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Oct 17, 08 - 08:48 am Comment from: DakRoland

So what is it, Fester? Is Windows 7 just "Windows Vista with clean-up in user interface [and] improvements in performance" or is it "a real release"? Make up your mind, moron.

"'Windows Vista is good, Windows 7 is Windows Vista with clean-up in user interface [and] improvements in performance,' Ballmer said,"


From a marketing perspective, it's the worst sentence ever spoken by a CEO. Windows7=Vista

Oct 17, 08 - 08:51 am Comment from: NCIceman

Uncle Fester strikes again....MDN gets the best photos of him...

Is anyone surprised by this "revelation?" What's the campaign slogan, "Lipstick on a pig?"

Balmer, you lard ass, shut the fsck up.

Oct 17, 08 - 08:57 am Comment from: Metryq

Windows 7, one of the seven deadly sins of computing: a resource glutton that provokes wrath in the users...

Oct 17, 08 - 08:59 am Comment from: SmartyGuy

Reminds me of "Volvo: boxy, but good." Dudley Moore as a deranged ad executive in "Crazy People."

Oct 17, 08 - 09:00 am Comment from: ron

Microsoft CEO Ballmer says Windows 7 is Vista, just ‘a lot better’

Anything would be 'a lot better'.

Oct 17, 08 - 09:04 am Comment from: ron

Photoshop the picture of Ballmer inside a Mac computer, trying to get out, with his hands pushing against the screen.

I have a screensaver with Picasso doing just that. Looks great.

Oct 17, 08 - 09:05 am Comment from: Arnold Ziffel

I can guarantee the company I work for will continue to run XP, regardless of how "just a lot better" Windows 7 will be.

MS--going down the tubes (yeah, that's for you, Sen. Stevens) for the next 7 years.

Ballmer: "Windows 7 will be like Windows Vista, but more so "

Now, that's a recipe for success, because everyone has been begging for more Windows Vista !
Genius!

Ballmer's job is to get out there and give the impression that he cares.

Wow, only another two years until Microsoft will be ready to release a version of Windows that sorta' kinda' works "good enough". We can hardly wait. No need to consider better alternatives available today. Who's he kidding?

Oct 17, 08 - 09:23 am Comment from: MrScrith

"acknowledging that how the OS takes advantage of multi-core processors is still an open question."

Tiger did this well, Leopard too, and Snow Leopard will be a significant update to how this is done... and Microsoft is still trying to figure out how to do it??? I guess the copier broke down...

Oct 17, 08 - 09:23 am Comment from: TexasAg03

"'[Windows 7], it's Windows Vista, a lot better,' said Ballmer

A McRib is "a lot better" than a pile of sh!t. Does that make it good?

Oct 17, 08 - 09:24 am Comment from: ABQ Peter

"…If people want to wait, they certainly can…"
that is awfully nice of him, letting people wait if they want to. (actually he is acknowledging they are physically capable of waiting, but i am assuming - from his previous attempts to use the english language - that he doesn't know the difference between "can" and "may".)

It's going to be another advertising experiment... "try this operating system, its really cool, lots of neat features. GOTCHA! It's actually Vista!!!"

its all new, but basically the same core code.

maybe, just maybe, that's the problem.

That photo says, "These fingers are mine. They work for me. They have passed the sniff test and they will probe every orifice willing or not until I get the answers I want. I'm not afraid to use them. Just smell them. Go on. DO IT."

"Windows 7 will be like Windows Vista, but more so"

I'm going to use this line to scare customers away from Windows 7.

Let's start a word of mouth campaign, people. We have it straight from the highest source at microsoft, the CEO, that "Windows 7 will be like Windows Vista, but more so".

So... Windows ME was the bastard step child to Windows XP; and Vista is the bastard step child to Windoze 7.

Oddly enough, of all this crapware... XP is still the most stable.

I wonder how many versions of Windoze 7 Ballmer will dazzle consumers with.

Windows 7 is just a clean up Vista...
So how much is this going to cost to clean up your Vista OS?

