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Microsoft intros new Zune devices, software, redesigned online store
Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 09:35 AM EST

In a move sure to excite tens, Microsoft Corp. Chairman Bill Gates and Corporate V.P./Steve Jobs-wannabe J Allard yesterday unveiled the next generation of the poorly-received Zune portable media players, software and online store. Gates and Allard also introduced Zune Social, a beta online music "community" Web site.

The two new models of Zune portable media players feature the new "Zune Pad," a squarish circle, or "squircle" button for navigating the device, as well as wireless sync, which allows Zune devices to automatically sync over the device owner’s home wireless network when it is connected to an AC adaptor, in a dock or speaker dock accessory.

MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft "innovation" at work: Zunes offer "wireless" sync when connected to something with a wire.

The few Zune owners that do exist will receive new software features, the redesigned PC and device software and access to the new Zune Marketplace when the whole mess is released to the public in mid-November.

“Twenty years ago we bet the company on an integrated productivity suite of word processing, spreadsheets and presentations, and we changed the way people work,” Gates said in the press release. “Today we’re making big bets on games, music, video and connecting these entertainment experiences to help change the way people play.”

MacDailyNews Take: Bill bets so much, he oughta look into Gamblers Anonymous. So, Mr. High Roller, why don't you bet the company on something meaningful for once, like quality? Then you can lose that bet, too, and the world can finally be done with the Dark Ages of Personal Computing, multibillion dollar Xbox hardware failures, mediocre music efforts, and whatever other crap you've half-baked and served up to the ignorant anyway.

“By tapping into customers’ passion for music with Zune Social, we’re starting to change the game,” Allard said in the press release. “This lets us start building a new, more valuable kind of relationship with consumers that, combined with other Zune innovations, will start to drive the entire music industry forward.”

MacDailyNews Take: Corporate mumbo-jumbo doesn't sell derivative devices based on old ideas, Mr. Clean. One would have thought you'd have learned that the last time around, but you probably missed it while listening to one of your 9 iPods and using your Mac. We don't blame you; using a Mac and a bunch of iPods is certainly better than facing the truth that you're not Steve Jobs, will never be Steve Jobs, and you work for a company that makes your father's OS, your father's office suite, an unprofitable lemon game console, a bunch of other failures, and - again - derivative devices based on old ideas.

“The time is right to let go of the older business models and recognize that consumers want something different when it comes to music today,” said Terry McBride, CEO of Nettwerk Music Group, in the press release. “People are looking for simple ways to find great music and easily take it with them wherever they want to go, and Microsoft is not afraid of doing things differently to deliver on this vision.”

MacDailyNews Take: We've seen smaller loads being shoveled off pig farms by back-hoe.

Microsoft announced three new models of Zune portable digital media players:

• A black Zune 80GB hard-drive model, which has a 3.2-inch screen and comes with headphones for US$249.99
• Zune 4GB ($149.99) and 8GB ($199.99) flash models, both available in pink, green, black and red. The new Zune devices feature the "squircle" navigation button.

Together with the original Zune 30GB, now sans brown, that's about it.

Microsoft's promised new mid-November Zune features include the following:
• Wireless sync. Zune devices will automatically sync with their WIndows PC via a home wireless network and will start on its own when the device is placed in its dock or plugged in to charge. Alternatively, the sync can be started manually.
• Extended wireless sharing. Share select full-length songs, albums, playlists, pictures and even audio podcasts from device to device. Consumers can now listen to any song received up to three times with no time restrictions, and they can now also pass along songs to other Zunes, if you can find one. Try the Costco discount bin.

Launching first in beta, "Zune Social," a beta online community Web site, gives people a place to share their music tastes, knowledge and experiences with others. Anyone can create a free, customizable Zune Card that automatically updates to reflect the music they are listening to on their Zune or with Zune software on their computer. The Zune Card shows most recently played tracks and highlights that person’s all-time music favorites. Other members of Zune Social can play samples of the songs a user has been playing directly from a friend’s Zune Card or link to Zune Marketplace, where they can buy or download the music. In a nod to the inherently social nature of music, Zune Social will eventually enable its members to place the Zune Card on today’s most popular social networking sites, where it will continue to update automatically and show off what its owners are listening to.

