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Microsoft’s ‘free’ protection scheme debuts in attempt to whack Windows malware
Friday, January 07, 2005 - 09:55 AM EST

"How would you feel if you were selling flu shots that the clinic around the corner was giving away? In a move that is sure to ruffle the feathers on a pair of software companies, Microsoft is rolling out free programs to battle spyware and pesky computer viruses," Rick Aristotle Munarriz writes for The Motley Fool.

"While the company claims that the antivirus software will simply enhance existing premium products by McAfee and Symantec in order to provide a more pristine computing experience, let's not be naive. That's how the dance starts," Munarriz writes. "Sure, for every Netscape browser or rival operating system that Microsoft has all but squashed you have cases like RealNetworks, where Mr. Softy has conceded to co-exist. Microsoft isn't always a tyrant. Its Xbox video game console still trails the Sony PlayStation format by a wide margin," Munarriz writes.

MacDailyNews Take: Failure doesn't disqualify Microsoft from tyrant status. Also there are 25 million Mac users out here who feel anything but "squashed" by Microsoft.

"Ultimately the irony would run thick if Microsoft does manage to make a splash in the antivirus space. Not only is its operating system more susceptible to virtual misdeeds than Apple's, but now it finds ways to profit from those deficiencies," Munarriz writes. "Ouch. That inoculation needle hurts!"

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: We said it before and mean it even more today: There's a tried and true name for people that will pay Microsoft for Windows and then pay them extra for some promise of protection: "suckers." Hate to break it to you this way, but if you're that stupid, you deserve to use Windows, and only Windows, for the rest of your life.

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Microsoft may charge extra for Windows spyware protection software - December 16, 2004

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Jan 07, 05 - 10:29 am Comment from: Jack A

This is just so amazing to me. It really brings home the meaning of the phrase "Truth is stranger than fiction"

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Jan 07, 05 - 10:32 am Comment from: JadisOne

Microsoft is the perfect example of legal organized crime.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:33 am Comment from: MilwaukeeMacOPhile

Whoa there MacDailyNews. I agree that MS are a shameless corporate money-making behemoth (that happens to make some pretty mediocre software). But don't forget you attract more flies with sugar than with vinegar.

A lot of people out there really don't understand that "OS X" is a different thing than Windows. They just think there are different kinds of computers (Dell, HP, Apple, Micron, etc.). OS is a foreign concept to them.

All the Windows users out there need more help from great resources like MacDailyNews helping them understand that Apple isn't just a different brand of computer, it's a better brand of computing experience. One that is free of spyware, and adware, and viruses, and crashes, and BSODs, etc.

So please keep preaching the "Apple = No Spyware/Virus/BS" gospel. And make sure everyone knows they can use Office and Internet Explorer on their Apple computer AND not have to worry about their system being hijacked by Porn, Pop-ups, and weird startup pages. They often want to know that their printer and digital camera work too.

After all, that's really all most people care about. The computer is a just a thing to use. And an Apple is just another computer unless you really differentiate it from the crowd. And please - no it's not an Apple it's a Mac nonsense. I know this, you know this. 99% of the world will never know this or care. To them it's an Apple.

So again, Apple = Office + Internet Explorer + Printer + Camera and NO VIRUS, NO SPYWARE crap. This is what people need to know.

At least that's my two cents.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:34 am Comment from: Easy_Now

Even if MS does suck, the xbox is an awesome gaming platform and the next version is looking quite promising. Sony is certainly not a better citizen than MS.

In other news check out this article: http://www.gamerah.com/noticias.php?bias=180#180

Very interesting, Nintendo founder tells Steve Ballmer what he can put in his mouth...(face to face no less)

Jan 07, 05 - 10:34 am Comment from: AnotherMacDouchBag

I think MDN is slipping into inmaturity.

"There's a tried and true name for people that will pay Microsoft for Windows and then pay them extra for some promise of protection: "suckers." Hate to break it to you this way, but if you're that stupid, you deserve to use Windows, and only Windows, for the rest of your life."