I bet Microsoft will sell this for a premium price and market this as a major upgrade but in reality it's a Vista's clean up mess.

In other words, you'd have to be an idiot to buy Vista.

I just have to laugh on this one.

Okay, Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) was a great release. Apple isn't satisfied with the performance, so out will come 10.6 (Snow Leopard) — which will be a 'minor' release in terms of features but a nice overhaul of the code to prepare for the future.

Vista was an awful release that even the hardest core Windows lovers disdain, so Microsoft will come out with a 'major' release with very few changes in terms of features with some tweaking of the code to appease people (of course, even Balmer says there won't be any major re-write of the code).

This is a perfect example of why Apple is so far ahead right now in terms of software technology. It should open the eyes of all computer enthusiasts to see the differences in how the two companies are handling their products.

OS X gets faster and better and calls it minor. Vista gets supposedly faster and better and they call it major.

Spitfires

Windows Vista with clean-up in user interface [and] improvements in performance,' Ballmer said," Keizer reports. [..] 'It's a real release,' he said.

That makes W7 a SERVICE PACK, you monkey-assed moron!!

Imagine if Yugo had "redesigned" their car with a reshaped grill insert (after all, to marginally improve looks and performance).

It'd still be a fscking Yugo.

Oct 17, 08 - 09:50 am Comment from: lodger

Hear all that sniffing he keeps doing in the video ?

Uncle Fester appears to have a huge coke problem...

Oct 17, 08 - 09:53 am Comment from: MacintoshSoftwareList.com

Sounds like Apple stock is going up. MS stock going down.

It's the same way certain automakers work.

Some steadily (and quietly) advance their models through "continuous improvement".

While others trumpet major "re-resigns" every few years, which are really just re-bent body panels on an existing chassis.

Enough said.

I like a McRib every now and then. Now they'll always remind me of Vista, damn.

That photo says, "These fingers are mine. They work for me. They have passed the sniff test and they will probe every orifice willing or not until I get the answers I want. I'm not afraid to use them. Just smell them. Go on. DO IT."

For one we should thank GOD for that dorm room assignment!

Imagine if Ballmer had ended up being a doctor. Or a jailer...

let me get this straight: Windows 7 is essentially Vista SP3 or whatever, and I have to pay a full upgrade price for it (and possibly buy new hardware)? Why would I, or anyone else do that?

Oct 17, 08 - 10:03 am Comment from: Grifterus

"Windows Vista is good"

Whatever happened to "Steve Job's reality distortion field"?

Makes me laught.

Who's distorting reality now?!?!

"Imagine if Ballmer had ended up being a doctor."


Ballmer: "Sorry, Connie. I'm working late at the orifice. But please lie in a tub of ice until I get home. Thanks, hon."

Why would I, or anyone else do that?

Because MS has a way of making things non-optional.

First, they'll stop supporting (and selling) Vista in favor of Win7.
Of course they'll update Office to only work with Win7.

And second, couldn't they de-authorize everyone's licenses (esp. corporate bulk licenses), giving users the "choice" of either paying up or facing the BSA Gestapo?

I'd rather deal with the Mafia. At least they have class.

Oct 17, 08 - 10:16 am Comment from: Macromancer

"'We can do a lot of innovation for a lot of years on the same code base,'"

And by 'innovation' he means debugging.

You can't blame Microsoft for making billions on crap if consumers are just that apathetic and stupid.

Oct 17, 08 - 10:27 am Comment from: Jubei

180 million in two years. That system MS has in owning the desktop market is their cash cow. They get paid for every POS that ships from manufacturers and tacks it on as a valid Vista Purchase.

Then MS walks around and try to convince people that these 180 million Vista sales were bought by users that really, really want Vista. LOL

Oct 17, 08 - 10:35 am Comment from: Jamie

I think Ubuntu will clean up. I'd like OS X to stay on Apple hardware. As long as Ubuntu gets a few things sorted out (like how to easily format a hard drive) they will overtake Windows.

To use the net, email and a few letters, all you need is Ubuntu.