In addition to creating a friends list, members of Zune Social can send song links and messages to each other, post comments on a friend’s profile page or on their favorite artist pages. They can discover new music by seeing what their friends are listening to, receiving recommendations from others in the community or by seeing what the top fans of artists they’re interested in are listening to. Each artist page will list the Zune Cards of the people who listen to that artist the most, making it easy for other Zune Social members to browse their recent playlists and discover new content they can sample, purchase or download with a Zune Pass.

MacDailyNews Take: Good Jobs, they're grasping at straws. Microsoft faces an infinite row to hoe.

The Zune Marketplace online store will offer a selection of more than 1 million digital rights management (DRM)-free MP3s, which can be played with Zune or any other digital media player. Wonder where they got that idea? Same place as all the rest they've ever had: 1 Infinite Loop. The Zune Marketplace online store offers more than 3 million songs or half that of Apple's over 6 million songs offered in the iTunes Store.

Zune Marketplace continues to offer Zune Pass, which lets consumers download as much music as they want for a flat monthly rate of $14.99. To inspire Zune Pass subscribers, Zune Marketplace genre editors offer a range of playlists and promote new albums each week. Consumers can also choose to purchase music and music videos individually using Microsoft Points, so that Microsoft could make extra money from leftovers - if they only had customers.

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Oct 03, 07 - 08:38 am Comment from: John Gee

That's what I'm talking about, MDN smile

Oct 03, 07 - 08:41 am Comment from: Adam W.

Thanks to your take MDN. I like your summary of the new Zunes and Zune software!

Oct 03, 07 - 08:41 am Comment from: DannoB

Not to defend MS, but there are some things Apple would be smart to look at; the wireless sync feature for example. And MS seems to have listened to some of the criticism by removing the time limit on sharing songs.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:43 am Comment from: macview

whoa! A little harsh for first thing in the morning. Somebody wake up a little cranky. But I forgive you. Carry on.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:47 am Comment from: John Gee

Microsoft changing the time limit on songs squirted from others to more than 3 days?

It took that long to travel to the next person with a Zune.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:48 am Comment from: DJ Jac

"Zune Marketplace continues to offer Zune Pass, which lets consumers download as much music as they want for a flat monthly rate of $14.99."

Is that music that the customer then OWNS for life, or still just renting?

Oct 03, 07 - 08:49 am Comment from: twilightmoon@mac.com

Hmm.. the pictures look better than the old clunky Zunes, so they are definitely improving... maybe by version 7.5 they'll finally catch up with this season's iPods.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:49 am Comment from: Marketing 101

Oh great!

MDN gives Microsoft Zune a platform on a Mac related site, then knocks it.

This has a marketing effect of:

1: Giving the Zune free advertising.

2: Creates a underdog effect, which people who might otherwise buy a iPod, to consider a Zune.

Remember Rule #1 in Marketing, #1 doesn't recongize or acknowledge #2

Apple's iPod is #1 and there are no other devices.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:51 am Comment from: kmac1036

Now why the hell didn't Apple do the wireless sync with the iphone / touch? Oh, that's right, STARBUCKS sharing!!! Looks like the Zune still has to be plugged into something to do wireless sync? I hate buring up a charge cycle on the battery just to sync a few songs or podcasts. At least the iphone / touch have the wi-fi store.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:52 am Comment from: AppleInvestor

The New york Times article says the brown Zune is gone. Must have flushed it down the toilet.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:53 am Comment from: Him again

Costco is planning an introductory offer:

Buy an iPod, get a 12 pack of Zunes free.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:53 am Comment from: B-side

most people i know have horrible taste in music. i don't care what they are listening to.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:55 am Comment from: iPodder

i think that M$ has mistake in the zune,Podcast defines the i-Pod,they don´t have even creativety on define a new word for it!

Oct 03, 07 - 08:56 am Comment from: Neo

Whats wrong with MS ? Even the Zune.net website stole the ideas of recently re wamped apple.com website features ?? Try some original ideas atleast you ll get some brownie points.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:57 am Comment from: vita rick

MDN,
Stop! You're killing me!

Oct 03, 07 - 08:58 am Comment from: B-Sabre

"squircle"?

Isn't that a Pokemon?

Man, who thinks up this stuff for Microsoft?

Oct 03, 07 - 08:58 am Comment from: rem

I sick of the squircles!

....for those of your that remember calling circles for long distance calls.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:58 am Comment from: Macaday

Good take MDN.