Isnt Freedom of speach great...?


FSCK YOU!! MDN. You know what you can EAT.

(Brought to you by the lovely word "twenty")

Jan 07, 05 - 10:37 am Comment from: Rob

Your take pretty much says it all...

Jan 07, 05 - 10:38 am Comment from: Dave H

This is MS admitting that Windows security is broken beyond repair.

Of course, that's not the spin their PRs put on it.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:39 am Comment from: Rasmus

So let me get this traight.
MS makes an operating system full of holes spy/adware can sneak through and then they want credit for creating a seperate program that is supposed to stop this.
An application that windows users for years had to pay third party providers for.
What I think MS should do is refund money to everyone that has paid for spyware removers / protectors instead.
And you know what is going to happen. In 6 months or a year MS will start charging for this software because 'it is a very sofisticated piece of software'.

Gotta love MS. THey know how to make a billion or 50.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:40 am Comment from: RC

Yeah freedom of SPEECH (not speach) is great. How's this for freedom of speech...F*ck you Douche Bag! Go hang out on the Dell geek boards and get the hell out of here.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:46 am Comment from: Jeff

Now I know that Microsoft REALLY is a innovative company. Their innovation is the ability to profit off their incompetency. Yes, that is innovation.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:46 am Comment from: edgeknight

MDN is right. Would you buy a car with recurring transmission problems? Only if you were an idiot.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:52 am Comment from: Jump

Let me guess AnotherMacDouchBag, you just bought a Windows system?

Jan 07, 05 - 10:52 am Comment from: Beryllium

AnotherMacDouchBag:

And with the potty mouth you displayed it is safe to safe to say that you never left immaturity (notice that it's spelled with two m's).

I agree, however, that name calling is unwarranted and telling Windows users that they are suckers will drive them away, not win them over.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:55 am Comment from: john

I have to agree with RC. That kind of talk isn't exactly mature especially when MDN has the true facts. I really can't see how an extra antivirus program is going to help there situation. What I see happening is confllicts between Microsofts helper program and the other premium antivirus software. It looks like a potion for blue screens if you ask me.
System slow downs could also happen as the two antivirus programs scan.
Oh and there's no way I would trust a PC protected only with Microsofts version of antivirus software. There record on security is lacking severely.

Jan 07, 05 - 10:56 am Comment from: BSOD

THIS JUST IN!!!

Critical vulnerabilities have been uncovered in Microsoft's new anti-virus and anti-spyware software, making PCs running the Windows operating system more vulnerable to malicious attack than ever before.

It goes on to say something about Remote Procedure Calls....

Jan 07, 05 - 10:58 am Comment from: john

BSOD where did you read that?

Jan 07, 05 - 11:02 am Comment from: Blair

MilwaukeeMacOPhile is one hundred percent correct... I would guess 80% or more do not have any idea what an OS is. Even people Who I have converted to the Mac platform occasionally call me asking about Spyware, Virus problems that friends tell them about. When they tell
them they have a Mac and were told these things don’t affect them. PC folks tell them they are wrong. It affects ALL computers.

I then must reassure them again.

Jan 07, 05 - 11:16 am Comment from: Aryugaetu

What a total scam!! Auto manufactures are forced to recall and fix defective products for free, but Microsoft gets to CHARGE their customers to fix their own, built-in, design flaws!!!

According to CNN, Microsoft may start charging people for this "security" starting in July...

"Microsoft disclosed last month that it planned to offer software to remove spyware programs that are secretly running on computers. But in a shift from past practice, Microsoft said it may charge consumers for future versions of the new protective technology, which Microsoft acquired by buying a small New York software firm.

Kaplan said the free version of Microsoft's new spyware-removal software will expire July 31 and pricing for future versions is still undecided. Rival anti-spyware tools, such as Lavasoft Inc.'s popular Ad-Aware product, offer similar functions to Microsoft's, and many are free."

