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That a way, Stevie Boy!

I love Steve

Sweet

"Apparently, you can take the boy out of Microsoft, but you can't take Microsoft out of the boy."

This was a great line! I'm confused, is this the same CNET I've come to hate? Did they get a new editor or something?

Who uses Real anyways? Like the author of the article, most people uninstall Real products because they are inferior. Also, most websites have quit streaming audio and video through the real player. It seems to me that this is just an attempt from real to get a quick-fix to their problems, as opposed to actually working those problems out themselves.

Gosh

I love my iPod but all this music biz talk is boring. Especially when it involves Real - they have the longest death throw ever.

I hate the real player too, but some of the internet radio I like to listen to requires it. Is there an alternative so that I can delete this annoying POS?

Glaser is a moron, he should have been begging Steve on his knees to liscence him fairplay and let him rebrand an iPod. The tough-guy junk didnt even get him in the door for a talk. And if he thinks Billy-boy will care about him, he has another think coming. Oh Bill will welcome him as another WMA drone. I think expanding AAC-Fairplay to other services is a good idea, but to idiots like glaser, probably not

It's amazing how many Mac fans jumped on the bandwagon in believing this was a good deal for Apple. Why help a dying format gasping for air (Rhapsody). At this juncture, Apple doesn't need to help the competition. At some point in the future when the iPod no longer rules - and that will indeed happen, then Apple can look at "opening up" the player to other formats. As has been widely reported, WMA can easily be ported to the iPod with a simple software upgrade. Also, iTMS is not there to lose money or even break even. Don't believe it. You don't invest $$$ into a money-losing proposition. Yes, it has helped sell iPods but again, that is not going to happen forever. Glaser has always seemed to me to be somewhat naive and even childish in his behavior.

I currently own a Dell (gasp... working on getting a PowerBook - I just have to pay off Dell and their evil interns) and all I have to do to get and iPod and iTunes to recognize other audio formats is to right click on a song file and select Open With iTunes. As for internet radio, (and don't hate me for saying this) try MSN radio. Its free, and has a wide range of music genres.

I have to say i'm disappointed Jobs didn't atleast meet with him. Sure Glasers been running his mouth lately, but I do use Real Player quite a bit for streaming tv/video clips. Unfortunately almost all the sites that offer such things either do it only via Real or have a choice between Real and M$. I'd much rather have Real stick around than be forced to use even worse M$ products on my Mac.

internet radio: tried iTunes already?

Not working with Rio or Real was a smart decision by Apple.

First of all iTMS makes little profit, but it sells iPods.

People like iPods, they consider using Macs because they are now exposed to Apple by visiting the web site because of iTunes/iTMS support or information for their iPods.

The HP deal brings that attention to Apple by placing iTunes on millions of PC's.

The deals with Rio or Real do just the opposite, they give access to the iPod and by them promoting either their format or WMA, force Apple to become just another PC company.

Real and Rio don't have the hardware selling bargaining chip that Apple requires.

Even if Rio and Real sold "Fairplay" it still distracts from the main Apple goal, to sell Mac computers.

At less than 2% of the worldwide market, we really can't afford to diversify at this time.

Real and Rio know this, this whole Glaser email leak "game" has been a play to bring sympathy and put a dent into Apple by making them appear arrogant and turn people off to Apple.

Glaser is just a drama king.

Hey Glaser! Checkmate!

Real sobbing: Wa ha ha ha, I have to go back to my former abuser M$ now!!! I want my daddy Bill!!!

Ok, Ok, I'm the bumbass of the week. Had too much to drink and couldn't get laid for over 5 weeks! I'm just out of touch now.
see ya boys, I need a joint now.

I mentally filled in the blanks "Go pound sand up your ass!", when I saw the article title. Just me?

Glaser should have consulted with Michael Eisner about trying a lame power play with Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs typed a short message to The New York Times as he forwarded them Glaser's email: "This should fuck 'em Real good."

You gotta love this! Way to go, Steve!!

AAAAAAMEN!

Real has bigger problems than MS's crooked 'marketing'... their program sucks ass.

I'm not a subject to MS's monopoly (well..er.. let me say..) but I still use Real unless I have to.

GO FIGURE!!

Screw Jaba the Hutt

baggins...you might have some issues to deal with there

If you want to listen to BBC radio online you have to have Real, otherwise it's completely pointless.

The sooner the Beeb wakes up and smells the coffee, the better. Dump Real and go with an iTunes-compatible format.

Is there a way to listen to Air America Radio through iTunes instead of Real? Please let me know.

Real Networks had their chance to make deals with Apple a long a time ago. They blew it. Goodbye Real. Thanks for the memories of constant stream rebuffering and dead links. Apple should team up more with HP(someone they can trust) to pump out more iPods. Maybe a lower priced mini model for $149.

Notably no-one has answered the question what to use instead of Realplayer... Slagging them off is all very well but the truth is Apple should have taken out Real with Quicktime.

Seems to me there is less and less Quicktime streaming available and you have to use Real, or do without...

I would also like to know the options,
instead of RealPlayer, for listening to the
programs that are available on npr.org.

I don't like RealPlayer, but I like Living On Earth,
Morning Edition, All Things Considered, All Songs
Considered, etc.

I love our IT department. They have classified real player as a virus and cannot get rid of it on PCs, though they are spending some good manpower to do so.

all you dorks are losers