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Microsoft CEO Ballmer on the digital home: ‘There is no way that you can get there with Apple’
Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 10:32 PM EST

"Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said at a press briefing in London that consumer take-up of digital technology in the home is at a 'tipping point', which could lead to a dramatic increase in sales for converged devices that integrate video, audio and computer technology," Michael Parsons reports for ZDNet UK. "There are of course no prizes for guessing Ballmer’s pick to win the battle of the digital home -- and who he fingers as the loser."

"'There is no way that you can get there with Apple. The critical mass has to come from the PC, or a next-generation video device,' he said. 'We have had media technology built for years -- Apple, Sony, RealNetworks, have been there for years. What’s changed is that now you have the format, the player, the device, and the service, and that’s what we will have with the launch of Microsoft Media Player 10, the official launch of the Microsoft Network (MSN), and Microsoft's Portable Media Center,' he said. Microsoft's CEO clearly wants to position Microsoft as the good guy in the market, and was at pains to try and position Apple as soft on the principles behind DRM," Parsons reports.

"'We've had DRM in Windows for years. The most common format of music on an iPod is 'stolen'. Part of the reason people steal music is money, but some of it is that the DRM stuff out there has not been that easy to use. We are going to continue to improve our DRM, to make it harder to crack, and easier, easier, easier, easier, to use,' he said," Parsons reports.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Worried about something, Mr. Ballmer? You can repeat "easier" until you're blue in the face (and we have no doubt you will turn a lovely shade of aqua), but even if you did so while dancing, it won't be as seamless as Apple's solution. Too many cooks in the kitchen and all that. With the masses currently growing sick and tired of applying patches and trying way too hard just to try to keep pace with Windows spyware, adware, and other assorted malware, will they choose the Microsoft way again or will they take a good look at their iPods and iTunes and go with the company that makes their digital life the easiest?

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Oct 03, 04 - 10:58 pm Comment from: Bleekr

Really, is there anything better than watching him dance?

And people want to buy their OS from this freak?

Oct 03, 04 - 11:05 pm Comment from: Malice

If you read the article: I can see why Microsoft is working on this in the European market first, Apple has less of a foothold there. Ohhh, Mircosoft and the word 'easy'? I only see those two words in the same sentence when accompanied by "getting a virus or malware." Ok, and about his kid putting his music where he wants it? iTMS...put it on your computer, and 4 others, stream it to your stereo, iPod, CD, in your car, etc! I only see Microsoft good for getting viruses on every Win-based electronic in the house.

Apple can get the job done RIGHT if they want to stick their head in that market while taking the risk of losing their head in the process, but if they pull what they did with iTMS they could pull a nice winning streak. Go, Apple Go!

First post?

Oct 03, 04 - 11:13 pm Comment from: Dr. Quinn

DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!
what a loser.

Oct 03, 04 - 11:15 pm Comment from: Malice

He scares me...a lot!

Developers! ^4

Oct 03, 04 - 11:17 pm Comment from: yankees suck

digital media has a fine home on the mac, maybe windows too, but im not sure why you would say that you just cant get there on the mac. because you can, and people do

oh i cant wait for that "device." can you imagine it? we can listen to music wherever we go, even movies, and photos too!

oh wait my phone does that already

Oct 03, 04 - 11:19 pm Comment from: school girl+paul

"The critical mass has to come from the PC, or a next-generation video device"

Isn't the G5 the next generation video device? Please correct me if i'm wrong-

-paul

Oct 03, 04 - 11:21 pm Comment from: Al

Ballmer, the stupid bastard. Instead of chanting,

"Developers! Developers! Developers!"

He should have been chanting,

"Security! Security! Security!"

Oct 03, 04 - 11:39 pm Comment from: sMac

Was he being interviewed through a microphone in his lapel or did he actually have it pinned to the a$$ he was talking out of?

Oct 03, 04 - 11:50 pm Comment from: SAM

He should just bend over so we can lip read.

Oct 04, 04 - 12:36 am Comment from: blurg

Unbelievable

Oct 04, 04 - 01:54 am Comment from: Zillatron

From the 'dancing Ballmer' video:
"i love this company...yeahhhhhhhh!'

pffft.
can you say 'i love patching windows...yeahhhhhhh!'

i sure can.

