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Aug 11, 08 - 01:04 pm Comment from: macaholic

Wow! just.....Wow!

Muhahahaha!

While on a trip in Europe, Bill Gates once claimed Vista is so secure and reliable that it could even run life support systems in hospitals.

Reliable for whom, Dr. Kevorkian?

What do you expect from a company that has to use an idea like Mohave to trick people into using their product. I have never seen anything so stunningly absurd in my life.

Our Bad Software, Your Olympics.


-Pi

Maybe they were using a pirated version of Windows.

Sadly enough but windows is the only OS where people are developping display manager system and multi-screen projection.

Too bad, mac can't do anything here. Those softwares developers just don't exist on the mac platform

Aug 11, 08 - 01:18 pm Comment from: MrScrith

Dug through the comments and found someone who had it on DVR and confirmed it's presence, for a very short time (less then a minute). As mentioned all of these things would have backups running at the same point to be switched over if anything happens.

Aug 11, 08 - 01:18 pm Comment from: Ferf Muckmeyer

Just another example of the shit Redmond defecates out to the masses of lemmings around the world. Maybe Microsoft should borrow from UPS' slogan - "What can Brown Do for You? - or how about some Blue?"

Hopefully IT is getting the message and will be demanding more enterprise-centric apps that run on OS X.

LOL @ "Olympic Fail" - perfect! MDN's final take also sums it up rather excellently.

Is there an Olympic chair-throwing competition? Ballmer might need to blow off some steam after this.

Aug 11, 08 - 01:21 pm Comment from: amyhre

The Chinese government went through the trouble of creating their own Linux distribution, Red Flag. Why the hell didn't they use that instead? It can run on Lenovo just as easily as Windows can.

Aug 11, 08 - 01:21 pm Comment from: ericdano

Pirated copy. What did you expect?

Aug 11, 08 - 01:25 pm Comment from: Ray

I bloody love it!!!!!!!

Just my $0.02

Good.

I see Windows fanboys on blog comments saying that the BSOD is a thing of the past and no longer happens. That shit happens all the time to me with PCs at work.

Now maybe this will shut them up.

Sooner or later the world will realise the wrong company got the gold..

Walk down nearly any street in Beijing, and you'll hear, "CD-ROM, DVD?" Ah, the hawking of pirated warez. Instead of going after people who make money pirating, lets go after the kids in their dorm rooms exchanging a few songs.

Oh, how I love the DMCA and the US legal system.

Good for the Olympics too, for picking such a crappy country for the `08 Summer Olympics anyway.

"Now maybe this will shut them up."

Yeah right ! ! ! Good one.

Aug 11, 08 - 01:33 pm Comment from: elgruga

'everybody knows that the good guys lost'

Windows is a prime example of all that is wrong in our world. Thoughtless drones in 1950's suits and bad haircuts making decisions when they should be cleaning the washrooms and sorting the mail.

OTOH, I am glad that the corrupt killers known as the 'Chinese govt'
looked like the thick incompetent fools that they are.

Its ALL political - its called the endless battle between right and wrong.

Which side are YOU on?

Aug 11, 08 - 01:38 pm Comment from: MacMan

We Mac Fanboys just don't get it (well, I get it, but most of us don't): The rest of the world think this is NORMAL!! "This is the way computers are supposed to work." Or at least "well, this is the way it's always been." The poor slobs simply don't know that there's anything better out there...

Well, maybe one day ("Oh, THIS is the way it's supposed to be? So easy? So reliable?")...

I hear the areas surrounding Redmond are being evacuated. Something about the Chinese test firing a missile that went off course and missed the Pacific.

Aug 11, 08 - 01:46 pm Comment from: Petey

LOL!

Yet another landmark fsckup by the biggest shit company ever!

I hope we dont use that crap in the UK Olympics in 2012.

2012 should be Apple all the way!

@therealspike

Apparently Windows can't do anything there, either.

LMAO

Windows super fail!

I must agree with MacMan. To the world of PC users, this is standard operating procedure. It's like an oil change, a normal maintenance task that you've lived with for so long. They would only know it's a bad thing if Apple told them with $500 million in anti-BSOD "Get a Mac" advertising.

The thing is, I use and love macs and osx and my mac crashes too...especially when i run the adobe creative suite...and dont get me started on how often my iphone 3g crashes or reboots itself...

ragging on windows about it crashing is such silly childs play/taunting

@Radius

Easy answer.

Don't get me wrong, I am mac guy.

Shows all over the world are touring with windows system under their skin (Madonna, Cher, Coldplay, Radiohead, Celine Dion, ...) and MacIntosh isn't even an option. It just don't exist. Maybe little fanboy like you are too busy masturbating in front of the Apple store instead of developing...