Microsoft is dying, slowly.

But Surely.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:59 am Comment from: KenC

Wow, a squircle. I think MS has lost the plot. The tipping point is here.

Oct 03, 07 - 08:59 am Comment from: M.X.N.T.4.1

There are some elements of these that I think are OK or might be cool if Apple implemented in some fashion but they're minor points and certainly not enough to make me want one over an iPod in any way. Wireless syncing may offer some convenience but it's not a huge selling feature. Most of the time when I want to sync I'm at my machine and I charge it by plugging into my computer and if I'm transferring any volume of data then it's faster when wired.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:00 am Comment from: Macromancer

"access to the new Zune Marketplace"

Sounds like a place where I can trade a couple chickens for a sack of potatoes.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:06 am Comment from: Danny

Have you seen the new Zunephone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRKIDdIaFyE

Oct 03, 07 - 09:11 am Comment from: PC Apologist

MDN is starting to sound more like a Yankee-hater than a Sox-booster. One is a subset of the other -- let's try to remember who we are.

That said, it looks like Zune *has* made some improvements to their product here, in direct response to public criticisms:

- use-based, not time-based exploding shared songs. better.
- re-sharable shared songs. better.
- shared songs to begin with is a cool idea.
- wireless sync is a cool idea, and one the iPod community has been requesting for a long time.
- Zune Social integrating with myspace, facebook, etc. will give them a lot of free publicity, and trigger a lot of "you use a Zune? do you like it?" conversations. That can only be good for them, and will start to peel back some of the Zune stigma that the iPod community is trying to hard to generate.

By the way, despite MDN's snarky intentional misreading, wireless sync does NOT require being plugged in -- it will sync AUTOMATICALLY when plugged in to a dock or speakers. Just an indicator that you're probably at home. Otherwise, you can manually trigger the wireless sync at any time.

It's a long way from catching up to the iPod, but it's making strides.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:12 am Comment from: Reclaimer

More Zune junk doomed for failure.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:14 am Comment from: AJ

A "squircle" is defined as follows:

[(x – a)/r1]^n + [(y-b)/r2]^n = r^n where n = 4. r1 and r2 are the major and semi-major axes of an ellipse. The "squircle" is a subset of supercircles. It takes on different shapes as n increases...as I understood it when I googled the damn thing.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:16 am Comment from: Diaper Doodee

Baby-poop green.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:20 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

This Allard character is SOOOO forward looking... check out that 90s shaved head... SOOOO today, SOOO cutting edge. Maybe he should switch to a goatee and backwards cap.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:22 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

WOW! One MILLION songs?

I had NO IDEA that Billy Joel and Neil Diamond had written so many!

Oct 03, 07 - 09:25 am Comment from: Follower

So you squirt with your squircle, then.

Eww.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:27 am Comment from: I love glossy

Spreadsheets to entertainment. That makes a lot of sense.

Most entertainers are ex-accountants after all.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:28 am Comment from: Switched

The best thing about a new M$ product release are the youtube videos taking the piss out of it.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:28 am Comment from: bloo

has anyone seen all the BS on Digg today about this new Zune crap?? All those idiots are praising M$ for updating the software of Zune 1.0 when the 2.0 comes out. BFD!!!

And can you believe they're trying to smack Apple down because M$ updated products like they're supposed too?

I guess they forget that Apple gives its products new features through software updates ALL THE TIME!!

Plus I think M$ has got to have a bunch of spies on Digg because all the people not slamming Apple are getting majorly Dugg down. Retarded.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:31 am Comment from: Jim

"Squircle". Brilliant! Thanks for the laugh. That was simply brilliant.

And the entire article was hilarious.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:40 am Comment from: Connor MacBook

In another interview, MS says it wants Zune to be No. 2. Well, they should have kept the brown!

Oct 03, 07 - 09:40 am Comment from: grouper

Things Apple should consider taking note of that MS has done very well:

Giving your fans access to (at least some) of the new features without forcing them to buy a new iPod every year. I mean, come on: I had to purchase a new iPod just to get GAPLESS PLAYBACK?! That's nothing more than a software update!

++ There's no reason - absolutely none - that the iPod Nano and Classic shouldn't have wifi in it. So, why doesn't it? I won't browse the web on it, but sending songs via wifi to another iPod (which is much easier to find than a Zune) would be awesome.