Z

Oct 04, 04 - 02:14 am Comment from: One guy from Finland

What a wanker smile

Oct 04, 04 - 02:34 am Comment from: JadisOne

Fathead Ballmer is clueless. People don't want a Microsoft "solution" in their homes. The only reason a huge percentage of consumers has Windows at home is because they believe they have to have it "for work," "compatibility," or whatever other non-reason people force themselves to believe. The only Media Center PCs that have been purchased have been by Gates' family members.

Oct 04, 04 - 02:41 am Comment from: spy

Steve Balmer IS the Taliban reincarnated - only more extreme.

Oct 04, 04 - 03:43 am Comment from: billyg

Now there's a heart attack waiting to happen.

Oct 04, 04 - 05:37 am Comment from: cmartin

If I am not mistaken.. he is so sweaty from all those trips to the server room to reboot all those windows servers! Microsoft is the fisher price of personal computing

Oct 04, 04 - 05:53 am Comment from: feeze

If there is only one thing that Steve Ballmer and Microsoft have done for me it's this,

He made me realise the importance of diet and exercise while I'm young.

I never realised a person could sweat so much, especially around the inner part of the elbow ( I have no idea what that area is called)

Meanwhile I think I will continue to watch my new Star Wars DVD box set on the ultimate portible media centre, my iBook with a 12 INCH SCREEN!!!!

Oct 04, 04 - 06:03 am Comment from: Charko

Isn't this just desperation and bad taste on the part of Microsoft?

Can you imagine an executive from Sony, BMW, or Coca Cola, for example, 'warning' the public not to buy the rival product?

Of course not. They know how infantile and pathetic it would sound

- and how it would be received.

Oct 04, 04 - 06:09 am Comment from: Hywel

What I find strange is that he tries to downlplay Apple. He's claiming that it can't come from Apple, but also basically stating that it could come from anywhere else.

Now he may well be right that Apple won't deliver this, but he certainly can't be sure. To say that they can't is simply a lie. He's simply showing prejudice, and prejudice is a sign of ignorance and fear.

Oct 04, 04 - 06:09 am Comment from: gscottr

Mr. Ballmer must speak kindly of Microsoft. The fact that he mentions, or gives recognition to Apple suggests that he has concern about the competition. Having never expressed the idea that Apple is not the answer to the solution, would have been better. He should be worried, and probably is. Don't fault him for what he has to say. Well go ahead if you want.
The inner part of the elbow is the Antecubital Fossa, and I am assuming that you mean that part of the elbow that dissappears and forms the crease when you flex your arm.

Oct 04, 04 - 06:29 am Comment from: feeze

Antecubital Fossa, thanks gscottr, WOW learnt two things in one day, that rarely happens.

Oct 04, 04 - 06:35 am Comment from: Mr. Bungle

Ballmer & Elaine Benes have the same dance instructor!

Oct 04, 04 - 06:39 am Comment from: NoPCZone

We'll CONSIDER the thought when Micro$oftopoly meets these goals:
1 Releases vrsions of WiMP (Windows Media Player) for LINUX & Mac OS that are not "broken" out of the box.
2 Unbundles WiMP technology from it's security plagued XP OS software.
3 Releases client software for Outlook Exchange Servers on LINUX & Mac OS that work properly.
4 Create a version of Internet Explorer that conforms to Web Standards & unbundles it from XP.
5 Removes roadblocks from MSN websites that "block" LINUX & Mac OS computers as well as Windoze using non-IE browsers from accessing multi-media.
6 Conform to and support industry standard file formats and protocols.

I said "consider" on a level playing field.

Oct 04, 04 - 07:08 am Comment from: BuriedCaesar

Other sites have picked up on the comment in this story that Ballmer made about most music on an iPod being 'stolen'. He's calling us all thieves. I'd like to ram my 15 GB iPod, one that is completely full to brimming with LEGITIMATELY PURCHASED MUSIC, down his throat for that comment alone.

Oct 04, 04 - 08:06 am Comment from: Pio of Switzerland

I was so upset when I read this...

