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WOW!!

"Really bad user experience."

From Microsoft??

Surprise, surprise!

and this is news because??????
TR

Lovely, lose a day transferring files and _then_ have to reinstall all your applications. That's a great way to start being productive using Vista.

The world must really be full of masochists!

i have serious doubts about the viability of the human race when so many people willingly do stuff like this.

"The WOW Starts.... Tomorrow!"

This is so true but when you have a bunch of people who love to spend time trying things out and feel like they are troubleshooting and fixing things then it is hard to convince them to realize that their time is wasted.
All my Windows friends act like a Help Desk at home... and they never have anything productive to talk about unless they are really IT experienced. The average Windows user plays solitaire only.

I used the Migration Utility and a plain old Firewire cable to transfer my stuff to my new work machine a few weeks ago. It was ridiculously easy (it was actually the first time I'd done it) and took under an hour. All my apps worked, even all my Adobe apps that I thought I'd have to re-register.

I also use Carbon Copy Cloner to do live backups to FW drives, or a second internal, so if a machine goes down, all I have to do is reboot to the other drive and away I go. Works well when you need to migrate to a new internal drive, too.

The Mac crushes Windows to a bloody pulp in this area. I have not done a fresh install of OS X in... I can't actually remember the last time I did it. So there.

"WOW!"

-c

I have two PC loving brothers. I was the sole Mac user in the family. Both of their computers are getting slower and slower and it is pissing them off. It would piss them off even more when I would laugh at their misery about the lack of need for malware and virus detector software. At Xmas they both used my core 2 duo iMac (they used XP naturally). Both were stunned and now BOTH are thinking of getting an iMac and following the new trend....XP for their stuff and Mac for internet.

Still a stupid attitude but hey its a start right?

Inteerstingly both have no desire to play with Vista....(psssstttt..the revolution is starting)

Mixed feelings

From my G4 500 powerbook to my 2.1 core duo iMac - did not work.

From my grandparents Cube (G4 450) to 1.8 core duo Mac Mini - that did work.

ChrissyOne....your Photoshop CS migrated properly? Photoshop 7.0 has worked but not CS. Wonder what the difference is?

"The WOW Starts.... Tomorrow!"

"The OW!! Starts Now!"

This is a perfect example of the kind of make-work Microsoft designs to keep those IT departments busy.

See how NECESSARY all those IT geeks are!

Just like 2 parasites living off each other.

And we wonder WHY IT departments HATE Macs and spread so much Mac related FUD?

one thing for me is rigth,apple blows windows away in many areas that windows as to explore,but hey windows programers only make bad copies,so what time is to waste with this theme:none,we all know apple is the best,so lets talk about putting some extra things to the iphone,like ichat mobile remenber...or some features like a number cellphone detector to have all numbers from ppl we know w/out typing and writing then in the list via BTO.

The reason that Windows Easy Transfer doesn't transfer applications isn't nefarious, it doesn't transfer applications because it is too hard to do. Windows has rules about where applications get installed, what goes into the registry, and where user settings and documents go, but Windows doesn't enforce the rules and application developers frequently break them. One of the things Microsoft is doing in the transition from XP to Vista is to start enforcing those rules, so users don't have to be administrators just to run their applications. Quite a lot of programs that won't work in Vista break the rules; XP doesn't care, but Vista does.

Consequently, there is no way to predict where all the pieces of an application are located or how to move them to a new machine.

In the next version of Windows, I'm sure this will all be straightened out; but by then, I won't care.

From a dual mirror 1.2 G4 to a G5 2.3 it somewhat worked. Halfway through the process I got a kernel panic and from their on could not get the thing to work. Some of my applications got jumbled up and would not start. I ended up moving the missing parts manually and I got everything working good, but it took a lot longer then one hour.

Many months ago already, migration of some 30GB from my trusty old G3 ("Pismo") laptop to an iBook G4 via Firewire 400 was a snap. Only one app needed to be re-registered. In about an hour, I was back in production mode on my newer machine, with all my files and settings just as before.

I recently told this little story to a procurement person at a federal agency; he was astonished.

--PK

Migrating from my old Powerbook G4 to my new MacBook Pro last November was flawless. The only extra steps required were to re-enable some DRM-based dependancies (big surprise).

This report does not exist, says the BBC...

from a lampstand iMac to my new core 2 duo macbook worked seamlessly. Less than an hour.

@ Buster

Not sure about CS1, I don't have it installed at the moment. The CS3 beta asked me for the serial number again and re-activated, but everything else but Version Cue (which I don't use) loaded fine.