[ http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/01/06/microsoft.antivrus.ap/index.html ]

This, now, makes it more apparent that Microsoft is much more worried about their customer's mounting frustrations and potential switch to Apple, with their desire in supporting 3rd-party fix-it companies having a much lower priority.

It also seems that Microsoft does not have a way to actually FIX these OS flaws, and now seems desperate to avoid a total rewrite of their OS. Such a move could make ALL of the Windows-based software obsolete.

Was that a flushing sound I heard?
Now, is a good time to buy more Apple stock.
Apple is UP 2.3% so far today!!
At http://quotes.nasdaq.com/, compare AAPL and MSFT, then look at the comparison charts.

Jan 07, 05 - 11:25 am Comment from: BSOD

john: it's a joke.

Jan 07, 05 - 11:27 am Comment from: Aryugaetu

"For a population that struggles to programme a video recorder, expecting people to regularly visit Microsoft's web site to download all the latest service packs and security updates is living in dreamland."

From http://www.pcdownloadworld.com/news/free-virus-software/1682.htm ...

-- [start quote] --

PRODUCT RECALL NOTICE: Anybody buying a personal computer in the last three years should immediately return their purchase to the point of sale for repair. A serious flaw means your system is unsafe and the security of your personal information is at risk.

That is an advert you will never see in a national newspaper. If a kettle develops a problem that makes it unsafe, the manufacturer will recall the product and pull out all the stops to resolve the fault. If a car has a design fault, Ford aren't going to say - 'go to your nearest dealer, pick up a new part, and fit it yourself.' But for home PC users, that's just what they are expected to do.

[continued]

For a population that struggles to programme a video recorder, expecting people to regularly visit Microsoft's web site to download all the latest service packs and security updates is living in dreamland. If Microsoft - and every other software company that sells to home users - want to avoid alienating the non-PC literate majority and damaging trust in computers and the internet, they need to find a much better way of dealing with the problem of bug fixes. It's just not good enough to simply say: we've done all we can, if you don't download the fix, it's your problem. As the growth of viruses and spam continues, this approach will do serious damage to the IT industry as a whole.

-- [end quote] --

Jan 07, 05 - 11:37 am Comment from: The deal

Easy_Now, do you know what day Mexican "April Fools" is?

http://www.vallartaonline.com/events/DayoftheInnocents/

Jan 07, 05 - 11:39 am Comment from: iVeritas

Microsoft Anti-Virus is an oxymoron. This should be welcome news the the malware "industry."

Jan 07, 05 - 12:40 pm Comment from: johnE

How long before MS sells 'anti-virus' software (or updates) to fix the holes in their anti-virus software.

I'm not kidding.

Jan 07, 05 - 01:37 pm Comment from: Webmaster's Apprentice

Look at it this way....

Television used to be free. (just buy the tube & plug in.)
Then came commercials (a painless free disturbance)
Then came cable ($8/month)
Then came cable box rental ($5/month)
Now cable costs $60/month
Then came satellite dishes.. up to $129/month
Then came TiVo (another $6.99/month)

So now we have people spending up to $100+ per month on television to watch a commercial which cost somebody else a million bucks to send to you? (you pay money to be annoyed by commercials)

This sounds highly insane to me, but there are billions of citizens who do this worldwide.

You think people are going to pay a Criminal to protect them from other criminals? YOU BETCHA!!!

Jan 07, 05 - 02:37 pm Comment from: notatotalsucker

Yea what webmaster apprentice said.

First you had cable tv (with heaps of ads too - what gives?)

Now we have rented music... we pay and pay some more for things which previously had been free (on the radio for example.) Or you can pay for digital satellite broadcasts.

How much longer before say newspaper websites en masse start charging for reading current articles and not just archived ones? No way then to read over someone's shoulder on the train or find a left over paper on a seat to read eh? (if you want to be scummy and not buy it). Don't bet on them charging much less for the digital version compared to the printed version either.

Nah, this captialist world sucks.

Oh, and I left out water (yea, plain old water) in a bottle being sold for a couple of bucks. What a scam.

