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Leaked iPhone 2.0 pics, info: thinner design, color choices, video chat, iChat for Windows
Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 09:21 AM EST

"It wasn’t long ago that my inbox was full of screen caps from an image editing program of a new iPod, it was a fat yet small iPod that we now know as the 3rd gen Nano. We posted the photos and were later told by Apple’s legal team to take them down," Matt Hickey reports for CrunchGear.

"A similar tipster tonight has very generously given us these pics of the iPhone 2, or iPhone 3G as some are calling it. Like the Fat Nano from last summer, the images come from Apple or AT&T promotional material that shows not just the new iPhone, but also gives away a couple secrets," Hickey reports.

• Thinner than the current model
• Stereo speakers on the back
• Front facing camera for iChat AV
• Multiple color choices, including (RED)
• Evidence that Apple will launch iChat for Windows



Full article with more info plus more and larger images via CrunchGear here.

MacDailyNews Note: Engadget is calling these images "fake," here. The fact that the images remain online in various places might also be a hint that these are fake.

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Jun 07, 08 - 08:25 am Comment from: Noodle-Armed Choir Boy

Definitely NOT.

Jun 07, 08 - 08:29 am Comment from: Dallas

There is an easy Litmus test here for "Leaked Photo's". Did Apple call you up an order you to take them down? No? Well then they are fake.

Jun 07, 08 - 08:30 am Comment from: dallas

Oh and, what good would "Stereo Speakers do on the back?

Jun 07, 08 - 08:32 am Comment from: emanon

If they are fake, then the people that did it have done a really good job. I guess time will tell.

Jun 07, 08 - 08:34 am Comment from: cbOne®2008©tmLLC

iPhones - fake or not - look decent. kudos.

I've got name cred now...cool

Jun 07, 08 - 08:48 am Comment from: Ampar

"I've got name cred now...cool"

Oh yeah.
Sing happy birthday and you get a free sample of Turkish delight.

Jun 07, 08 - 08:53 am Comment from: Chaz Mangus

Good mock up.

Jun 07, 08 - 09:02 am Comment from: neo

they r real dude !! but who ever leaked will be in trouble

Jun 07, 08 - 09:21 am Comment from: Sal

They're real. Do you guys think Apple will make the mistake they made with the Nano by asking the site(s) to take down the pictures? By doing this, Apple would be confirming these pics are real. So to confuse us, they're not going to do this. Apple is way clever, they know how to play the guessing and confusing game. Duhhh!!!

Jun 07, 08 - 09:22 am Comment from: Mac-n-Cheez

Fake... look at the photo of the black iPhone.. it shows the power button at the top... now look at the photo of the red iPhone... MISSING! Small mistake that Apple would not have made... fake photos hardly ever pay attention to the details...

Jun 07, 08 - 09:49 am Comment from: REALTORben

The missing power button is intriguing, however, I would think that these are real, and that there is a reason for that missing power button.

These "mock-ups" if that's what they really are, are very good and right along what apple's design is.

If in fact they are real, then I would imagine that less than 48 hours before the revelation of the actual iPhone 3.0, and it being a weekend so news is a little slower to move (and yes, after the iPod Nano Debacle), that Apple would just keep it's mouth shut.

It did the same thing with the Aluminum Keyboard for the iMac, left them alone because they came out so close to the event.

Jun 07, 08 - 10:04 am Comment from: dvm

You can see that it's in some design program...maybe these photos could have been taken while the graphic designer was creating the page/slide/ad for Apple.

That would explain the missing sleep button and spelling mistakes.

Jun 07, 08 - 10:16 am Comment from: gypsie

I hope they are real because they look great!

Jun 07, 08 - 10:18 am Comment from: tclash

Real or not.... there WILL be video iChat on an iPhone at some point. And how Dick Tracy is that?

Jun 07, 08 - 10:18 am Comment from: It's real

It's real.
1. follows the new shape seen on the MacBook Air.
2. the graphic shows precise alignment of all the ports and switches along all the views. Color seems to be correct and the lighting angle seems to be correct.
3. iChat for Windows will be the "One More Thing". Apple is totally capable of out-of-the-blue-nobody-expected-this type of thing.

hh

Jun 07, 08 - 10:24 am Comment from: I'm seeing Red

Just a thought!

Wouldn't the Apple logo on the Red iPhone be a Metallic Red?

Jun 07, 08 - 10:28 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

The Contact photo and the 'live' picture are just too scruffy looking for Apple's advertising standards, methinks.

