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Apr 07, 08 - 09:55 pm Comment from: Mozfan

I'm not surprised at all. After four years of being a Mac user and telling everyone at work how great Macs are, the trickle of switchers has turned into a flood. In my own experience, I'm seeing us reach critical mass.

Even those who were once the biggest Mac haters have been won over by the love they have for their iPods and iTunes. Throw in a few Vista upgrade nightmares, and everyone in the work group is coming to me for buying advice.

Even the people who don't need a machine right now are talking about switching when the time comes.

Sure, it's just one guy's experience, but I'd be willing to bet lots of people here could tell the same story.

-M

Apr 07, 08 - 10:01 pm Comment from: It's About Time

Another "lost soul" crosses over to reality. The MS wall of delusion is crumbling. Just ask anyone at Dell.

Welcome! David Alison!

Some of "us" are crazy, some of us are so far left leaning that it makes "communism" look like a walk in a park.

Some of us have been colored fruity and we might all be indeed gay and happy.

Some of us been label artists, eccentric or in the case of GW Bush, a idiot.

Some of us like Al Gore who scream about global warming but have three GIANT 30" Displays on our desktops and a TV on behind us are complete and utter hypocrites.

Some like me ARE EXTREMELY PARANOID and wear tin foil hats constantly to keep out the "rays". Thus we use Mac's because, before they were extremely secure, now just so so, but better than anything Microsoft has ever produced.

Some of us work for the FBI and other secret organizations and use Mac's for security, twindling security as it is.

Some of us just don't like computers, don't want to work on them, just expect them to work and do their job. Working for us humans.

Some of us are fanatics, if you dare like anything else non-Apple, god forbid you even mention it. You'll be cut down immediatly for disagreeing with anything not endorsed by the HOLY STEVE JOBS!!

Some of us are TRAITORS!! For using Microsoft products on our Mac's, or hooking up Dell monitors to their Mac's. Wonder why they have problems and their computers become insecure and unstable.

Some Mac users need to be, quite frankly, taken out to the pasture ... Like Rush Limbard or what-ever his name is.

Some of us like to whine and complain to no end, like myself, WE ARE NEVER SATISFIED WITH ANYTHING APPLE DOES. We are perfectionists and push Apple to do more because we...

Some of us are SPOILED ROTTEN and like it... so...

So anyway welcome to the CULT OF MAC. Steve Jobs is your new God, Cupertino is your heaven and you will buy everything new that comes from heaven. Prepare to pay. Prepare to be awed to walk into the CHURCH OF APPLE STORES.

YOU WILL HATE MICROSOFT, You will hate Microsoft. you will hate Microsoft. Because Microsoft is the ultimate evil.

Intel used to be evil too, but IBM dropped the ball in making a cool G5 processor so we could continue to have the endless processor wars and a cool G5 laptop.

So IBM has become evil for their treacherous behavior and Intel a accepted evil.

You still have time to go back to Windows....hurry or evolve into a crazy Mac head....

You lose either way... but at least your computer works on our side...


whooo hoooo, who let the dogs out. rough rough!!

Apr 07, 08 - 10:35 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

@Mad Mac Maniac: Is your hat made or tin foil or armadillo shells?

Apr 07, 08 - 10:55 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

Some of YOU, are utter douche bags… eh Mad Mac Maniac?

Apr 07, 08 - 10:56 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

I love this quote:
"The biggest draw for me is the way the Mac UI works. For me the user interface is about usability, integration and aesthetics."

So, it took the guy 24 years to figure that one out? It took me all of about 10 minutes back in 1985 and I was just a potential customer.
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Sheesh, If he's that friggin' dense, go back to Windows! ;^)

Apr 07, 08 - 11:03 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

Another quitter. Us Windows enthusiasts don't need the likes of sissy traitors like him around anyway. Getting rid of the weak makes us stronger. You pretentious little girly MAC sheep can have him.

David, good luck in the future with your overpriced proprietary hardware, one button mice and near-constant crashes. Maybe one day you'll come to your senses and break free of the MAC cult. Until then your just another annoying and smug MAC lemming. Who can't play games.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Apr 07, 08 - 11:13 pm Comment from: Cubert

Good to see you back Mozfan!

@mad mac maniac
One of the best posts I've witnessed on this site. I've read and re-read it 3 times (but then, I've watched the Macworld 2007 keynote over 6 times). A wide variety of different levels of humor from lots of people... ampar-you da man... zuney-for some reason, we love ya... and chrissyone, I want you bad, girl.
Let's all jump in the shower... O.K.???