Jan 07, 05 - 03:17 pm Comment from: GldFshInMN

I totally agree with MilwaukeeMacOPhile, we (including MDN) need to continue to emphasize educating people about this amazing computer product we love in ways that are productive. Yes, I also let my friends/coworkers/family call my system an "Apple" and I am always pleased to show them how insanely great it is, and I ALWAYS show them that I have M$ Office, an HP printer, and a Kodak camera that work with it flawlessly. I also show them how easy it is to connect wirelessly in coffee shops and hotels, and how fun it is to use iPhoto (the one program that brings the best comments from them).

As far as the iPod/iTMS goes, I find that I am CONSTANTLY correcting people that think I can only use my iPod for music that I buy on the iTMS. "What about all my CD's?" they ask. I show them the thousands of tracks I have that are from my CD collection, and then they are REALLY interested.

We all need to remember that our average friends and family members (most of whom aren't geeks like me) really just want to surf, email, message, listen, and share. When I tell them they can do all those things securely without constant freeze-ups, slow-downs, and unwelcome interruption, they can scarcely believe it. Just like other concessions we make in our lives, they have come to believe that computing means headaches. Let's not be snobs, let's open our arms and welcome our loved ones into a community that has some real interest in sharing and helping each other out. MDN is a little too bitter for my tastes lately. Keep it positive, PLEASE (Even though I myself would be inclined to give Bill G. a swift kick in the ding-ding for the years of life I've wasted fixing my old PC and the clogged systems of my friends...).

Thanks.

P.S. I was "switched" by a patient friend of mine a couple of years ago. This year my very cautious partner finally got sick of the headaches with his heap-o-crap while watching me use my iBook without care. He now has a new iPod and shiny iBook G4. One down, a few hundred to go. grin Cheers, all!

Jan 07, 05 - 03:59 pm Comment from: Guido

I'm telling youse, somebody's gonna get their head broke for steppin into our racket. My don owns protection in this burg. Youse better tell Billy to step off before somebody gets hurt.

Jan 07, 05 - 04:49 pm Comment from: MacBuddy

[Microsoft is the perfect example of legal organized crime.]

I'll say it again...

Microsoft Money Laundering v2005.

Jan 07, 05 - 05:07 pm Comment from: MadMac

Microsoft anti virus? All these years i've thought that Microsoft was a virus. raspberry

Jan 07, 05 - 05:36 pm Comment from: feeze

Lol MadMac, I can imagine the anti virus package, it contains a piece of paper say, "Goto to DOS and enter 'format C:'" All fixed.

Jan 07, 05 - 07:25 pm Comment from: Lachlan

In response to MilwaukeeMacOPhile:

I'd rather not encourage ANYONE to use Internet Explorer on the Mac ... To be recommending a browser that has not been updated for the Mac and is now not supported by M$, when far superior alternatives exist is just irresponsible. I suggest you explain that Safari/(browser of choice) is a browser similar to IE, but much better.

(and re. IE being required to access some sites - EMAIL the site admins requesting STANDARDS COMPLIANT CODE - if no one contacts these people they will continue to be lazy and quote site traffic figures showing IE usage as the basis for their coding decisions ...)

Lately I have found myself suggesting alternative browsers to Windows using friends ... IE is just NOT secure and should not be recommended to or by anyone for anything.

my 2 cents.

Jan 07, 05 - 07:39 pm Comment from: Kassandra

Watch this video, at the very end, the lady telling about spyware protection says "good luck". Funny how you need "luck" to keep your Windows-based pc running smoothly and without malware infestation.

Link: http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/video1.mspx

Jan 07, 05 - 08:45 pm Comment from: mike

only a complete imbecile would pay for MS Security Software...

Talk about creating your own market

Jan 08, 05 - 01:52 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

MadMac
Microsoft anti virus?

It erases Windows and installs your choice of Linux flavors. Included are a selection of helpful websites to help get you started learning to use your new OS. A select limited "Platinum Edition" includes a hand written note from BIll Gates apologizing for Windows.

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