I won't be shilled forever, Mr Jobs. Everything MS does isn't bad. These things I listed are some of them. Take note, because as of now, if Zune was available on Mac OS, then I would be dumping my 5G iPod.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:42 am Comment from: Why?

People:

Why would Apple want to adopt any of Micros••t's 'ideas' when it has the #1 best selling music player, the most popular music software, the biggest music library and the highest online music sales in every market it's in???

Apple leads, Micros**t follows.

Also, here's a lovely little snippet from the 'Techdirt' site.
It's a Zune owner replying to comments about the crappy wi-fi and poor sales:

"I have a zune myself and there are very few issues with the player but mostly the software is a POS. I am sure there would be more player issues found if I could use all the wi-fi features. I agree....forget the advertising and start fixing the software and device. Once the device is like the word will spread on its own. I think in about 1 year and 2-4 gens later this will be a good device. Perhaps things like internet radio, or the ability to setup connections to wireless networks and use it as a media device on things like the xbox 360 or any pc. Lots of uses for the wi-fi are capped by the local file sharing only."

Yep buddy, you were right, the word did spread on its own.
The Zune is a turd.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:43 am Comment from: DJ

'Squircle' reminds me...

... of the similar-shaped 'Quartic' steering wheel, fobbed off on a dubious UK public back in the 1970s, by the (surprise!) soon-to-be-doomed BL Motor Corp.

Halo 3's not bad though, if you like that sort of thing.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:44 am Comment from: Crumb

From now on, I'm going to call my favourite member a 'squircle'.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:46 am Comment from: Shogun

You're pushing pretty hard MDN. Perhaps you secretly like it?

Oct 03, 07 - 09:46 am Comment from: Why? @ grouper

Who the *blank* FORCES you to buy a new ANYTHING every year????????????

Are you a mindless cretin or do you think for yourself???

Don't answer that.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:50 am Comment from: anthony007

Today must be a wet dream for Zune Tang.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:50 am Comment from: Peg in a Round Square

I own the patent to Roundish Squares, Triangulish Rectangles, Pyramidish Boxes, Empty Ashtrays, Balloon Air.

More to come.

Oct 03, 07 - 09:54 am Comment from: E of E

"We've seen smaller loads being shoveled off pig farms by back-hoe"

Obviously no-one at MDN has ever been around a pig farm, may of them use a tank bigger then a swimming pool to store the pig manure for spreading on fields... and I am not lying about the size, a round tank usually 100+ feet in diameter and around 15 to 20 feet high filled with liquefied pig manure... though that's still smaller then what MS can put out in a day...

Oct 03, 07 - 09:59 am Comment from: Details, details, details

MDN: Is this an article you wrote? Who are you quoting? Is it legal to quote someone verbatim without giving them credit?

Oct 03, 07 - 10:00 am Comment from: DogGone

The units look better than the old ones. The new iPods are still a generation ahead at least. The price is on par with similar capacity iPods so all in all I would say Zunes don't have a chance in hell of catching up with iPods.

Competition is good - I want Apple to stay ahead of the game; give me what I want at a decent price. We all win....well except for M$.

I also want M$ to continue to lose money on the business, to reduce their cash supply and lower their profit margins. The less money they make the faster they fall!

Oct 03, 07 - 10:01 am Comment from: G4Dualíe

Every song, including MP3s, squirted over to another zune is still wrapped in DRM.

Oct 03, 07 - 10:01 am Comment from: GizmoDan

Seems like this would be a good time to look up Bill Gate's original comment regarding DRM-free music when Steve Jobs issued his open letter about it.

Oct 03, 07 - 10:02 am Comment from: ApplePi

MDN, why don't you post a good picture of Gates, instead of resorting to personal attacks like that.

Oct 03, 07 - 10:10 am Comment from: M$ 'owns' Digg

bloo:

DIGG is virtually owned by Microsoft. They banned roughlydrafted.com articles because they were correct in their bashing of Microsoft.

No wonder Digg is going to have articles positive to Zune.

Oct 03, 07 - 10:15 am Comment from: john

Wireless sync as long as it is connected to an AC adapter and a dock? Uh, that's not wireless in my book. Wireless sync would be pressing a button while I'm in the backyard and sync. Pretty boring stuff that looks like won't excite anyone if you ask me. That was about as exciting as Vista's release.

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