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Mar 05, 08 - 03:14 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Automatic Crash Recovery"

A window pops-up that recommends, "Buy a Mac".

Cancel or Allow?

Mar 05, 08 - 03:15 pm Comment from: JAYGEE

Who would want to use Safari, when there is Firefox?

Mar 05, 08 - 03:45 pm Comment from: Gordon

I find Firefox pretty ugly (and PC-like) compared to Safari.

Firefox was and is my favorite browser for Windows (just as Thunderbird was my favorite email client for Windows), but on a Mac: Safari beats Firefox and Mail beats Thunderbird.
Though I think Safari's bookmarks-utility is horrible. And Firefox has it's ever growing list of add-ons, of which some are very useful.

Whenever, I use safari on windows it is so slow that I usually end up closing the program before a page even opens in the browser. Firefox and (gasp) IE don't give me the same issue in windows. I have been trying to figure out for months what the issue is but to no avail. Anyone have any ideas? Love Safari on my mac but in windows it's moves at a glacial pace.

Mar 05, 08 - 03:58 pm Comment from: iamdj

The extensions or "Add ons" for FF are AWESOME. FF 3 do soon looks a LOT better than 2.

I like Safari, but use FF for the shear amount of extensions.

Insert "extensions" joke here_________________________.

Safari IS faster, however, your right F4W, the bookmarks utility is saddening. Its the reason I still use Firefox... >.>

WebSlices? Your joking? LOLz...god they are so obvious at copying.

Mar 05, 08 - 04:02 pm Comment from: Maginary

IE8's graphics are reminiscent of the old Java Swing graphics. They are repulsive and hideous. I denounce and reject MS's graphics.

Safari is just okay.

Apple's style of Bookmarking is terrible though! That's enough reason to use Firefox.

Mar 05, 08 - 04:10 pm Comment from: ericdano

So, Zune Tang, how is IE8?

When I use Windows, I use Safari. I didn't like the display at first, but after a while, when I go back to FireFox on Windows, I realize how much better things look with Safari....

Mar 05, 08 - 04:35 pm Comment from: ElderNorm

I think its wonderful that Bill and Steve are thinking about us. After all, a system that has a --- RECOVERY from AUTOMATIC CRASHES --- is neat.

But....er......why do we need Automatic Crashes??? :-(

en

Mar 05, 08 - 04:43 pm Comment from: LordRobin

"WebSlices"? So let me get this straight: Microsoft is expecting websites to incorporate features that will be usuable with only one browser? I'm sorry guys, but that ship sailed more than five years ago. I don't think any site does Internet Explorer-only content anymore, except for cases where the site needs Microsoft DRM for their video content.

------RM

Safari is nice except its memory leaks more than your cheap supermarket brand baby diaper...

For Firefox doubters (or those who hate its ugly look), FF3.0 looks and acts like it's supposed to as a native Mac app. Not to mention its plenty fast and has fixed all major source of memory leaks as far as I am concerned.... But it's good to have Safari/webkit around to keep the big boys on their toes...

IE is... um... for losers who don't know any better...

Mar 05, 08 - 04:55 pm Comment from: ron

@JAYGEE,Who would want to use Safari, when there is Firefox?

Because it's MUCH faster. On my new Mac anyway. I like Firefox but it's slower than Safari.

I pity the folks left at my old office who were restricted from using any browser under Windows except IE. (I was one of the few who had a Mac, so I could use Firefox and Safari because IE doesn't exist under OS X.) Now I'm free of such small mindedness and can use whatever I please.

Mar 05, 08 - 05:09 pm Comment from: TheConfuzed1

Actually Jaygee, I prefer Safari for most of my surfing, but I also keep a copy of FireFox in my apps folder for the occasional site that doesn't want to cooperate with Cupertino.

Mar 05, 08 - 05:16 pm Comment from: Hm...

IE 8 is a major leap ahead for Microsoft. And just think, soon the seamount that is IE might even break the surface and experience usability on a par with the first Safari or Firefox. At least in an iteration or two. Or maybe three, or ...

Mar 05, 08 - 05:29 pm Comment from: Hm...

@ Raymond from DC
My sympathies to your old colleagues. It's the standard IT mainstream arrogance: "We know better than you what you need to do your job." And they don't see the irony even though they can't do your job.