Remember, M$ produces faulty S/W (http://www.gcn.com/archives/gcn/1998/july13/cov2.htm) and is a convicted felon (monopolist).

Seeing M$ calling iPod users thieves is quite inappropriate, considering that M$ was convicted for piracy in 2001 in Nanterre (suburb of Paris, France: http://www.diaplous.org/nanterre.htm)

M$ is not consequent in its action (anit-Unix site runs Unix: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-872266.html)

If I remember well, M$ told the public how to work around DRM to play tracks on iPod or other players. Cute...

Oct 04, 04 - 08:17 am Comment from: Sly

Gee Mr Balmer: Wow I didn't realize the 1,835 songs I have on my iPod were stolen....how 'bout 0 of the 1,835 songs on my iPod.... Now why don't you make a music player that is worth something...maybe version 11 might do it. Sly

Oct 04, 04 - 08:29 am Comment from: fandango

My, my... it sounds to me like the desperate act of a chronic liar not wanting people to hear the truth.

Now that Apple has had several home-run products since S.J. returned, Apple is looking more and more like a serious threat. Those a$$ho!es at Micro$haft are getting nervous about people becoming aware of the beauty, simplicity, and security of The Macintosh Way.

Here's to hoping that Apple continues on its streak of doing things right, and that one day we can call Microsoft 'beleagured.'

Oct 04, 04 - 08:51 am Comment from: giofoto

"...maybe version 11 might do it."

More like Version 19, if at all.

Oct 04, 04 - 09:02 am Comment from: mac dood

Micro$oft IS beleagured...

It is only just now that people are beginning to realize it

Oct 04, 04 - 09:24 am Comment from: DH

I have to agree with Billy Boy...
Apple will not get there.
For the last 2 years Apple has already been where he and MS want to get!
I just hope that consumers do have enough brain to stay away from MS and their flawed products (including their DRM).

Tssss... first blatantly copying the iTunes Music Store and then saying that Apple will never get it right. Is this guy for real???

Oct 04, 04 - 09:28 am Comment from: One Guy From The Bronx

He is a wanker! But you're just as bad Filame you lightweight!

Oct 04, 04 - 09:47 am Comment from: Red Wings

Can we start a petition to congress prohibiting MS from expanding into markets it will never understand or improve? Cause all this Me too crap is beginning to hurt my head.

Is it just me or does Ballmer the caveman have a unibrow?

Dance monkey dance

Oct 04, 04 - 09:54 am Comment from: Yor Papa

Hey, Ballmer, speaking of thieving, isn't that how Microsoft got every applicaton it sells?

Oct 04, 04 - 10:03 am Comment from: Road Warrior

Gee, windoze format, apple format, sony format. Who makes this stolen format? What extension on a file shoule I look for, .sto???

Oct 04, 04 - 10:09 am Comment from: rogozhin

I take no advice from a computer company CEO that sold laundry detergent prior to his current gig.

Oct 04, 04 - 10:32 am Comment from: amyhre

Apple. It's everywhere you want to be. Wait, that's a credit card slogan. It's true though. With Airport Express, I can stream my music to my stereo system/amplifier, which also has connections to the DVD/VCR and TV. So we got music going to a place that I can blast my whole house with. I realize that advertising is starting to become less effective in it's traditional mediums, television and radio. More people listening to iPods and *shudder* Dull DJ's render radio ads obsolete. Less people paying attention to commercials on television equal less sales. More advertising is going into games and the Internet. Now, Microsoft assumes that PC's are becoming an entertainment center, and they are right. Many people play online games or offline games on their computers. But having a computer replace my DVD/VCR combo, the Media Center PC cannot do. It can be a TiVO box granted. But do I want my entertainment experience limited to the living room? Am I just going to use a computer there? Hell, no. I certainly don't want my DVD crashing every other scene or telling me that I can't watch some DVD for some stupid reason Microsoft throws at me. Media Center PC, no. I'll take an iBook or AlumiBook anyday. I can make my own media easily and I can play it back. I can carry DVD's and play them in-flight. I can listen to butt-loads of legal, got that Ballsmer, legal songs through iTunes. I can play games on the go. Course I can do that with my lovely GameBoy Advance too. I'm not seeing the advantages in me buying a Media Center PC. I see the advantages for Microsoft plainly. They can foist off some cheap crap on customers as an ideal solution. I got news. Microsoft is a company manufacturing problems. Apple is a company who sells solutions. If Ballsmer ever get his head out of his ass, we'll see that jealousy truly is ugly.

