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Mafiasoft: Microsoft to charge $50 per year for security service to protect Windows
Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 03:13 PM EDT

"A new security service from Microsoft Corp. will charge users $49.95 per year to better protect its Windows operating system from spyware, viruses and other Internet attacks," Allison Linn reports for The Associated Press. "Microsoft plans to release the product in early June."

"Called Windows OneCare Live, the subscription service will compete with security products made by traditional Microsoft partners, including Symantec Corp. and McAfee Inc. — although the software giant insists that its aim is not to run those companies out of business," Linn reports. "Ryan Hamlin, general manager of Microsoft's Technology Care and Safety Group, said Microsoft is less concerned with converting people already using other products. Instead, Hamlin says Microsoft's goal is to provide protection for users who don't have any added or up-to-date security — a group that Microsoft estimates comprises 70 percent of consumer users."

"Microsoft, whose Windows operating system and Internet Explorer browser are constant targets of worms, viruses and other disruptive attacks, announced more than a year ago that it would offer the paid service," Linn reports.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Wasn't Windows 95/98/Me/2000/XP supposed to be secure? Now, they're promising Windows Vista will be secure. Yeah, riiight. And, because they're incapable of making Window secure, they're going to charge their pigeons $50 per year? For "Microsoft Security," a misnomer if ever there was one? Why not make Windows itself secure? You know, like Apple's Mac OS X.

Anyone who buys Windows and then pays Mafiasoft $50 per year in protection money is a damn fool. If you're that stupid, you deserve to use Windows, and only Windows, for the rest of your life. Wonder what will happen if and when Microsoft's security subscription earnings dip and need to be, ahem, "reinvigorated?"

Here's the best personal computer advice you'll get all year, perhaps ever: If you only use Windows, dump it and get a Mac. Take the $50 you would have wasted for trying to secure the Windows mess, add in all of your annual wasted time and the costs of your other Windows anti-virus, anti-spyware and anti-malware software plus the processor cycles you waste running them, and apply it toward your .Mac subscription instead. Don't forget to ask your software vendors to "cross-grade" your software (pay the upgrade price - or in some cases just the shipping cost - to switch from the Windows version to the Mac version, instead of the full retail price - many vendors will accommodate you). You'll come out so far ahead, you'll think you've jumped forward a decade - which, of course, would be true.

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Feb 07, 06 - 04:31 pm Comment from: Davidlow

As a Mac user, I just gotta laugh out loud.

Feb 07, 06 - 04:31 pm Comment from: funny

hehawhehawhehawhehaw

Feb 07, 06 - 04:33 pm Comment from: random

This is unethical. Microsuck should be providing a product that is secure. Users should not need to "buy" security from them. If a vulnerability comes about, it means the software was not designed well in the first place and Microsuck should fix it for free.

Go Apple!

Feb 07, 06 - 04:40 pm Comment from: SirROM

Hey MDN!

I like the way you've been attributing the "heads up" to readers who point you toward these types of stories/links. I'm a little disappointed that I pointed this out to you yesterday (perhaps one of many people who did so), but the attribution appears to be missing here....

Feb 07, 06 - 04:46 pm Comment from: R

Would you dine at a restaurant if they said-- for an extra few bucks, we'll guarantee this food won't poison you (and if it does, we'll take care of you)?

Feb 07, 06 - 04:46 pm Comment from: bubba

hey, just think of it this way:

microsoft is a new car.

you have to buy extra options (security) like you do a sunroof on your new car.



except after paying the extra cash...you find the stupid sunroof leaks..

hehe.

Feb 07, 06 - 04:47 pm Comment from: maczealot

Hey! Uncle Vinnie got 15 years for protection money, and Bill Gates gets nuttin? What gives?

Tony says Billy Two-face will be charging $300 a year by 2007! Fuggetaboutit.

Feb 07, 06 - 04:51 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

What difference does it make, according to Dvorak Apple is going to dump OS X and move to Windows.

Feb 07, 06 - 04:52 pm Comment from: Scorp_56

As the John Morrell of the Good Morning Silicon Valley e-newsletter put it: "You can't help but admire the vertical effectiveness of selling both the problem and the solution."

Feb 07, 06 - 04:52 pm Comment from: Murder Junkie

I must agree that this does make Microsoft look somewhat ridiculous.....Asking THEIR OWN USERS to pay $50.00 per year for security?

Very bad - at least from a PR perspective.

Feb 07, 06 - 04:54 pm Comment from: Loru

You know in a few months after the release of OneCare Live, they will have to sell an antivirus for the OneCare Service...the avalanche continues...