Not all IT personnel should be considered Windows Trogs (troglodytes). I'm part of our IT organization, but have a Mac next to my XP box and a Solaris box in the corner. They pay me to keep our Windows boxes working, but my early work was with UNIX servers, networks, etc. So I was exposed to that greener grass long ago. A few of my colleagues with comparable backgrounds also mock the "Windows standard" pushed by our decision makers. Those pushing Windows may not have malevolent or selfish intent; they just don't know anything else - which means they shouldn't be the ones making the decisions.

Actually, there's a missing test here!

What if it's actually faster to migrate from Windows XP to Mac OS X than it is to migrate to Vista.

Sure you can't migrate the applications per se, but is it quicker to install MS Office 2004 on a Mac than to install Office 2007?

Equally, I seem to recall that either Parallels or VMWare were promising (or have delivered) functionality that would, to all intents and purposes, import a Windows XP system into a "virtual" machine. The important thing here is that if a company has a 'locked-in' line of business app (CRM, ERP, CAD/CAM/CAE, whatever) that cannot be run under a Macintosh environment, is it not actually quicker to assimilate the XP machine into a virtual environment than it is to test, debug and package the app for deployment under Vista?

One of the Macintosh sites really ought to do a full-on migration test.

What if it's actually faster to migrate from Windows XP to Mac OS X than it is to migrate to Vista.
— Fanatic Realist

You read my mind (or I read yours), proving that telepathy is the fastest transfer of them all.

If we could only harness that power!

Wittend:

Brilliant!

Trvth…

My mind barely has the power to pull the skin off rice pudding, so I doubt if its anything at my end.

MDN failed to mention another source of irritation with the Vista way of migrating: THE USE OF A PROPRIETARY CABLE! (Belkin's Easy Transfer Cable)

Aren't most computers equipped with FireWire now? If you buy a FW cable, it remains useful afterwards for other purposes.

Why did M$ fail to rely on established standards? tsk tsk tsk

"The wow starts..."
...when you get your first Mac

Wow, why do people put up with that company???????

The ow starts now... very nice, wish I thought of that.

Yea, I tried Microsofts version of a migration utility. What a joke. Certainly does not work at all! I used the Mac migration utility helping customers at a corporate site upgrade there OS from Jaguar to tiger. Worked perfectly just as this article says. Gotta love the Mac, it just works as advertised.

MacDaddy:

I wonder if all the PC users who have been casually supporting friends and family will draw the line at supporting Vista since it is so much more time consuming? Having to pay for support may encourage the PC users to suggest they buy a Mac!

Use Transfer Assistant hundreds of times. Few errors, but at a guesstimate, I'd say it's been successful 95% of the time.

Apple Genius®

It's amazing that "migrating" from Windows XP to Windows Vista is so difficult. How is this possible? Can Microsoft be that incompetent?

From the sound of it, it may actually be easier to migrate from Windows XP to Mac OS X than from XP to Vista. Someone should do that comparison. Obviously, this would be an "old machine to new machine" migration (of user data and settings) instead of an upgrade to an existing installation, but it would be interesting. I'll bet the Mac wins.

You can't move the apps?!?!?! HA!!! Totally unbelievable. When is the madness going to end and people are going to say enough is enough?

Truly sad.

Excellent idea, ken1w!

Go to the original article and look at the photo gallery comparing the migration process on the Mac vs. the PC. It is hilarious how HORRIBLE the process is on Winblows. It's like a crap shoot as to whether the thing will finish or not.

Freakin' hilarious!

Priceless. Absolutely priceless.

Apple, CAPITALIZE ON THIS!

Tell the PC world IT'S EASIER TO SWITCH TO MAC THAN TO VISTA!!

Everyone in MS's entire Windows division should be fired. But please God let them all keep their jobs; they're doing so much for Apple I'd hate to see them go.

You can't move the apps?!?!?! HA!!! Totally unbelievable.

Apple's hands aren't exactly blood-free here.

Remember when Classic went away, unsupported on the Intel Macs?

"Remember when Classic went away, unsupported on the Intel Macs?"

And thank god for it! Classic needed to die - it was in the works the whole time. It was a technology that was intended as a stopgap measure for the transition to OS X. 5 years is a long enough transition, in my mind.

You can continue to use Macs that are compatible with Classic for many years, if you need to.

Windows power users love that their Windoze machines don't work. They feel important spending hours a day keeping them running. It makes them feel like the have bigger wieners.

Alec it right; they need the ego boost because they are stuck with Micro$hafts

If Microsoft wants to beat Apple at its own game, all it has to do is copy Apple and base its next OS on FreeBSD and build an Aero interface. If MS wants legacy support, it can make its own "Rosetta" to run DOS, Windows 95, 98, 2000, XP and Vista. Computers are getting so fast, so quick (80 cores! 80 CORES!!) that virtualization will be "native" for any application.