Apr 07, 08 - 11:37 pm Comment from: Road Warrior

Oh dear, sounds like ZT has panties tied in a not. "Another quitter." I am shocked by your statement ZT. I mean I would have expected nothing or a quitter but ANOTHER quitter? Wow, sounds like rats leaving a drowning ship.

Maybe he wanted to stop using a toy operating system to play games and get some real productive work done.

Apr 07, 08 - 11:38 pm Comment from: AppleMacMan

@Zune Tang

Ok, you've got your 15 minutes of fame. Happy now?

Apr 08, 08 - 12:07 am Comment from: HMCIV

We've been seeing a lot of these kinds of articles lately.

@ Zune Tang...As garymac hinted Mac users can play games. The question is [ahem] what k-i-n-d of games would you like to play?

(Personally I'm into some of the more adult titles...like Turbo Tax.)

Spell check dude-- it's Macs, not Mac's just as it should be Oakland As, not A's. Even MLB can't get it right. Sorry, I read 'Eat Shoots and Leaves' and I've been corrupted forever.

A little off topic, but I have to write this.... today I went to Best Buy (didn't have time to drive to my local Apple Store) to buy my wife a MB Air... (she travels a lot - and we have more macs at home).

I asked the salesman if they had MBAirs in stock. He said he needed a key to check stock.... 10 minutes later he comes back with one. While he was ringing me up he spotted a woman looking up the Sony Vaio on their web connected computer. He almost stopped ringing me up to help her. Then she noticed my Air.... he flat out told her she didn't want it, because it doesn't come with a DVD drive. This is info he just volunteered. She wasn't even talking to him. And she certainly didn't look like she was about to buy an Air. She looked intent on viewing the Vaio.. or at least looking it up on the web.

Then he walked me to security with the Air and a Time Capsule. When the guard at the door noticed the Air, he blurted out.... "Why did you get that?... It doesn't have a DVD drive"

I told him I didn't need it to have one. Then he and the Salesman simultaneously stated I would need it to reinstall the OS in the future. I defended the Air saying I could use an external or 'borrow' another computers DVD drive. The salesman stated that I was mistaken and that Macs couldn't do that.

Our conversation lasted more than a minute, and it seemed to me that it was possible that this might be the 'company line' and if so, were they making more money by selling Windows machines or somehow motivated to bash Apple while having an Apple section in their store.

I know AT&T;employees could care less about selling the iPhone.. they said something about not making a good commission for selling them (if anything at all).

I called Apple's customer care department to report that particular Best Buy. That's all I could do.

I hope that somehow the behavior stops. When the security scrutinized my purchase it made me very suspicious.

Apr 08, 08 - 01:13 am Comment from: OZZ

Welcome to our family David!

Apr 08, 08 - 01:22 am Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

The tsunami is coming. Actually, if I were the religious sort, I'd say the rapture is coming.

Windows experts are discovering that the Mac is a better machine. The iPhone will bring OS X into enterprise. Small business will lead the way by adopting Mac to their offices. Maybe I've had one too many beers tonight, but I think the Mac may be taking over in the next couple of years.

So, if this is like the rapture, will Ballmer be sucked up off earth or will he be Satan on earth. Just a question?

Apr 08, 08 - 01:57 am Comment from: Ampar

Thanks, garymac.

Apr 08, 08 - 02:12 am Comment from: Ampar

To innhitman:
It sounds like a deeply entrenched ulterior motive to me. I've seen this before as well. Sometimes it's a store manager that is frightened that he or she has to accommodate customers outside of a long established comfort zone. Management drives the attitudes based on fear, uncertainty and doubt. And ignorance is contagious and spreads trepidation to the front lines.
Or it's a motivation based on an anxiety that somehow the store won't meet its numbers if customers aren't choosing what has been perceived as the status quo.
Most likely, it's a combination of factors and really annoying.

"THERE'S NO DVD DRIVE ! ! What do you do?"
"Easy. Shoot the hostage."

Apr 08, 08 - 02:16 am Comment from: Mozfan

@Cubert...

Thanks. I've been on here pretty much every day, but don't always post (and when I do, it's usually towards the end of the thread).

It's rare for me to get lucky and come across a new thread, but this one struck a chord because of all the evangelizing I've done since I saw the light.

~M

@Mad Mac Maniac

BRAVO!!! Inspirational, hilariously accurate, cutting ALL sides to the quick...

You, sir, are a formidable opponent.

Well, I need a DVD drive cause I travel a lot and want to look at moovies, so I bought a MacBook instead of MBAir.

Too bad tho, I played around with the Air and really liked it, so sad...but that's what life is all about - compromises and compromises..