Feb 07, 06 - 04:56 pm Comment from: MacBill

People who use Windows get what they deserve. It's like smokers who complain that they get lung cancer. Windows users are IDIOTS!

Feb 07, 06 - 04:56 pm Comment from: CODiNE

From my earlier Slashdot post on this subject:

Introducing SpoonCare!

MS RowBoat (TM) Will NOT come with a bailing bucket as previously speculated, however their new SpoonCare service will send users a new BailingSpoon (TM) update every month. Those who decide not to subscribe to SpoonCare will still be provided with a free monthly CorkPlug Update.

-----

Seriously... would you buy a boat that comes with a bailing bucket? grin How about one that strongly recommends having one at all times? Don't buy cardboard rowboats people, the only Vista they have is a view of the ocean below as you look through the holes in the bottom.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:00 pm Comment from: thxdude

Actually I know Adobe will crossgrade your software for the shipping cost only ($20) so you don't even have to pay for the upgrade path. I'm guessing more companies do this also - you just have to ask because they don't exactly make it widely known to users.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:02 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

You know, there's a word for this program: "Racketeering"

Feb 07, 06 - 05:08 pm Comment from: DudeMac

ROTFL grin

Feb 07, 06 - 05:08 pm Comment from: macaholic

un-bloody-believeable!!! And people look at ME funny when I say I use a Mac.

MW-inside: as in "Billy and his thugs should be 'inside'"

Feb 07, 06 - 05:09 pm Comment from: Neil2112

"That's a nice computer you've got there. Shame if something bad were to happen to it."

Feb 07, 06 - 05:10 pm Comment from: me

if only my MDN word were "Conflict of Interest" instead of WALL.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:15 pm Comment from: Porridge

If you only use Windows, dump it and get a Mac... You'll come out so far ahead, you'll think you've jumped forward a decade - which, of course, would be true.

MDN, bloody brilliant!

MDN MW: "sent," as in: I've "sent" this article to all my Windows suffering friends and acquaintances.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:17 pm Comment from: Peter

The part I laugh at is "Windows OneCare Live."

Remember back about five years ago, everything from Microsoft was "Dot Net." Office .NET, Visual Studio .NET, etc.

Now everything is "Live." Office Live, OneCare Live, Windows Live, etc.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:26 pm Comment from: macaholic

.NET or Live, it's all DOA

Feb 07, 06 - 05:26 pm Comment from: Hard Nard

This reminds me of the scene in "Tomorrow Never Dies" where Carver asks one of his men "How's our software coming?"

"Full of bugs and problems like you requested. People will be paying for upgrades for years."

Feb 07, 06 - 05:30 pm Comment from: Marko

WOW !!!!!! How pathetic, what a joke.
Glad I'm not now or have ever been a Windows user.
Is it called Windows because you want to throw your computer and or self out a Window when using ?

Feb 07, 06 - 05:30 pm Comment from: Windows USER

"People who use Windows get what they deserve. It's like smokers who complain that they get lung cancer. Windows users are IDIOTS!"

Its funny how you all think your so superior yet you buy up whatever Jobs releases to the market and praise it as a god send. Yet you call a windows user an idiot. We are the ones who turn on our MP3 players and have to be shown a sad or happy face to know whether its working.

Yesterday I had some idiot call in on a support line asking for help connecting his Mac to the internet. I actually laughed at him... You know why? I said to him its a Mac aren't you just supposed to be able to plug it in and it does everything for you? Apple sells its self as easier and better yet they require just as much setup they are only in a prettier box and on that note I tell you... Your all a bunch of conformists. Everyone of you owns the same machine with the same specs built by the same people at least windows users actually like a choice see thats what you get when you by a PC you get a choice not a bunch of Big Brother propaganda being shoved down your throat. ie.. You must buy and use this software only. .... Your itunes songs that you paid for can only be played on your iPod and not on any other music player.

Sounds to me like someone telling me how to use everything I buy the way they want me too.

Like Bill Gates telling me I can only print Word .doc's on a microsoft printer. Sounds stupid doesn't it

What a bunch of losers.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:30 pm Comment from: Voice in the wilderness

Does this $50/month even guarantee you anything? I'll be they have absolutely NO responsibility if they fail to protect you.

I tried talking to some friends this weekend about the Mac being more secure, easier, no viruses, etc. They fought me on every point despite all the evidence on my side. Freakin' idiots. I need new friends!

