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Jun 26, 09 - 06:04 pm Comment from: Gman

God bless you MJ.

Bank of America is probably pretty happy about that.

MDN word: Trouble

Remember, he would have had to do some other occupation if copyright law hadn't been extended to 75 years from now!

It wouldn't have been financially viable with a shorter term for copyright protection.

Jun 26, 09 - 06:43 pm Comment from: HotinPlaya

Because of Fame and money, the pervert avoided justice

Justice was finally served, self induced drug over dose,

May he burn in Hell

Jun 26, 09 - 06:45 pm Comment from: Bogus Jimmy

Does anyone have any idea how much revenue would have been generated for his estate through these album sales in the last 24 hours?

All the brick and mortar stores are selling out of MJ stock.

Apple, OTOH, has a license to print money here... You can't sell out of digital downloads.

Jun 26, 09 - 06:51 pm Comment from: Mr.Fergus

I doubt there are any little boys for him to molest in hell.

The other bit of news will be how quickly the record studio execs decide to bump the song prices up to $1.29.

Jun 26, 09 - 07:02 pm Comment from: Murasaki

For those judging Mike. The first trial was settled. The second one acquitted him. Personally, I think those people tried to use MJs eccentricity against him. After settling the first, he let the trial play out in the second. Had he not, there would have been MORE allegations, no doubt.

Jun 26, 09 - 07:12 pm Comment from: HotinPlaya

@Murasaki

and I am sure you never had a 12yo sibling molested and repeatedly raped by an adult of "Social stature"

Burn in Hell pervert

"The first trial was settled" money!!!!
"The second one acquitted him" Fame!!!

HotinPlaya finally correct about something, AND a dead child molester, what a great day.

Jun 26, 09 - 07:46 pm Comment from: iPhoner

When Farrah Fawcett got to heaven, and went through the pearly gates, she was greeted by God.

"Wow!" exclaimed the Holy Ghost. "We really enjoyed your work here. Especially Charlie's Angels! I still have a poster in my office of you with that red bikini!"

Farrah is a little taken aback. "Thank you, Lord..."

He goes on, "Well, I have a special reward for you. I'm prepared to grant you one wish. Have anything in mind?"

Not one to act selfish and change God's opinion of her, Farrah thinks for a second and decides upon a wish. "I'd like for all the children of the world to be safe and sound forever."

"Done!" exclaims the Heavenly Father. He snaps, and Michael Jackson appears next to Farrah.

Now get ready for the estate battle. His creditors (and he owed MILLIONS) will be coming out of the woodwork to collect, citing these sales as reasons why there is money to pay them.

Don't expect much to be left for his family.

He's a pedophile and it's a sad testament to society that the world turns its cheek on his horrible acts against little children. It's sickening.

Spoken as a father of two.

Oh come on like anyone knows what he did or didn't do. I find it's usually the ones posting such remarks that are the ones to worry about. Why would anyone leave their kids with michael jackson? Think about it, they wanted a payday and he was an easy target. His type are usually the ones you don't have to worry about, it's the baseball coach or boy scout leader down the street playing chameleon that you have to worry about. I could look at Jackson and know to never take a chance leaving my kids around him. The others that look "normal" are 99% of the times the one doing it. Just something to keep in mind as you throw stones.

Jun 26, 09 - 08:11 pm Comment from: silverhawk

I hate to do this, but:

Did you hear about Michael Jackson's autopsy results?

They learned his body was 95% plastic from too many reconstructive surgeries.

So instead of a burial, they are going to recycle him into Lego's.

That way kids can play with him for a change.

Jun 26, 09 - 08:13 pm Comment from: HotinPlaya

@coops2
"Why would anyone leave their kids with michael jackson?"
sad , but true

Ok I ranted, I really liked MJ,(Thriller) until he lost his way and got weird.

signing off, rest , MJ

Some posters here are so quck to judge. Do they absolutely positively know what happened in Mr Jackson's personal life? Is your hatred and vengance based on true facts? And even if what you believe is true, is not your wish for Mr Jackson's supposed suffering after death not in fact reavealing of your own inner suffereing? Where is your compassion for others and yourselves? I personally don't konw true facts behind the allegations, but I tend to think Mr Jackson was a more gentle and compassionate man than those here consumed by fear, anger, and hate.