Jun 07, 08 - 10:34 am Comment from: Ha, ha.

Fake or not, Carlos looks genuinely happy.

Jun 07, 08 - 10:45 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

=) Well of course he does! He has a brand new fake iPhone!

Jun 07, 08 - 10:54 am Comment from: Petey

These are definitely fake.

Look at the screen, there is a video call going on and yet there is not camera facing the person calling...

umm on 2nd thoughts they could be real... Apple used the iMac screen to capture images so why not capture video on the iPhone screen?

Jun 07, 08 - 10:57 am Comment from: Julio - I ain't fake

@Dallas

If Apple called to request to take photos down, they would be actually ending the "surprise" factor for the WWDC event or actually confirming next gen iPhone well in advance.

The speakers on the back would be for you to hear your hads-free conversations.

Jun 07, 08 - 11:17 am Comment from: Sam

Not to be racist or anything (I'm hispanic myself), but Carlos Rodriguez? Looks like you'd find him scrambling eggs at Waffle House. You won't find this guy in any Apple ad. Sorry.

Jun 07, 08 - 11:20 am Comment from: Fitz

Could be a real promotion in the design stage:

Remember, Apple released Black and Red iPod nano's at the high end, and kept the other colors for the low-end versions with silver being a default low-end.

What if black and red iPhones we're the upper end models, and the silver version drops in price and becomes the default.

Jun 07, 08 - 11:36 am Comment from: Ryan TO

I think iChat for Windows is real. Not sure about the iPhone pictures. If dotmac is changing to work closely with the iPhone and many iPhone user are using the Windows OS then I see a real advantage to ensure all aspects of the new dotmac service work with Windows.

Jun 07, 08 - 11:37 am Comment from: Tiger

I say fake. On the real ichat, the person who is using the computer has his/her picture appear in a small window in. This would be especially important for the iPhone because a little flick of the wrist will make your own picture disappear.

It is possible that the picture below is the picture of the person using the iPhone, but then all the space next to it is wasted. That is something that Apple does not do. With a screen that small, why waste precious real estate?

Jun 07, 08 - 11:53 am Comment from: krquet

Maybe it was both fake and not fake.
There's that small possibility that it was provided by Apple to weed out certain tipsters per quater.

Jun 07, 08 - 11:53 am Comment from: CWeb

@Sam

It might confirm the subsidy rumors; iPhone 2 for the masses! Seriously though, once Apple penetrates the market as deeply as it has with the iPod, it's going to be very hard for its competitors to get those consumers back. I, for one, can't imagine going back to using a normal cell phone; can you?

Jun 07, 08 - 12:00 pm Comment from: Ampar

Just be glad you can't see Carlos' left hand.

Jun 07, 08 - 12:12 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ krquet

I almost certain most of these leaks are Apple-created, but I don't think they're looking for moles, I think they just like to get the grist mill going to build hype for the show. You'll notice they always show up one day after another in the week or two leading up to the show, almost like clockwork. I expect another leaked photo or firmware find tomorrow.

Jun 07, 08 - 12:26 pm Comment from: zaphod

apple would never use that carlos guy to sell a product....

Jun 07, 08 - 12:29 pm Comment from: Ampar

"I think they just like to get the grist mill going to build hype for the show."

But only the upper crust subscribe to such half-baked ideas sandwiched between grainy assumptions and harvested loafers outside of their fields.

Jun 07, 08 - 12:40 pm Comment from: fake watch

Carlos looks like a terrorist - and thats racial stereotyping, so the ad is REAL.

Jun 07, 08 - 12:43 pm Comment from: BiZarRo BaLlmEr

@Just be glad you can't see Carlos' left hand.

iPhone ships now with iWindshieldWiper....
keeps your screen clean

Jun 07, 08 - 12:55 pm Comment from: El Guapo

@dallas

Oh and, what good would "Stereo Speakers do on the back?

Speakers on the back might not be too bad (depending on placement). They could be placed in such a way so that sound would bounce off the hand and towards the user. That might even give better sound than where they are currently placed since the sound now comes out the bottom.

Jun 07, 08 - 12:57 pm Comment from: Nuke

Notice there is no lock button on the top of the red one as compared to the black one.

Jun 07, 08 - 12:58 pm Comment from: El Guapo

@It's real
Apple is totally capable of out-of-the-blue-nobody-expected-this type of thing.

Then how could we expect it? Hmm.