It's not unlike the spot where I work. We are now prohibited from putting in wireless access points individually. Ok, that's reasonable and probably even the right idea. But, we have exactly one model of hardware we are required to use -- and it usually comes in at between $800 and $1000 per access point! But it sure makes IT's job easier. At the expense of my budget...

Downloaded and installed IE8 Beta 1 in my Dell XPS with Vista, been using it all afternoon and haven't noted a single problem with it yet. Unlike Safari for Windows, whch is slower than slow, doesn't work with my online banking websites, crashes constantly and is generally the poorest excuse for a browser I've ever seen.

Safari on my wife's MacBook Pro is respectable, but it ain't as good as Firefox.

When I compare OS-bundled browsers (OS X and Windows), Microsoft has the better product. IE7 has proven itself more secure than Safari, has better integration with the desktop environment and applications, works with more websites (my banking websites don't work at all with Safari), and is faster than Safari could ever hope to be.

When Safari was under development and in its early stages it was pretty fast on Mac, but has turned into a pig and memory hog as of late. I'm not impressed

Mar 05, 08 - 08:04 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

Safari for OS X is fine. Just fine. I prefer Firefox and Camino, but Safari for Windows has to be the worst Windows based web browser I've ever used.

Note: IT IS STILL IN BETA, and I have hopes that Apple will bring it up to the level of reliability and performance of the OS X version in the not too distant future.

That being said, the only thing wrong with IE 7 for Windows and indeed IE in general is that MS refuses to be an equal player on the field. Developers seeking to take advantage of IE apparently need to break every other browser out there.

Mar 05, 08 - 10:51 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ MDN

Best headline EVER.

Safari (on Mac) doesn't work with MacDailyNews or Hotmail - probably because Telstra won't install a modern ADSL2+ service here in Byron Bay, so ADSL is sloooooooooow. Slow response times from some of the ad services on MDN mean that Safari times out, and Hotmail on Safari goes into an authentication loop most o the time,. so I have Firefox for those and I use Safari otherwise. On Windows I use IE - who cares what version, they are all awful.

Mar 06, 08 - 06:44 am Comment from: Hm...

@ Former Mac User

Great piece of satire, Dude. Gave me a good morning chuckle...

Mar 06, 08 - 08:28 am Comment from: Rip Ragged

Internet Explorer 8 will take us one step closer to a two-tiered system. There will be the Microsoft proprietary internet, for those who buy computers, software, and peripherals at Wally World, and the real internet for The Rest of Us. Or, more to the point, there will be two kinds of computers:

PCs – personal computers – computers that look an operate like 21st century technology should, and

PLCs – payday loan computers – that look like they were designed by the Dukes of Hazzard and operate sporadically and unpredictably. Oddly, most PLCs will run Windows or Linux as their primary operating system.

Mar 06, 08 - 08:42 am Comment from: smyhre

I really don't know why people are having such a hard time with the Windows version of safari they must like screwing up their computer a lot cause it works perfectly fine on my install of windows and several others I have put it on. Whatever the reason I'm having no problems with speed of it at all.

Firefox is better than IE is better than safari

Mar 07, 08 - 07:24 pm Comment from: PT

#1 concern with safari -> bookmark system is absolutely hopeless. It is REALLY un-Apple-like (guess that makes it an orange or maybe that should be a LEMON). Intuitiveness is the order of the day, well supposed to be...by safari's bookmark system = big pile of crap. You'd think microsh*t had designed it.

Mar 07, 08 - 07:26 pm Comment from: PT

@rip-ragged

linux is free bonehead...

Mar 07, 08 - 07:33 pm Comment from: PT

@rip-ragged

and a mac isn't regarded as a PC (despite the same hardware) if that is the point you're trying to make about PC's running 21st century technology. You mean perhaps:

Macs and linux on PC's are right thing
PDLC = microshi*t windoze machines

Mar 07, 08 - 07:35 pm Comment from: PT

actually, on reflection, does a mac running windoze (I know, I know, the heresy of the notion) then become a PC while it is in that (horrendous) state or is its mac-ness for always? (thus, by extension, can said inherent mac-ness then legitimize windoze?...aaaah!)

therefore: my apologies rip-ragged for calling you a bonehead.