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Microsoft exec: Apple ‘not going to catch up’ in smartphone market
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 06:41 PM EST

"Speaking to Pocket-lint at the launch of Windows Mobile 6.1 in London, Scott Rockfeld, group product manager at Microsoft's mobile communications business, when questioned how Apple and Google poses a threat to Microsoft's Mobile OS said: 'We are not at all worried. We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life,'" Katie Scott reports for Pocket-lint.

"Rockfeld was quick to dash Apple's hopes of dominating the smartphone market: 'They are not going to catch up,' he said before reminding us that Microsoft shifted more licences of its mobile platform than RIM and Apple did handsets put together last year," Scott reports.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft really needs to stop feeding their employees those delusional asshole pills.

Factoid: Apple's iPhone has only been available in four countries (they just added countries five and six, Austria and Ireland, two weeks ago) for 10 months (US - June 29, 2007) or less (UK and Germany - Nov. 9, 2007, France - Nov. 29, 2007).

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Apr 01, 08 - 05:46 pm Comment from: Angelus520

Just because they shifted them doesn't mean people actually bought them. Dumba**

Apr 01, 08 - 05:47 pm Comment from: Spark

"We are not at all worried. "

Boy, aren't those becoming famous last words!

Apr 01, 08 - 05:50 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

Need a pucker button for iCal.

Apr 01, 08 - 05:50 pm Comment from: Spark

Can't reporters construct a sentence?

""Rockfeld was quick to dash Apple's hopes of dominating the smartphone market:..."

Rockfeld made a boast. I doubt if he dashed any hopes at Apple. To the contrary, I'm sure he fired up the motivation.

Apr 01, 08 - 05:55 pm Comment from: R2

Shifted more licenses? What in the hell does that mean?

Apr 01, 08 - 05:57 pm Comment from: Cascadians

The lemmings are obviously addicted to the "delusional asshole pills."

Apr 01, 08 - 05:58 pm Comment from: MacDragon

What the hell does "shifted more licenses" mean?

Apr 01, 08 - 06:03 pm Comment from: Tremor

"Shifted more licenses"

Certainly sounds like a little obfuscation to me. If they'd have sold more licenses, then he'd have said so. The way he put it, it sounds like they've just moved a bunch of numbers around a financial statement, and shipped a bunch of CD-ROMs to retailers.

Apr 01, 08 - 06:06 pm Comment from: Streettool

"delusional asshole pills"

You can wash them down with a can of the beige MacroSloth Drink

Apr 01, 08 - 06:07 pm Comment from: MacLovin

@ R2: I think that it means they shifted them off the shelf, and into the garbage where they belong!

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!!! LMFAO!!!

PS: AAPL stock up 6+ points right now, shares are at $149.53!!!

Apr 01, 08 - 06:07 pm Comment from: Jubei

"Microsoft really needs to stop feeding their employees those delusional asshole pills."


LOL.... MDN has some of the best quotes out there. Err those pills came out of Balldys rear end right? yuck!

Apr 01, 08 - 06:09 pm Comment from: cmw

shifted is a British thing...but just turn around the f and the t in that word and you get something far more appropriate... wink

Apr 01, 08 - 06:14 pm Comment from: mr_matalino

"We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life"

Notice how he omitted the phrase "want to use"...

How much will they pay off the mobile company like they did the movie studios...

Apr 01, 08 - 06:22 pm Comment from: Al

Shifted more licenses.

Like Vista and computer manufacturers, Microsoft has sold Windows Mobile licenses to Phone manufacturers. Whether the phones or computers ever get made or shipped or sold is not Microsoft's concern.

They get their tax and they don't give a crap about anything else.

Apr 01, 08 - 06:23 pm Comment from: Petey

More bullshit and fud from the crack addict management at Redmond.

Biggest case of denial I have ever heard.

Apr 01, 08 - 06:28 pm Comment from: Danno Bonano

Agreed MDN. Agreed

Apr 01, 08 - 06:32 pm Comment from: Jeff

"We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life" Cause if we have to use this thing much longer we will all kill our selves :-().

Apr 01, 08 - 06:38 pm Comment from: Famous Grouse

He's just stuck in some sort of anti-Reality Distortion Field - kinda' like the evil Kirk on that star trek episode...

Apr 01, 08 - 06:42 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

This isn't news. Everyone but the MAC lemmings know that Apple is going nowhere in the smartphone market. I give them a year to exit altogether.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Apr 01, 08 - 06:44 pm Comment from: macbones

hahahahaha. Not at all worried. Translation- We're worrying our buts off. We're worried about the desktop market, the phone market, and the desktop publishing market. Even if we maintain a dominant share of those markets, Apple is going to make double digit gains, meaning we are in for double digit loses.