Oct 04, 04 - 10:51 am Comment from: meat of moose

"Steve Ballmer said at a press briefing in London that consumer take-up of digital technology in the home is at a 'tipping point'..."

Oh, my, Longhorn must be days from commercial release!

Wait, maybe Ballmer means PMC's are shipping by the boat load!

"...to where we may get a device that can take on critical mass."

Oh, no, Microsoft has nothing but nothing, it's all rumors, falsehoods, and fear.

What is Ballmer’s title anyhow? “Chief Executive Officer, Vaporware Development.”

Oct 04, 04 - 11:03 am Comment from: Bart Simpsonhead

A man that age, who, if you squint real hard looks like Uncle Fester, must be taking too much 'Columbian Dancing Powder'

Oct 04, 04 - 11:12 am Comment from: dix

That's right, Windowz & a Digital Home go hand-in-hand. So when my Windowz crashes in the night for no reason as usual, my blinds & window shutters won't open. I wake up & go back to sleep because I looked at my Windowz clock which sez 1am & it's still dark outside. Does that mean, as I'm gonna be late for work, will I be able use this excuss everyday? Um, how long will it be do you think, before they fire me?

Oct 04, 04 - 11:37 am Comment from: Cow Tipper

To me the "tipping point" is when you sneak up on the longhorn when it's asleep and push it over.

Oh wait.....we're still waiting for a steer to ship!


muhahahahahahahahaaaaa, ballmer steering the M$ ship ... now that's more fun that tipping cows ever was.

Oct 04, 04 - 11:40 am Comment from: mike

soft on DRM? got it.. cuz.. we all know.. WMA's at about 25% marketshare.. uhhm... yea..kick ass..

no matter what you say, Ballmer.. SOMEONE's buying.. 135 millions songs and up.. Which is more than we can say for any Dell DJ's

Oct 04, 04 - 01:11 pm Comment from: Tyk

Runnin' scared. This guy is such a bozo. Microsoft has been behind the curve of this one from day one... and always will be.

Oct 04, 04 - 01:42 pm Comment from: mac zealot

Microsoft has (too) long assumed that if Microsoft makes it, people will buy it. This attitude is hardly the breeding ground for innovation, progress, and vision.

So, rather than present new products Ballmer, Gates, et al can only offer weak promises, vague ideas, and imprecise delivery schedules.

Microsoft can forget the sloganeering and company pep talks, if Microsoft can’t make something useful, functional, and elegant they might as well give up, cash it in, and admit failure.

Oct 04, 04 - 01:43 pm Comment from: Bizarro Jeff

Ohhhhhh, pipe down, Monkey Boy! You reek of bananas, monkey crap and desperation.

Bizarro Jeff

Oct 04, 04 - 01:45 pm Comment from: Republican Right-winger

"There is no way that you can get there with Apple.”

I’m sure that Longhorn users agree completely.

Oct 04, 04 - 03:58 pm Comment from: pit-le-rouge

Very interesting this opinion from Steve-the-monkey.
Kepp coll monkey, go to bed and sleep.
It's better for you to count the sheep (who are a lot to work on windoze...)

Oct 04, 04 - 07:50 pm Comment from: John Steckler

Ballmer says, "The most common format of music on an iPod is 'stolen'." And he has gratuitiously offended me. I will now begin the process of removing all vestiges of Microsoft software from every computer I control (?150). I will no longer put up with Microsoft's arrogance, greed, and shoddy software. Ballmer's comment was the last straw.

Oct 07, 04 - 10:14 pm Comment from: trippah

John Steckler - hahah

Why do people take these "greedy, arrogant" people so serious? you only make it worse on yourself and others.

As much as he is rich and famous, he is also old and bold.

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