.. I bet not one person posting a comment here is black..lol

Jun 26, 09 - 08:28 pm Comment from: LordRobin

Christ, folks! It's not like they're going to pull his music off the air 'cuz he's dead! "OMG! Michael Jackson died? I have to get to iTunes <b>before it's too late!!!<b>

------RM

Jun 26, 09 - 09:05 pm Comment from: james73

@HotinPlaya

sounds like you have some personal demons that you need help with; instead of airing them on mdn why don't you go see a therapist.

i'm just saying.

Jun 26, 09 - 09:10 pm Comment from: HotinPlaya

And if you read my previous post, I said I wa done ranting

peace

Jun 26, 09 - 09:34 pm Comment from: Jubei

I hope all this windfall goes to a trust for his kids. That whoever will be taking care of his children will be caring and loving.

"No previous artist, living or dead, has achieved [this] level of popularity on the music service since it opened in 2003."

That's because there was no ITMS when Elvis died.

Jun 26, 09 - 10:58 pm Comment from: silverhawk

I don't think even Sid Vicious received this much attention at his death.

Jun 26, 09 - 11:35 pm Comment from: steve32465

Sid Who?

wow: ".. I bet not one person posting a comment here is black..lol"

I don't follow. Where is the humor in your comment? What does this issue of child molestation have to do with being black. What are black (people) suppose to commit about. This is not a black issue it is about an individual (MJ) that may have had or did have some serious problems.

You are the problem to make this a racial issue. Your comments of hate cause many more problems than Michael Jackson ever did. Take a look in the mirror and figure out what you need to change about you before counsel others you have no knowledge of.

Something tells me you have some serious issues in your own life that need to be addressed. One of them is ignorance and the other racism. I am a man just like you regardless of my color. Grow up and get over it. Last I checked we can drink from the same fountain. And the water taste the same. Regardless of your color such a crime is apprehensible that he allegedly committed. You don't know. You believe he committed. And if he did he will pay his price. But if he did not you will pay the price for falsely judging and spewing your venom.

You think I am mad but I am not. I just want you to think before you make such a ignorant commit in the future. Unfortunately I am aware of this issue of child molestation. Before careful your comment may hurt a lot of people you never intended it too.

Your friend and brother, Kevin

Last sentence: *Be careful, your comment may hurt a lot of people you may have never intended it too. Think before you speak.

Jun 27, 09 - 02:05 am Comment from: HMCIV

Remember him for Thriller

Jun 27, 09 - 02:49 am Comment from: makemineamac

He was an amazing, amazing talent that impacted me and my friends lives growing up that's for sure.

You take away all the strange things he did, and just look at the music catalog he created, and there are few if any that acheived the overall success he had.

Thriller was incredible, the videos from that album and others before it were ground-breaking then, and hold up just as well today.

I think he was a tortured soul and glad his fight is over, though it is still a loss for the world.

Jun 27, 09 - 04:01 am Comment from: twilightmoon

Rest in Peace Michael.

Jun 27, 09 - 05:25 am Comment from: Jamie

Apparently he managed to whisper a few words to the paramedics as he was being put into the ambulance...

"...put me on the children's ward."

Jun 27, 09 - 06:23 am Comment from: DeRS

"What's wrong MDN can't face the truth that that Mr. Michael Jackson was a child molestor. I have particular knowledge of this."

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How strange then that neither police nor court know of your "knowledge".

Because those two ten-years-apart "cases" were attempts by registered swindlers to get to Michael Jackson.

In the first one, there was a father who for years ignored his daughter and son while they lived with their mother and step-father. However, just when the family got to visit Neverland (there was a plenty of space; there were many guests 24/7), that father appeared all of sudden with his screenwriter aspirations (while he was actually dentist-swindler, whose practice was banned in several states).

Now, Jackson did not like those screenplays to finance those with tens of millions of dollars, and then the father threatened -- it is recorded on tape and can be heard on YouTune -- that if he will not "get what" he "wants", then he will ruin Michael's career, he will drag him to hell.

Shortly after father took the boy out of his current family and few months later accusations appeared. And, as any normal father he did not call police, he went shopping for civil money lawyers.