Apr 08, 08 - 03:49 am Comment from: flappo

the dork at bestbuy obv. knows bugger all aboot leopard

it's under the sharing prefernces - allow cd/dvd sharing

what a dummy

Apr 08, 08 - 04:11 am Comment from: Metryq

@ Mr. Reeee, I'm with you. This guy didn't just suddenly see the light, he said he hated Macs. Odds are he hadn't actually used one. Windows developer turns to Mac -- because of technical merit, or because the future of Windows development is looking dark?

Are idiots. There was no motive- they just don't know shit and act like they do.

Apr 08, 08 - 06:04 am Comment from: auren

What I really liked about in David's blog is that ALL of
the replies were supportive, encouraging and helpful.

There wasn't a single flame last time I looked. Maybe Zune Tang and Afib are the only windows fanbois left on the planet and they just have to hang out here to feel needed.

Just a thought.

Apr 08, 08 - 06:22 am Comment from: Ray

The switch makes all the sense in the world to me. Especially since the guy said he programmed in DOS. M$ totally screwed the pooch when the made the command line obsolete.

Just my $0.02

Apr 08, 08 - 07:11 am Comment from: Petey

Welcome to the world of worry free and virus free computing.

Enjoy your stay in Utopia!

Another quitter.

LMAO

Apr 08, 08 - 07:18 am Comment from: Petey

re: innhitman

It sound to me like a severe lack of knowledge to me.

I know the people at Best Buy arent genius's but before coming out with that crap they could have just gone to Apple.com and find that information out instantly.

As yes, I think they get more commission flogging WIndowz than Macs and add the ignorance to the mix and you get the 'amazing' store experience of best Buy.

Glad you stuck to your guns and bought your MBA though - If they had talked to me like that I would have thrown the mac at them and told them to fuck off and I would have bought the gear from the nearest Apple Store.

"Let's all jump in the shower... O.K.???"

That's frightening said by someone whose posting name is gaymac.

"Another quitter", ZungTang

And this is a surprise how? At least you have come to the same conclusion as the rest of us...ANOTHER QUITTER from Windows. Get used to it, it's only the start.

Thankfully, I can sell Apple products again, since no official Apple Store is anywhere near on the horizon in my region.

Zune Tang, gaymac, can I sleep with you tonight?

Apr 08, 08 - 08:15 am Comment from: Zune Tang®

…long established comfort zone?

…attitudes based on fear, uncertainty and doubt?

…ignorance is contagious and spreads trepidation to the front lines?

Sounds like MAC lemmings to me. Fear and ignorance are the tools Apple fanbois use to lure the weak into their cult. Common falsehoods to draw them in are "malware took my Windows machine down last weekend", "Windows machines are ugly and the OS is a mess" and "you get what you pay for". Whatever.

Once hooked MAC sheep develop a heightened sense of smugness and pretension—so acute that they're blind to "real world" computing with the "viruses? I don't know what you're talking about", "everything is easy" or "everything just works" mantra from MAC fanbois. Think different, MAC dorks. If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

Your potential. Our passion.™

" Fear and ignorance are the tools Apple fanbois use to lure the weak into their cult."
Really? I thought it was because of industry experts calling out Windows for what it is:
http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/12/anything_speechless_100_things_people_are_really_saying_about_windows_vista?page=0,0



"Common falsehoods to draw them in are "malware took my Windows machine down last weekend", "Windows machines are ugly and the OS is a mess" and "you get what you pay for". Whatever."
See helpful link above.

"Once hooked MAC sheep develop a heightened sense of smugness and pretension—so acute that they're blind to "real world" computing with the "viruses? I don't know what you're talking about", "everything is easy" or "everything just works" mantra from MAC fanbois. Think different, MAC dorks. If it sounds too good to be true, it is."
PC's are susceptible to viruses, malware, and they are forced to use DRM-riddled software being sold by an orangutang in a business suit? It's too good to be true!
http://www.eontarionow.com/images/ballmer1.jpg

Your frustration. Our fault.™

Apr 08, 08 - 09:22 am Comment from: Mr. Peabody

Jason Snell, Editor of MacWorld Magazine, in the latest issue says: "The reason Microsoft's founders are among the richest people in the world is that the company's products, including Windows and Office, are like public utilities. Practically everyone uses them."

Well, I agree that practically everyone uses them, but do you really think that's the real reason why MS founders are the "richest"? And are these products really public utilities? I think the real answer to both questions is worth contemplating when buying into a computing platform for personal use, and much more so when contemplating what an entire company is going to rest it's computing needs on.