And all those Vista owners will have to pay $150 for the upgrade.

vista/windows7 = bag of hurt

Oct 17, 08 - 10:37 am Comment from: Jamie

Oh yeh, almost forgot, you can slum it in Windows through Ubuntu for free (well apart from the Microsoft tax, I mean licence using VirtualBox - simply stunning.

http://www.virtualbox.org

This is truly brilliant news. Wonderful. Would love to be at a board meeting at Apple when they discuss Microsoft... Could just see Steve and Tim doing an impersonation of Balmer and WinDoze 7 Dev Dude....

Hey... I got an idea. We have a product that the end users don't appear to like very much....
What should we do.....
Arrrrr - I know, let's bolt some more shit on the side and call it WinDoze 7.
Naaaahhh - that would slow it even more....
SO.....
Oh, OK - Cool, "Windows 7 will be like Windows Vista, but more so"...
Great - that's it....
...but's that doesn't make any sense in English.....
SO.....
OH, OK - Cool....
...but won't I have to re-code the base from the ground up to actually get it to work...
NO - don't waste time on that nonsense (Throw Chair across room).....
...but it probably won't even run properly...
SO.....
OH, OK - Cool....
We just stick it in a box, spend all the rest of the money we have on advertising and hope the minions buy it...
UGHHH....
I will go around and INSIST everyone buys it....
Cool....HOW?...
New terms and conditions....everyone MUST upgrade when we get the thing out of the door or we invalidate their license...
OH, OK - Cool.
It's a Winner.....
....Cool...

Attach usual picture of Balmer doing Uncle Fester Impression.... and for everything else...there's MasterCard.

Steve and Tim sit down and, after rapturous applause, comment that actually there is nothing TO do as MicroSloth are doing a fine job of screwing themselves up.... Next Point.....

Oct 17, 08 - 10:53 am Comment from: since1985

In MDN's photo above, Steve Ballmer's showing how multi-touch will work in Windows 7.

Oct 17, 08 - 11:00 am Comment from: since1985

My mistake. In MDN's photo above -- regarding the promised multi-touch features of Windows 7 -- Steve Ballmer is signaling which version of Windows when multi-touch actually arrives.

Oct 17, 08 - 11:03 am Comment from: flappo

saying winbloze 7 is better than vista is a bit like saying cat shit tastes better than dog shit

it's still just

..

@since1985

Nice one. Missed that.

Clearly demo'ing the 10 finger empty trash function..... Obviously preceded by the obligatory 8 windows asking if you are absolutely sure you want to actually do something.

Either that or he is starting on some form of Tantric anti-chair-throwing calming course.

Oct 17, 08 - 11:06 am Comment from: Demon

it's Ballmer's job to spray paint the Vista and Vista/Windows 7 (aka Vista.5) turds and sell them.
Got the love the fact that MS needs a power hammer to pound a finishing nail into balsa-wood.

Oct 17, 08 - 11:13 am Comment from: since1985

Serenity now.

Hurray! Balmer! You're killing M$!! That's a great job!!

Oct 17, 08 - 11:16 am Comment from: Tommyr

It's just going to suck a lot better!

Ballmer needs to shut his ape hole. Saying 7 is Vista is NOT HELPING Microsuck.....What an assclown!

Windows 7 is to Vista as Leopard is to Tiger.

They're taking the Apple approach. Releasing minor releases every year or two.

Saying Windows 7 is a service pack isn't much different than saying Tiger was a service pack to Panther.

Actually, Microsoft is now using Service Packs to "Add Value" rather than explicitly fix things, which is exactly what Apple has been doing with point releases.

Windows 7 fits in somewhere between an Apple point release and a Windows Major Release in significance.

Windows users can only hope that they charge fairly for it... and don't offer a plethora of choice, but rather adopt more of apple's business practices so Apple can have some healthy competition.

Oct 17, 08 - 12:01 pm Comment from: mm

I love Ballmer--he's such a dumbass. Truly an idiot. Best thing to happen to Apple in years.