Feb 07, 06 - 05:31 pm Comment from: Sumer

This is good news for Apple. smile

Feb 07, 06 - 05:33 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

So in 10 years you will pay $500.

Isn't that what a Mac mini cost?

Feb 07, 06 - 05:36 pm Comment from: Looks Like a Duck

Hopefully I'm the first and last to mention this.

Windows User=troll

Don't even reply people. He's already got his tiny package in his hand, is refreshing the browser, and is anticpating the violent response he's going to get.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:38 pm Comment from: Sumer

$50 can get you 1 year domain registration plus 1 year hosting, on which you can start a company and grow into a 100 billion dollar company and compete against Microsoft probably take over the company and dominate the universe with your own products and services.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:47 pm Comment from: Nik Fletcher

Hard Nard:

I was thinking exactly the same! Go 007 - er I mean OSX!

Feb 07, 06 - 05:48 pm Comment from: aec

I can't even see the good spin they can attribute to this story.If they rolled out a stable product that would be one thing but due to their own OS inefficiencies I am supposed to pay them 50 bucks. Yeah right. Also just a silly thought why would I trust the company who can't deliver a stable OS to create a secure and effective security service?

I can just hear the marketing and sales folks discussing all of the security software and firms making money and that they should by rights be part of the action. Hey yeah people OneCare - you'll only have OneCare now. Honestly, I'm insulted. Talk about thinking we are all lemmings. Now heres a different thought how many people think they will conveniently "break" antivirus software or ship this new Onecare feature standard a la Internet Explorer.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Markus

Where's the class action lawsuit on this one??????????

Feb 07, 06 - 05:58 pm Comment from: lol

this is an intelligence test, plain and simple...

and so far the only person on this thread that has failed is 'windows user' who, as it happens, shares his wisdom from that lofty pedestal... the company help desk.

Feb 07, 06 - 05:59 pm Comment from: Wingsy

If some Windows user actually buys this (and I'm sure many will), I'd like to ask them one question, after they've handed over the money.

"Since Windows has all these virus holes in it already, what it is that makes you think that their VIRUS PROTECTION software isn't full of as many holes itself?"

Feb 07, 06 - 06:00 pm Comment from: solarflare

LOL!

I knew they were gonna do this!

Whatever happened to this so 'called' free security that they promoted when they launched this.

Pay M$ for the OS, spend 8hrs a week running patches and then pay M$ again to patch the patches that they made in the first place!

LLLLLOOOOLLL!!!!

GOD YOU WINDOWS USERS ARE THE BIGGEST MUGS IN THE WORLD!

Feb 07, 06 - 06:00 pm Comment from: Reality Check

And you being a "Windows user" posting on a Mac message board doesn't make you an even bigger loser yourself??? Find the Dell Daily News board or something, you're obviously lost here...

Feb 07, 06 - 06:05 pm Comment from: Wingsy

Windows User - please repost and separate independent ideas with a period please.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:10 pm Comment from: solarflare

Ive used Macs for 20 yrs mate.

So don't flame me - I use them at home and at work.

Gave up on windows many many years ago.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:13 pm Comment from: Tony The Tiger

$50 a year?

I think the question is this - if you choose NOT to pay Mafia$oft $50 per annum, are you MORE likely to become owned after 20 minutes of internet activity?

.Mac suddenly seems quite inexpensive, at least I can use it to create things like websites and iDisk.

I use my Mac to have fun, not worry about whether I am under attack.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:18 pm Comment from: Emil

I bet poeple will still think macs are more expensive, even with the added $50 for semi-security.
Windows users don't even deserve pitty if they stay with MS through this!

Feb 07, 06 - 06:22 pm Comment from: MCCFR

Windows User:

If I bought music from iTMS, I could just burn my tracks to a CD-RW and then re-rip it as MP3 if I wanted to use it on a lesser player.

But the problem I have with your point of attack is that, here in Europe, we are losing iPod competitors on a monthly basis: we never had the Dell DJ, I'm not sure the m:robe ever made it here, and iRiver are allegedly considering their future in Europe (presumably they can't cope with the white heat of a competitive marketplace).

And then there's the small question of Macintosh and iTunes compatibility: if you think that Apple prevents third-part hardware manufacturers from developing for either the Macintosh OS or the iTunes application platform, you're even more of an idiot than your writing style suggests.

At a meeting with someone from iRiver, I was told that they had consciously decided not to develop hardware support within iTunes because, and I quote, "we don't want to be closely identified with the iTunes Music Store".