China is fast in adobting ... soon there will be Apple Mac OS X everywhere. (clones)

Con-Vinced:

"and my mac crashes too"

compared to...?

*********

:Spike?: (sic):

"Madonna, Cher, Coldplay, Radiohead, Celine Dion"?

Cite your sources

Aug 11, 08 - 02:39 pm Comment from: HMCIV

I pulled a comment from the article itself:

Very cool. It took a trained geek to notice this among all of the awesomeness that was the opening ceremony. That's dedication.


UH!!! Pay no attention to the PC behind the curtain

Aug 11, 08 - 02:41 pm Comment from: smackman

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Aug 11, 08 - 02:44 pm Comment from: BC Kelly

If any remember this

And you can do your own research to verify on Google/Wiki - I don't have the time or energy at this moment, sorry


About 5 years or so ago, just after Microsoft got out of the Monopoly Suit

They went traveling around the World - China and Russia in particular

With the fear that those Nations not yet computer-ized, or committed to any particular OS system might go Linux, or even Apple

So, in order to get an inside route to a Global Monopoly, Microsoft offered to GIVE, yes GIVE, the API's and *secret handshake codes* to China, Russia, et al

With hope that those Nations would go with Microsoft, who was trying to make it very easy for them to customize their National Networks - and show them how to do it - with features like being able to filter all email for words like 'freedom, democracy, etc'

(Believe Google got in on this too, but that's another story)

Well, we in the USA do have Laws about exporting sensitive high technology to other Nations - has something to do with our National Security, well, apparently at least as long as that doesn't get in the way of good ol' fashion Capitalism

Anyway - all this did make the News, but not a lot of noise, and the 'deals' went through without a hitch, review, or examination for those National Security concerns - must be nice to have friends in high places


Well, sounds like some chickens just came home to roost

Guess, at times, you do get what you pay for

And, as it could turn out - appears China's decision to go with Microsoft might be the best thing for OUR National Security

Instant Karma is a byatch, Grasshoppper



Thanks
BC Kelly
Tallahassee Fla

Aug 11, 08 - 03:46 pm Comment from: RealZuneTang

Ahem... I had to re-register since a so-called Zune Tang is also here posing as a True Microsoft and Zune lover (I actually think he is a real Squirt lover, one of Zune's great features). Anyway, I do appreciate his input. He is definitely not a troll.

Okay, to the topic at hand; Vista is great! Those of us using it love it. Not blindly following a "toy" operating system like MAC users.

Your Potential. Our Passion.

(I think I might just change those words; fake ZT uses them for me)

Aug 11, 08 - 03:53 pm Comment from: MacLovin

thats kinda sad, u'd think that with all the planning and millions of dollars they spent on the opening ceremonies, they'd have spent a few extra bucks on macs that don't crash all the time....

Just imagine if they had used OS X... you'd have a massive beachball up there instead.

Any honest poster here knows that Macs crash or hang about as much as current Windows PCs do... it's just that PCs show the user what went wrong... whereas Macs typically just log it and hang.

Well said my friend, well said, indeed.

@ApplePI:
No, definitely not. I have a Mac and a Windows, guess which one crashes more? Windows, a hell lot more.
There used to be 1 Mac and 4 Windows in my family. Now? 4 Macs and 1 Linux. Why? they get sick of Windows, it's for losers.

Aug 11, 08 - 07:47 pm Comment from: Tommyr

LOL! Microsuck never let's me down!

Aug 11, 08 - 08:21 pm Comment from: Beeblebrox

therealspike wrote:

"...windows is the only OS where people are developping display manager system and multi-screen projection.

Too bad, mac can't do anything here. Those softwares [sic] developers just don't exist on the mac platform"


This is big-time misinformation.

Two major apps for the Mac allow multi-screen production and in fact, do it better than anything on the PC:

ProPresenter
Isadora

Another, "Watchout", is an industry leading multi-screen production tool which relies on a Mac for editing and control of individual Windows PCs (each of which are simply "slaves" that drive their individual projectors.)

The great thing about using Watchout, Isadora, or ProPresenter is that the OS is rock solid and won't blue screen during a big show.

I know, I use Isadora for all my large venue presentations and would never use any Windows machine for such a critical task.

Plenty of comments on the original site that MDN linked to are calling this a fake.

Some commenters claim to have been physically present at the time, and saw no BSOD.

Other commenters are asserting that they reviewed television footage of the event, and again saw no BSOD.

Still other commenters are questioning why the BSOD text appears in English ... during a Chinese ceremony.

So go ahead and laugh, but be aware that there are a number of unexplained anomalies that raise serious questions about the authenticity of this photograph, and that this entire thing may have been faked.

You, Sir or Madam or Confused, are full of it.

I use Macs and PCs daily. When working I am running up to 4 computers simultaneously. Three of them are recording and plotting incoming data and they use Windows 2000, XP and the newest one, Vista. The fourth one is a Mac, running Tiger. I do my interpretations and conclusions on the Mac.