Mr. Alison is only one of many millions that once again demonstrates that you simply do not have to use Windows - at home or at work. Enterprise infrastructures simply do not have to build their computing platform on MS products - period. The truth is that no one actually must use MS products, including WIndows and Office. We've simply talked ourselves into an imaginary position that doesn't really exist outside of the rhetoric we're feed by MS reps and their partners. And that's a fact.

Apr 08, 08 - 09:56 am Comment from: Zune Tang®

"…you simply do not have to use Windows - at home or at work"

What the hell is Mr. Peabody is talking about? Hey smarty pants—if Microsoft disappeared off the face of the earth where would that leave us? That's right. It would be a dark, cold and bleak existence.

Not using Microsoft products is like not breathing air. Do you suggest people stop using air too? Air happens to be in my comfort zone alongside food and water. You MAC dorks seem to think you can live on expensive and pretty little toys that can't play games. Ridiculous.

Your potential. Our passion.™

After bleating the virtues of OS X to my co-workers for nearly 5 years now, I got a call from one (who is well-known for being rather computer savvy and once was our IT guy) who finally reached his tipping point and wanted to know if the Mac Mini would be good enough for his needs. And once HE jumps, others will follow.

Apr 08, 08 - 10:14 am Comment from: Ampar

"Not using Microsoft products is like not breathing paying for poor quality air."

"if Microsoft disappeared off the face of the earth where would that leave us? That's right. It would be a dark, cold and bleak existence."
As opposed to what Microsoft is doing to the world now?


"Do you suggest people stop using air too? Air happens to be in my comfort zone alongside food and water."
So you DO live in a hamster cage!


"You MAC dorks seem to think you can live on expensive and pretty little toys that can't play games. Ridiculous."
*sigh* Oh the tough life we live! Having a powerful, stable OS with the ability to boot into the Dark Side if we feel the urge to play crappy Winblows games, or stay on the good sauce and play the Mac port. So how is that overheated, overpriced Alienware tower that you use to play your games on?
What? Speak up! We Mac users are playing the latest games on the consoles which cost a fraction of the loan that you took out to pay for that paperweight you call a PC.

Your whining. Our laughter.™

@ innhitman
It's a overviewed and planned sales statement, otherwise they would have asked you if you would like to buy an external Superdrive. SCAM and typical of Best Buy...it was the same at COMPUSA, and we all know where they went.
It's a shame that most people would be not informed and believe them. Years ago, I would go into COMPUSA and make all the OS 9 computers say "COMP USA Employees SUCK" when a dailog box came up. Their "megahertz" emphasized PC boxes couldn't do that, and none of them have jobs there now.

Apr 08, 08 - 12:56 pm Comment from: alansky

Refurbished MacBooks as low as $849 at the online Apple Store, including free shipping + no tax outside CA. Click the "Refurbished Mac" link under Special Deals.

Apr 08, 08 - 01:58 pm Comment from: cuz i'm the taxman

I love my cute and girly Macbook. Sometimes I put on my favorite dress and big-girl panties and browse for Hello Kitty merchandise.

Apr 08, 08 - 02:14 pm Comment from: Darkness

@innhitman...

There's a much simpler explanation. Best Buy/Geek Squad make *much* more money on support for crappy Windows machines than they ever will on a Mac. Macbook Air is selling quite well; satisfied customers buy them and then never return to Best Buy. If you buy a Windows laptop they know you'll be back inside 30 days to have them fix something, at which point they can charge you $50/hour.

The "no DVD drive" argument is just an acceptable smoke screen to hide their true intentions.

"…you simply do not have to use Windows - at home or at work"

What Mr. Peabody is talking about is the truth. Hey friend — if Microsoft disappeared off the face of the earth where would that leave us? That's right. It would be a bright, warm and wonderful existence.

Not using Apple products is like not breathing air. Do you suggest people stop using air too? Air happens to be in my comfort zone alongside food and water. You windoze dorks seem to think you can live on cheap and ugly little boxes that can play games, but have many problems like viruses and crashes. If you really want to play games, get a console! Ridiculous.

Think Different.™

Apr 08, 08 - 05:16 pm Comment from: AppleMacMan

@Zune Tang Edit

ROFL!!! Wahhahaha...

• Software Availability: The range of applications is staggering and covers just about any category I could think of.

Unless of course you're in to the market in which case you're screwed without Paralles or Fusion.

Intuit's Quicken for Mac is a terrible application too.

Don't get me wrong. I'll put up with all of it to keep from going back to Windoze but I'd like to point out that improvements to the software availability could be made.

Apr 09, 08 - 08:35 am Comment from: Mr. Peabody

@rws,

I'm sure you're already aware of this, but Quicken is definitely not your only or best option - by a long shot.