So, they decided not to support the leading content management software because they didn't want to the consumer to be confused by a store which - even today - accounts for less than 10% of the global music market: pure genius.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:33 pm Comment from: KenC

What does this service say about Vista? And, wasn't Vista's raison-d'etre security?

Isn't there also a perverse incentive for MS to make a virus-ridden Vista to sell more security service? That's like a pharmaceutical company giving people HIV and then offering to sell them anti-HIV drugs!

Feb 07, 06 - 06:38 pm Comment from: Evil_MS_User

After actually _looking_ at this service I noticed several things aside from what has been widely reported:

- $50 per year for up to _3_ computers ($17/PC/yr). That's not _too_ bad...
- Managed _two-way_ firewall. That one's good.
- Boot-time tracing for performance tuning, automatic defrag, etc. Might be useful...
- Managed back-up to removable media or external HD. I wonder how well they'll do that...
- E-mail, phone and chat support included in the price!!! This is probably the clincher that will make it worthwhile to many people, especially the older generation.

Does Apple offer support via E-mail, phone or chat for an affordable price?

Feb 07, 06 - 06:43 pm Comment from: Dave H

theloniousMac

Well, if Dvorak's right, there's always Linux. It's starting to really come together on the desktop these days.

AND it runs on 64-bit dual-core AMD processors tied together with HyperTransport. Sort of strangely familiar in an iWish sort of way.

Mere speculation I know. When is Dvorak ever right?

Feb 07, 06 - 06:47 pm Comment from: Mac USER

Windows USER:

"Yesterday I had some idiot call in on a support line asking for help connecting his Mac to the internet. I actually laughed at him... You know why? I said to him its a Mac aren't you just supposed to be able to plug it in and it does everything for you?"

I honestly hope you were fired for that.

Tech support lines are to help, not to smear. If a support person laughed at me I would never, ever do business with their company again. How unprofessional of you.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:48 pm Comment from: iDon't

I'm selling my Apple stock and buying M$!!! I need money to finish my sex change operation.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:58 pm Comment from: BuriedCaesar

(Overheard recently at a Starbucks in Seattle...)

[Vinny] Hey, Bill - when are we gonna start collecting on that "security" program we gave you to feed to the masses for free last year? Ain't it about time we got something back for our trouble?

[Bill] Oh, right. Sorry 'bout that, Mr. Scarzarelli. We'll start charging everyone right away, sir. Right away. You'll get your first check by the end of the year.

[Vinny] Bill, my friend, I'm afraid that won't be good enough. We have to show the big boss a very favorable increase in revenue well before then. Plus, you need to cover the losses of your former partner's miserable performance the Super Bowl. How's about you start up by the end of February? Say, at $30 per subscription?

[Bill] Oh, my. Oh, my. We can't move this behemoth of engineers and technocrats and beurocracy that fast! Give us a few extra months, Mr. Scarzarelli and we'll increase your percentage while raising the price to $49.95. They'll never know the difference and that should cover Paul Allen's losses, too.

[Vinny] That still puts a significant crimp in our plans, Bill, but I can appreciate that perspective and will give you until June 1. But that's it, Bill. There will be repercussions, Bill, if this doesn't happen on time - and you and millions of others will not be very pleased about the results.

[Bill] Oh, I understand perfectly Mr. Scarzarelli. I'll make sure it happens. Wouldn't want anything to happen to that revenue stream. Melinda keeps nagging me about the next payment on the billions of dollars in pledges we've made to make the world a better place. Can't mess that up and ruin my reputation, now, can I, Mr. Scarzarelli?

[Vinny] Of course not, Bill. Be safe, Bill.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:59 pm Comment from: realist

I agree with the MDN take except for this line: Wonder what will happen if and when Microsoft's security subscription earnings dip and need to be, ahem, "reinvigorated?"

The implied accusation is completely wrong. Obviously MS has much more to gain financially from selling a secure OS than by selling software protection. I would expect even MDN to be able to comprehend that.

Feb 07, 06 - 06:59 pm Comment from: Grumpy

I'm an old geezer, We used to say " Thats like putting Willy Sutton in charge of security at the bank"

Feb 07, 06 - 07:01 pm Comment from: Evil_MS_User

After thinking about this OneCare thing I'm beginning to suspect this will hit the independent PC repair people hard. I can see now why M$ is greatly expanding its operations in India. All you need is an agent running on a user's PC and remote control into it and you can diagnose/fix 90% of any software-related problems. It's actually a home-user version of what corporations are already doing with their IT support operations.

Smart move...

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