage and plans, and other phones have cost a lot more for ages. Then the iPhone price dropped even lower!

Ballmer: nobody wants it because it has a touchscreen and not a keyboard.

But now Microsoft is showing off iPhone-clone vaporware as the "future"--with a touch keyboard ripped straight from the iPhone. Enjoy that in 2011 if ever.

Jan 22, 08 - 11:48 pm Comment from: shawnpetriw

Do you think they could ever offer multiple users? Multiple phone numbers?

Jan 22, 08 - 11:52 pm Comment from: willyboy

@Tom Strong

That would make a killer t-shirt!

Jan 22, 08 - 11:54 pm Comment from: Peter

"But the iPhone (not even counting the iPod T) grabbed more market than all Windows Mobile machines combined."

Uh...I'm not sure about that one. Got a reference?

Jan 22, 08 - 11:56 pm Comment from: R2

I've been looking forward to the SDK in February more than Macworld ever since it was announced.

Jan 23, 08 - 12:14 am Comment from: ericanal

How about Boot Camp for iPhone so I can run Windows Mobile applications?

Jan 23, 08 - 12:16 am Comment from: Snapper

copy and paste, copy and paste, copy and paste and search.
MagicWord; where is it?

If you build it they will come.

Jan 23, 08 - 12:31 am Comment from: izod

@ Peter

Here's the reference "Re ChrissyOne" might have been citing:

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/15797/

Jan 23, 08 - 12:33 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Peter

It's true.

Jan 23, 08 - 01:16 am Comment from: yet another steve via iPodDailyNews

Meanwhile Wall Street is all focused on ipod unit growth... they're thinking shuffles where we're watching the dawn on a freaking new platform.

Just pissed I bought more at $150 when they'll be on offer for $130 tomorrow.

But Apple is doing exactly what I thought they would... leveraging the ipod into a pocket sized mobile wireless platform. The possibilities are almost beyond comprehension. The killer apps are yet to be created. It is 1984 all over again.

Jan 23, 08 - 02:18 am Comment from: Toys

"The possibilities are almost beyond comprehension."

True but today it's just a iPodCellphone with a slow data connection.

If you want to get real work done you need a Windows Mobile phone or a Blackberry.

Jan 23, 08 - 02:19 am Comment from: ZuneTang

Hey, y'all, how you?

Me want iPhone...

Jan 23, 08 - 02:45 am Comment from: wyliekyote

@ Toys

Slow data connection?!

OK... I tested that. My iPhone (at&t;) vs 2 Blackberry Perls (t-mobile and verison)

Guess what. On EDGE, I beat loading the same website (apple.com of course, and then nytimes..) by at least double... and we all had great signal strength...

Blew them out of the water. My friends that is. And the phones.
Winblows Mobile or RIM? Heee. Not a chance. And you know what else my friends all said?

"Jesus, that's a freaking sweet browser."

Anyone else try and compare web loading vs other phones/smartphones?!

Jan 23, 08 - 02:55 am Comment from: Meester Roboto

Firmware 1.1.1 supports the ability to show extra applications in the application folder. That feature has been here for a while and not new. Well not new to people who added third party applications.

Jan 23, 08 - 03:09 am Comment from: @DumbKyote

"Guess what. On EDGE, I beat loading the same website"

Guess what, the pearl is a slow useless 2G device like the iPhone, but at least it does corporate mail.

Jan 23, 08 - 03:55 am Comment from: colehilling

I have here a software site may be helpful to you. Hope that we can become friends.
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http://www.vcao.net

Jan 23, 08 - 04:17 am Comment from: @ @DumbKyote

Corporate mail?

Ahhhhh, you mean the Exchange Server that my iPhone is hooked up to?

Enable IMAP on the Exchange Server, game over.

Jan 23, 08 - 04:26 am Comment from: ibookboyuk

Hey, Zune Tang. I hope the real Tang registered, as I value your comments here.

Take care.

Jan 23, 08 - 06:33 am Comment from: Old Mac Man

iPhone apps no longer run as root?

Well that was quite stupid to do to begin with.

Along with the asinine glossy screens.

But I still love Apple anyway, just not falling in love with everything they make anymore.

I've noticed that Windows, with all it's problems, sort of captivates you with the Stockholm Syndrome Effect. It just begs one to test their "geek skill" to be able to figure it out.

Jan 23, 08 - 07:10 am Comment from: newsman

After you tested your geek skill in how to figure it out, you will be completely overwhelmed with how shoddy it is. I am not even talking about the viruses, I just mean using the p.o.s. every single day. Although I hear Vista finally brought the malware under control. I am surprised more people don't upgrade just for that.