Prosecution then held two Grand Juries which found no basis to indict Jackson (description of his genitalia did not match to photos of MJ). So the only option was not criminal, but civil suit. Which would last up to seven years of hell. Of course Jackson said, heck with it, forget and move on, and the father took the money happy.

Ten years after, the story was even more obvious. The mother of the family started shopping civil money lawyers two years before her family even met with Jackson. She taught her sons to claim that MJ showed them the porn which did not even exist in nature in the alleged time, what was cracked in the court. She also claimed Jackson wanted to kidnap her to Brazil in hot air baloon.

Not only she simply shopped for civil money lawyers: she specifically asked about possibility of suing Michael Jackson. And, she found the same civil money lawyer who got money for the previous swindler ten years earlier.

No wonder that the jury, which considered "evidence" from both this and last "cases", answered 144 times "no" on 12 indicting questions.

Jun 27, 09 - 06:37 am Comment from: DeRS

"Given how the man behaved over the past 15 years, as well as all the jury member comments about him over the years, the man was most definitely a pedophile."

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That is nonsense. He had 24/7 *acting* and former police officers at the ranch, as well as certified firemen and nurses which are obliged to report whatever suspicious activity about and around children.

Even more: one lady of close personnel worked at Neverland for 20 years and, before that, she herself had the terrible experience of her son being molested. Yet she never saw even a hint on strange behaviour of Jackson or children around.

During 20 years, over 100 people were working on those close-to-Jackson positions and neither one saw anything suspicious (overall, over 1000 people worked at Neverland). Thousands of families were guests at the ranch and nothing happened.

Take any paedophile case: tons of child porno and/or tens of victims. Nothing to do with Jackson. He was sexually mature for thirty five years of his life already and there was no "victims" except for two ten-year-apart cases of registered swindlers trying to get money off him.

More reason for me to lose faith in Humanity.

Jun 27, 09 - 09:29 am Comment from: Always Right

“Why can't you share your bed? The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone. It's very charming. It's very sweet. It's what the whole world should do.”

- Michael Jackson

Jun 27, 09 - 09:41 am Comment from: UltraVisitor

MJ was put on trial for child molesting, witness testimony and evidence were presented, and Jackson was found innocent.

This goes to show you how are legal system works: Just because many think someone is guilty of crime doesn't mean that person will go to jail, unless there is real evidence.

I'm proud to have a legal system where rumors and accusations cannot be considered evidence of crime.

So, Michael is dead. Whatever.I guess it's totally okay to mourn the loss of icons like Elvis, Sinatra or MJ - just please stop calling them musical geniuses, okay? J.S.Bach, Mahler or Strawinskij could be classified as such. I mean, we're talking about a person whose fame was 85% due to Quincy Jones amazing talent as a composer, arranger and producer. I don't want to diminish MJ's impact on pop music in the 80s - because I just couldn't. Still, let's be realistic here...I mean, Prince's left nut has more expression and talent on a bad day, than MJ ever had, mmkay?

What a bunch of slow-minded bigots you all are. No wonder lynch mobs were common in your history.

why are all so hung up on MJs sexuality? Leonard Bernstein had a few of them choirboys and no one really screamed foul when he did in. If Michael did something weird with children, his fcked up father should take the blame anyway. With that kind of a childhood and father - what exactly do you expect?

No matter what anyone's opinion of Michael Jackson's personal life may be, no one can deny the difference he made for people all over the world (inspiration, helping the disadvantages and hungry) etc.

As the saying goes, if you're not pissing people off, you're not playing big enough. I applaud you for playing a bigger game.

If we can only make a fraction of that kind of difference, that would be a worthy life. You got your job done here on the planet, Michael. Thank you.

Might I remind you people that judgment is GOD"s alone.
Or do you feel you are GOD's equal and can pass judgment? To do so means you don't believe in gods teachings, and are likely to suffer the same fate you wish upon this man.

Jun 27, 09 - 02:14 pm Comment from: DeRS

“Why can't you share your bed? The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone. It's very charming. It's very sweet. It's what the whole world should do.”

- Michael Jackson

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Firstly, Jackson also said right away that this has nothing to do with whatever sexual. So whoever read the quote above perverted way has exactly such sick way of thinking.