Seriously, I don't know anyone using windows mobile for anything. I do know several people using mac os for everything. . . Micro$oft is a bloated pig, having captured market share, there is no growth remaining, only decline. Sure, Apple will hit this wall as well, but not for 10 years. Sorry microshit. There is only room for loss.

Apr 01, 08 - 06:58 pm Comment from: The Mac That Roared

This statement from Micro$haft is like those old Chrysler "K" car commercials with Ricardo Montalban where he said "More people actually preferred the "K" car than the Mercedes." Yeah...umm...ok...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Apr 01, 08 - 06:59 pm Comment from: R2

I can't believe Microsoft is comparing that license bullshit to actual devices sold. They're delusional.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:13 pm Comment from: ouch

We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life

So, does that mean Windows Mobile will drive you to suicide, or will it just take years off your expectancy?

MS is already well into the death spiral (kinda like a zune going down the toilet). Expect the claims to get more hilarious as the end nears.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:17 pm Comment from: jim

How did they know I moved from a blackberry to an iphone. I didn't tell anyone, nor did anyone ask me.

Sounds like someone isn't acknowledging that big elephant in the room and only sees the peanut in its mouth

Apr 01, 08 - 07:36 pm Comment from: DD from Belgium

As Steve himself said: innovation is all about skating where the puck is going to be, not where it is now.

Some companies (Samsung Instinct) understand the concept of the game, and give it their best shot - to where the puck is now, or was some months ago, only to find that it has moved, and then they'll shoot again.

The gang at Micro$oft today don't know what the puck we're talking about, but happily shout: hey look, I can skate too!!!

If now only the iPhone would make its way to NL... (this version, or the next one, don't really care...)

Apr 01, 08 - 07:36 pm Comment from: alansky

This is the scene where the crowd is wildly gesticulating to the guy who is oblivious to the fact that the monster is sneaking up behind him and is about to pounce...

CRUNCH!!! Gotcha.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:38 pm Comment from: ken1w

Not going to catch up? I thought Apple had already surpassed, at least in the markets where the iPhone is officially available.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:50 pm Comment from: Blue Dream

Boy, when someone is kicking my tail, I just hand them the 'ol more incentive bat so they can kick my tail even quicker. Boy is that fuel for Apple.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:51 pm Comment from: TimD

Well done MDN for a great piece of satire! It is April Fool's Day after all.

Er you have made this up right?

Apr 01, 08 - 07:52 pm Comment from: iSee

iCal this one.

Apr 01, 08 - 07:57 pm Comment from: Crash

Whats the matter fanbois? You really need to keep up. Iphones have sold 4 million, and Microsoft has their os on 14.3 in the last six months, expecting 20 million this year to add to their 10 million last year. For reference The software behemoth recently announced its sales of Windows Mobile-running smartphones around the world in the last six months: 14.3 million. Sure, Apple’s sales don’t even come close at around 4 million http://www.effluxity.com/?p=112
Now go back to sleep and der Fuerher will be along to tuck you in.
Man what a bunch of lemmings

Apr 01, 08 - 08:04 pm Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

The only way the iPhone will "catch up" the Windows Mobile is if they reverse the race so Apple is actually behind rather than watching Windows Mobile fade away in the rear-view mirror.

Apr 01, 08 - 08:18 pm Comment from: john

Catch up? The iPhone has already passed the Windows smartphones, what is this IDIOT talking about!

Apr 01, 08 - 08:18 pm Comment from: His Shadow

For reference The software behemoth recently announced its sales of Windows Mobile-running smartphones around the world in the last six months: 14.3 million.

For the record, the iPhone is available in what? A dozen countries? Your boasting is pointless. Windows Mobile is a joke, no matter how many copies they sell. And by the time that imaginary point arrives where Microsoft "catches up" to the current iPhone platform, Apple will be that much farther ahead of them.

Your point is about as meaningless as saying that there are far more Escorts on the market than there will ever be Mustangs.

Apr 01, 08 - 08:22 pm Comment from: me

"As Steve himself said: innovation is all about skating where the puck is going to be, not where it is now."

If I hear this quote again I think I'm going to scream. It sounds like peopple rattling off quotes in bible camp.

Apr 01, 08 - 08:29 pm Comment from: Woody

I dunno, but I just don't see people stopping you and oohing and aaaahing over a Windows Mobile device. Like they still are over the iPhone -- at least that's my experience.

As for "shifting licences," I'm with the other folks here -- it doesn't have anything to do with actually selling WM devices. Rockfeld's just putting on a brave, confident face for the shareholders.

He knows what the real deal is, and that is that Apple is kicking Microsoft's butt and calling it's mama names.

Apr 01, 08 - 09:29 pm Comment from: R

Just think, now all those millions of Windows mobile users know what their phone OS will look like in a few years. They are so innovative in the way they clutch to the past, isn't it fantabulous?