Jun 07, 08 - 01:03 pm Comment from: ToxicBottle

Think that if those weren't the fake ones, than apple would have closed this page 10 minutes after the article was published =)

Jun 07, 08 - 01:30 pm Comment from: Wha

I like the idea of having iChat capability.

Jun 07, 08 - 01:47 pm Comment from: James

@Ampar

Why do they call it that? Have you ever had Turkish Delight? It's anything but delightful. Ugh.

Jun 07, 08 - 02:05 pm Comment from: Richie_mofo

If you look at the original article, you can see the iChat blurb and it says something like

"...iChat on your phone... and Windows!"

Personally I don't think Apple would use the "...", and they especially wouldn't use an exclamation mark in their marketing. It takes away their cool, calm, sophisticated attitude and shows a lack of maturity.

It looks very cool, but fake.

Jun 07, 08 - 02:16 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Ampar

I LOLed. Srsly. =)

Jun 07, 08 - 02:38 pm Comment from: Ampar

Thanks, C1. I'm hugging you. Pleeeease don't call the cops again. Bail is almost as much as the gas.

Jun 07, 08 - 03:07 pm Comment from: Macintosher

Ho ho... the red one is a fake, or not fake, Product Red edition! And an earlier prototype, duh.

Jun 07, 08 - 03:29 pm Comment from: ken

Don't know about the pics, but would guess that they are close.

iChat for Win is more than a little interesting - it allows Mac/iPhone users to video chat with Win users. Sort of like opening iTunes to Win users - it expanded the Mac experience and moved a lot of people to a Mac.

For me it's ideal. We're a Mac household, but my wife has a brother in Australia and we have to use Skype for them to video chat. iChat would double the framework for them and might move her brother closer to a Mac.

It would raise the standard (my Magic Word)for iPhone/Win users, making the iPhone a much more desirable product.

Jun 07, 08 - 04:17 pm Comment from: ping

iChat for a 3G iPhone is almost a certainty. Apple needs a "killer application" for the 3G capability, and iChat AV is exactly that. And they own it anyway.

Jun 07, 08 - 04:24 pm Comment from: Skeeter

Its the idiots at CrunchGear trying to drive up traffic to their lame ass "tech" (if you could call it that) site.

What A Holes...

Jun 07, 08 - 05:00 pm Comment from: Thorin

How the hell would you do a video chat when the camera is on the back side?

Jun 07, 08 - 06:30 pm Comment from: Steve516

The speakers aren't really on the back, they are on the bottom facing down as with the current model... But since the edges mimic the Macbook Air, it looks like the rear.

I dunno, I would say looks like a great fake if fake, and a decent real if real LOL.

Jun 07, 08 - 07:10 pm Comment from: Predrag

Am I the only one who has been using iChat AV with Windows users (for the last four years, no less)? AIM (AOL Instant Messenger) for Windows had AV capability ever since iChat AV Beta came out in 2003 (that is five years ago, folks!). The networking protocol that iChat AV uses belongs to AOL (as do the authentication servers). In order to develop client software with functionality that already exists, and for protocol owned by another company, Apple would have to get permission from AOL. I'm not sure what benefit AOL would have from having Apple increase the workload of their servers without bringing the revenue of advertising and other AOL properties that their own Windows client does. Conclusion: no iChat for Windows (most likely).

As for the authenticity of the pictures, that isn't relevant anymore. They may as well be authentic; Apple's point has been made - about half of people here believe, the other don't, in their validity. Apple has absolutely no reason to intervene. None of the supposed leaks we have seen or heard so far have been reliably corroborated, thus continuing the anticipation and uncertainty. Apple's goal has been accomplished - we still don't know if there will be 3G iPhone and what it will look like, less than 48 hours before the show. Apple had done it again!

Jun 07, 08 - 07:20 pm Comment from: Predrag

And on he subject of iChat for Windows, I would have to say that such a piece of software would be light years ahead of what today Windows users are forced to use if they wish to video chat with their Mac friends on iChat. AIM for Windows is a monstrosity beyond parallel, and that includes such ugly beasts as Microsoft Office, or Windows Vista itself! I would really be hard pressed to think of more atrocious piece of software than AIM for Windows. Unfortunately, as things stand, it is unlikely that AOL would ever let Apple build and distribute (for free) something that would immediately replace AIM on every single Windows desktop that has it.

Jun 07, 08 - 09:49 pm Comment from: Mister Snitch

They remind me of the first iMacs. If this is what they do, good move.

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