Jackson grew up in family of 11 people in two-room house. And he slept with brothers, while some of them were adults already. This was common place. In fact, middle-class America has no idea how poorer people live even in their own country. Over the world, billions of people share their bed with children. Children do not want to part with people they love. They sleep with each over: children with children, adults with children.

No, not in sexual way -- this mention for sick people or latent paedophiles who can not imaging people sleeping and not wanting to have sex with children.

Secondly, Children treated Jackson as their brother or something. He had 30 nieces and nephews, and many slept in his bedroom or even in his bed, wherever they dropped sleeping with no special chose. His adult friends slept in his bed. Nothing scary in this since the bed was huge and no one was ever naked or embraced by each other. This all is in court testimony.

Thirdly, Jackson never invited anyone to his bedroom or bed (for example, the last accuser had 10-pound tumour in him during the time his family lived at Neverland, and then even he was getting healthy, he never slept in Jackson's bed simultaneously with him; Jackson slept on the floor, what happened few times in 1,5 years). And, according to testimony, if and only if children asked to stay, their parents were obligatory informed and asked about. And this was also another way around -- if Jackson and children were too busy with arcades that were not in the main house, they could drop sleeping at whatever place they currently were. No one really cared.




Fourthly, Jackson was very spiritual and believing: "If I am guilty of anything, it is of believing what God said about children: “Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not for this is the Kingdom of heaven.” In no way do I think that I am God but I do try to be God-like in my heart." That is why Jackson had those bald children with two-digit-pounds tumours, as well as beds with spine supporters built in the walls of his cinema theatre.

Fifth, when Jackson was really hunted down by all of those kind of vultures (financial, too), he once said:
"I have to find my peace because no one seems to let me be." - Michael Jackson. He was too kind and pure person to exist in our cynical, sick, perverted world.

Jun 27, 09 - 03:00 pm Comment from: DeRS

That is why Elizabeth Taylor<b> said about Michael: "He is filled with deep emotions that create an unearthly, special, innocent, childlike, wise man that is Michael Jackson. He is so giving of himself that, at times, <b>he leaves very little to protect that beautiful inner core that is the essence of him. ... Michael is highly intelligent, shrewd, intuitive, understanding, sympathetic, and generous to almost a fault of himself. He is honesty personified - painfully honest - and vulnerable to the point of pain."

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This is to give an idea who Jackson was as person -- just for those ignorant and judgemental people. Tens people who knew MJ personally tell about the same thing. That is why Lisa Mary wanted to protect him.

There is another testimony of Jackson's soul; from himself: "'Heartbreak Hotel' had revenge in it and I am fascinated by the concept of revenge. It's something I can't understand. The idea of making someone 'pay' for something they've done to you or that you imagine they've done to you is totally alien to me." His life proved that he never really grasped this idea (not even with case of Mottola, which was about preventing him from allowing himself a racist remarks about Itv Gotti, as well as preventing him destroying careers; let alone other much more serious offenders). If he would be more protecting of himself, he would be alive now. Some people repeatedly attacked him through his life.

Jackson grew up in family of 11 people in two-room house. And he slept with brothers, while some of them were adults already. This was common place. In fact, middle-class America has no idea how poorer people live even in their own country. Over the world, billions of people share their bed with children. Children do not want to part with people they love. They sleep with each over: children with children, adults with children.

This is a very abnormal situation brought on by irresponsible family planning.

People don't prefer to sleep with others in the same bed as it interrupts a solid nights sleep as people move in their sleep. Children get suffocated by adults, blood circulation gets cut off the list goes on and on.

Sure couples sleep in the same bed, but a lot of married couples have twin beds, right next to each other, with seperate sheets and blankets. If a partner snores or smokes, they might even have their own seperate bedroom.

MJ was a freak and yes the poor decisions of his family in having so many kids with little proper means to support them is responsible for it.

Just look at Africa, over breeding the available food supply so that everyone starves. Not very intelligent.

Jun 27, 09 - 04:23 pm Comment from: DeRS

judgejudy: it is normal situation around the world. And Jackson family could have nothing with "family planning" since their religion forbid any contraceptives. However many children God will bless them with, they have accept them all.