Apple continues to move things forward. Certainly better. Not fantabulous better, but better better.

Apr 01, 08 - 09:47 pm Comment from: EyeforDesign

If Apple has raised the bar with any product they've put out, and it forces other companies to put out better products, then I'd say Apple is doing their job...and doing us all a big favor.

Isn't that right ZuneThang™?

Apr 01, 08 - 10:22 pm Comment from: Alex

"shifted more licenses"!? WTF does that mean?

Sometimes when I'm taking a really big dump, I shift from one cheek to the other to help move things out.

Apr 01, 08 - 10:41 pm Comment from: Dr Apple

But Mr Balmer - I can't take a delusional asshole pill that large! Good news everyone - they're suppositories!

Apr 01, 08 - 10:56 pm Comment from: poo

I was talking to my pocket lint today too.

Way(!) better conversation than this one tho.

Apr 01, 08 - 11:23 pm Comment from: ElderNorm

Now, Now, Now........

Lets be nice. I am sure that Microsoft sells a lot of licenses. But just what do they sell???
Do they make money for each phone that ships with MS mobile?????
Or do they get a flat fee for each type phone that ships???

How much money do you get to let someone use your software?? A dollar per phone?

All these and more questions we should get answers to, but not on April first. You would never know which answer is right. LOL

en

Apr 01, 08 - 11:42 pm Comment from: Daner

"We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life." - Scott Rockfeld, group product manager at Microsoft's mobile communications business, March 2008

"iLife is like Microsoft Office for the rest of your life." - Steve Jobs, MacWorld, January 2004

The statements differ in context and meaning, but I think we can still bash them a bit for; A) being derivative, and B) being ridiculous. I mean come on, has any mobile platform remained compelling for more than 3 or 4 years?

Sort of makes me wonder if Scott is channeling Meatloaf:

"I couldn't take it any longer/ Lord, I was crazy / When the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave / Started swearing to my God/ And on my mother's grave/ That I would love you till the end of time / I swore I would love you till the end of time."

"So now I'm praying for the end of time / To hurry up and arrive / 'cause if I got to spend another minute with you I don't think that I can really survive/ I'll never break my promise / Or forget my vow / But God only knows what I can do right now/ I'm praying for the end of time / It's all that I can do! / Praying for the end of time / So I can end my time with you!"

Apr 02, 08 - 12:00 am Comment from: iLuvMyMacs

Catch up???

Sure- from their point of view; but they forget... they're traveling in reverse.

Apple has already set the standard / redefined what a smartphone really is supposed to be. The SDK is just the beginning. It's the software stupid.

Apr 02, 08 - 12:09 am Comment from: Macromancer

"If I hear this quote again I think I'm going to scream. It sounds like peopple rattling off quotes in bible camp."

Except this one is true.

Apr 02, 08 - 12:10 am Comment from: GizmoDan

On a related story today, "Microsoft promises full Web browsing for Windows Mobile phones by late 2008".

So by year end, they might have what iPhones have had for 1.5 years by then. That's how far ahead of Apple they are . . .

Apr 02, 08 - 12:16 am Comment from: Lurker_PC

We all should be glad that they didn't "squirt" more licenses.

Perhaps they meant "shafted more licensees"?

Peace.

Apr 02, 08 - 12:38 am Comment from: Zeke

So Microsoft shipped a whole bunch of copies of their mobile OS. The fact is that it lies dormant and unused on 98% of the devices on which it's installed.

According to figures from Net Applications, the iPhone now holds a 0.09% browser market share; a small figure perhaps but remarkable when compared to the market share of Windows CE on 0.06%; this despite at least 20 million Windows Mobile devices having been sold. Simply iPhone users are using their iPhone to surf the web far more often than users of Windows powered mobile phones. Symbian phone users (S60) rank at a lowly 0.01%, despite Nokia having sold hundreds of millions of phones worldwide.

Apr 02, 08 - 12:49 am Comment from: Crabs

@ Crash

Uhm...how exactly did that article you linked to support your arguments? If anything, it added support against your arguments. Unless you read like, oh, I dunno. The first line, and then stopped.

Apr 02, 08 - 12:51 am Comment from: rocklebee

i wonder if they got the quote on video like they did back when iPhone was released and dude gave that arrogant laugh and scoffed at anyone paying $500 for an iPhone, when that's what half of WM smartphones cost retail.

Apr 02, 08 - 01:21 am Comment from: The thing is

...that people actually read that crap and find it credible.

Like, WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO ASK MICROSOFT FOR ITS OPINION ON ANYTHING????

Just means that AAPL stock has still WAY WAY WAY to go because there are still LOTS of people who are going to buy Macs and buy AAPL stock.. They just don't know it yet.

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