Windows PCs, if not rebooted daily, crash two or three times a week. Macs, if not rebooted daily, keep on truckin' for months. Apps crash, OS X does not.

Go peddle your BS somewhere else.

Aug 11, 08 - 09:07 pm Comment from: Beeblebrox

"Still other commenters are questioning why the BSOD text appears in English ... during a Chinese ceremony."


Be...cause.... maybe Windows was written by English speakers?

Just a long shot guess.

Aug 11, 08 - 10:38 pm Comment from: TheConfuzed1

Picture this...

My wife is about to give birth to our second child... She is ready to push, but the doctor isn't there yet, so they're telling her to hold it... Finally, the doctor appears! The nurse speaks up, "Hold on, we have to reboot!"

I look up and see the BSOD!

My wife had some very "unkind" words to say about that. lol

That's gold Jerry, GOLD.

What an absolutely downright idiotic thing to happen! Luckily I didn't see that on the footage (oh yeah, I forgot, they doctored the footage of the footprints so it would've been easy to erase that, presumably). I would most likely have taunted my Bindows-using family again... that should teach them! Windows is unreliable! Hah!

@beeblebox

Stop googling fanboy. Your large venue is like a 2 screens venue?

Watchout is not under os x anymore.... Update your (sic) sources.

Propresenter and Isadora is nothing close to the Pandoras box from Coolux and the Hippotizer from GreenHippo.

We are not talking about a 300$ piece of software. We are talking about a 20000$ unit that does a lot more than just using the standard closed mac hardware.

Those are full fledge DMX512, MIDI, edge blended, geometric correction, frame blending media server.

This is what I like the most on those closed eyes fanboy.
There is a world outside the Mac and that world is much much bigger.

@therealspike

You made your point.

What is necessary to be insulting?
Does that make you feel better or more important?
Do you think it's possible for someone to make a valid point without revealing self-esteem issues?

Easy fanboy comments puts me on fire.

Thank you PFC Obvious. You forgot the subject of the post but hey!
I can be your friend if you have no one to post to.

"You forgot the subject of the post but hey!"

Unnecessary and irrelevant.

"I can be your friend if you have no one to post to."

See above.

Funny or Sad? Sigh. Oh Microsoft. Windows dies with blue screen at Olympics [VOTE] - http://www.thriveorfail.com/60a75

Aug 12, 08 - 07:08 pm Comment from: Beeblebrox

Sorry, have to throw the BS flag on ol' Spike here.

First of all, having been in the multi-image business since 1975, I know a few things about large venue presentation systems. The reason I like the Mac is that you can do multi-screen shows without the need for a lot of expensive dedicated gear.

There is very little available for Windows that I would consider ready for prime time. Watchout is one (which, BTW is available for the Mac contrary to ol' Spike's assertion otherwise.) Isadora (I've used Izzy for up to 6 screens although mostly with 3) is available for Windows but no one serious about live theater uses it on a PC since it is also available for the much more stable Mac platform.

The Renewed Vision family of presentation software is unparalleled in the large venue field. Quite simply, there is precisely ZERO competition for this software from the Windows world. ProVidoPlayer can present to an UNLIMITED number of projectors. This software is available only for the Mac and has no rival.

The "$20K" system that Spike mentioned is NOT a Windows system unless it is Watchout (maybe Spike could tell us what he is actually talking about so we can discuss it). All the big money systems I've seen are dedicated hardware with a PC controller - not the same thing as a Windows based presentation system.

A $20,000 system is going to be dedicated non-PC hardware and actually $20K is cheap for a dedicated system.

For example, I am installing a Vista Spyder system (the 359) at a church right now that is stunning. Yes, it is very expensive but it does a fabulous job of multi-screen projection. However, like Analog Way and FSR gear, it is a dedicated system and not something that you can consider to be "based on a PC".

My point is that the system running at the Olympics is NOT running on a PC. A PC may be controlling outboard dedicated hardware, or it may be providing content for some of the screens (note that, assuming the pictures are accurate representations of what really happened at the opening ceremony, only one section of the projected image showed the BSOD. Obviously, this means that the system as a whole was not running on that PC or the entire thing would have gone down.)

On the other hand, ProVideoPlayer, combined with ProPresenter, COULD have handled the entire panoramic video for the opening ceremony since it can handle unlimited projection areas. It just depends on how many Mac Minis in which you want to invest (1 per projector).

I don't claim to be up on all the PC-centric multi-screen solutions outside of Watchout (since I wouldn't be caught dead using a toy OS for live performance, but maybe Spike can enlighten us on just what Windows solution there is out there that can address unlimited projectors without the aid of dedicated hardware. I'm seriously interested.