Jan 23, 08 - 07:43 am Comment from: Old Mac Man

@ newsman

I agree Windows is a royal piece of shit of a OS, the interface between programs is totally different and illogical.

Constant Windows and virus updates finds more crap nearly everyday. Just when one thinks their machine is clean, it's infected again.

I set up a wireless router yesterday, didn't even run the software on the Windows box, instead using my MacBook Pro to enter the password and settings because I'm almost sure there is a keystroke logger or two buried in the shit of OS called Windows.

But on the other hand it keeps me busy, keeps me needed for my new found Windows geek skills.

I'm learning Windows because Apple is forcing a glossy screen only option upon it's limited computer line.

I've realized I'm smart enough to keep Windows secure and also enjoy the benefits of being able to chose my own hardware choice, instead of Apple dictating it for me.

Am I leaving the "cult"? No, just opening up my hardware options since Apple is closing theirs and opening the door to becoming a PC vendor if Mac OS X fails to increase in market share.

But since it is...I don't know, Apple itself seems to be unsure and misguided. So I better learn Windows as a backup.

Jan 23, 08 - 08:29 am Comment from: Bartsimpsonhead

Looks like Apple are preparing the way for all the third party apps like LotusNotes, et all.

Hopefully in a future iPhone update they'll build in SMS forwarding and the landscape keyboard in Notes...

Jan 23, 08 - 08:38 am Comment from: Rob

@willyboy
"@Tom Strong
That would make a killer t-shirt!"

I did one for my 2 years old son: "Got Mac?" with big Apple logo.

Another cool slogan is: "iPhone, OS X on diet code"
Or: "Don't just fit in, stand out!"

Jan 23, 08 - 08:51 am Comment from: fojimo

The company I work for will let my iPhone onto the corporate network, but only if it supports Cisco's VPN client. They claim that the two VPN clients that come on the iPhone are too insecure. Hopefully Cisco will come out with an installable, mobile version.

Jan 23, 08 - 09:01 am Comment from: Shinobi

I knew they would change this before allowing third party apps on the iphone. Its never a good idea to violate the principle of least privilege.

Glad Apple has finally wised up and changed this.

Jan 23, 08 - 09:20 am Comment from: Ray

I TOLD YOU SO BACK IN JUNE...AJAX WAS NOT ENOUGH!!!
NOW iPHONE IS READY TO BE REAL HANDHELD COMPUTER!!!

Just my $0.02

Jan 23, 08 - 09:36 am Comment from: M.X.N.T.4.1

What's the issue with glossy screens? I sit with a spotlight pointing right at my screen and get no glare or anything. It just looks way better than my old one.

Jan 23, 08 - 10:15 am Comment from: Ted

Please don't use windows and geek in the same sentence. I like to consider myself a geek and I know a lot about windows but I would never want to be considered a "windows geek". Really, windows is not geek worthy. Linux geek, Mac geek (since 10.0) but never windows geek...

Jan 23, 08 - 10:41 am Comment from: Spark

@Meester Roboto
"Firmware 1.1.1 supports the ability to show extra applications in the application folder. That feature has been here for a while and not new."

Yeah, but that was on a jailbreaked phone with the apps running as root. Obviously a dangerous vulnerability and a situation Apple could not support nor allow to expand among the user base. Hence the wreaking of the jailbreaked phone with each update. That's all over now with the new "mobile" user account set up to run apps in 1.1.3.

Who knows, maybe with next month's SDK release, Jobs will hold a special event where the 16GB iPhone will be unveiled and the upcoming 3G iPhone will be announced. I wouldn't be surprised to see some key developers (or Apple themselves) also ready to show off a couple of ready to buy iPhone apps on the day of the SDK release.

Jan 23, 08 - 10:59 am Comment from: Al

There is only one Windows geek and he is a multibillionaire.

Jan 23, 08 - 11:28 am Comment from: @Old Mac Man

Why don't you call yourself Old Whiney Bitch. I have never seen such whiney, pathetic posts in my entire life. Man up and grow some!

Jan 23, 08 - 01:13 pm Comment from: cuz i'm the taxman

Palm may have failed as a company, but the shareware universe for the old Palm OS was the main reason I held onto my T2 as long as I did. Palm OS apps basically made me a Palm Pilot stalwart from 1999-2007. If the same thing could happen for the iPhone, then it really would be the new Newton.

Jan 23, 08 - 10:29 pm Comment from: Daelate $hort

Maybe the Glossy Screen Haters could take a sheet of P24 to their 50" Plasmas. Then, use the shavings as a mesquite substitute at their Mastodon BBQs.

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