Yes, there are tragedies around the world with adults sometimes basically non-intentionally killing their children in sleep.

But this all has nothing to do with Jackson, because his bed was huge and no one ever embraced each other. Anyway, most of the time he slept on the floor and was fine with it; he did not care.

So there was nothing "freak" about Jackson in this aspect. He was coming from different culture and lifestyle.

And, he did not have that perverted, sick way of thinking that it is impossible to sleep with children in one two-store room or even in one huge bed without wanting to have sex with them.

That notion of what is "inappropriate" comes from idiotic idea that the only reason of why adults do not have sex with children is because they do not sleep in one room/bed. Otherwise everyone would have sex with children. 8|

The society of such "moral" is sick.

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Here is the just one of example's who was Jackson -- Peter Pan:

Four-months long lawyer of Michael Jackson, BRAFMAN: Johnnie Cochran's (Jackson's lawyer during 1993 case) first words to me were "I want you to go out there and work with Mark Geragos and help save this kid," but he's a 45 year-old, 12-year-old so you've got to be gentle. And that's exactly what he was -- he was a man-child.
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COOPER: So when he was facing these charges early on, I read of one incident where he was crying on your shoulder.

BRAFMAN: It was one of those moments I will probably remember for the rest of my life. I got asked to come to the house he was renting at the time, which was just a crazy house. It was just so big. It was like -- it was like stupid. I mean that was the way that you would characterize this house.

COOPER: Right.

BRAFMAN: And I wasn't expecting to be there that day. I came there alone. He wanted to see me alone. It was early on in the case. He had met earlier with a number of lawyers and he said I want to talk to Ben alone.

And I went upstairs. I sat in the parlor. Waited almost two hours for them to come in and when he walked in I was stunned, because he was in a black suit, with white shirt, black tie, with his black hat, with his white socks.

And I thought he was going somewhere. I said, Michael, why all dressed up? And he said, "Because I wanted to talk to you." And I said ok. And we sat down and we talked. He asked me a couple of very -- sort of personalized questions about the legal proceeding. And it was clear to me that there was a tremendous sense of naivete in his own mind about how things worked.

And then at one point when he began to realize how long it could take and how difficult the process would be and I assured him at end it would be ok but he had to live through this ordeal. He just broke down, began to sob. And he threw himself into my arms as if he were a 10-year-old who had a bad day coming home from school.

And that was when I realized how frail he was, because I put my arm on his back, sort of soothed him. And he had his head on my shoulder. And he was sobbing hysterically. And this went on for a couple of minutes and I remember touching his back and feeling only bones.

I mean it was very eerie and then he straightened said up and he said, "I'm sorry. I just got overwhelmed." And I recognize from that moment that I was dealing with someone that was not only young, but really lonely. Michael Jackson was probably one of the loneliest people I've ever met.
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COOPER: There was another statement made by this guy, Oxman, who is a family spokesman of some sort who said he believes prescription medications were involved or certainly were a problem for Michael Jackson over -- in recent times. Was that something you saw? Was something that you felt?
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BRAFMAN: But there were -- there was pain in Michael Jackson's life. Whether it was real, whether it was imagined, he walked in pain. He functioned in pain. He complained of pain.

He was so thin that you had to believe that the pain was real and you could see in the -- in his speech pattern. Sometimes they were halting that there was a pain that enveloped him. Whether it was real, whether it was psychological, I don't know. I'm not trained in that regard but I worried about Michael Jackson a lot.

Beware folks, the Jackson experts are out in full force today!

right now, somewhere in Las Vegas, 2Pac, Elvis and Jacko are laughing hysterically.

Poor Michael, I miss him already, with all the issues the man had talent, he was the best!

Sorry,

A 45 year old '12 year old' born a young black boy and attempting to turn himself into a adult white woman who builds a kiddie amusement park in his/her own backyard and sleeps with other people's children is...

..a sicko...

And the people who stick up for him (her?) are also sick and delusional.

I am judgejudy and I have ruled!

@judgejudy: you've never visited poor country or poor family, have you? get off your couch and see more of the world. See how poor families live in poor countries like Indonesia or Burma, they just have no choice like you do.

Sometimes, it's even a great luck to have one bed, let a lone one for each person.