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Jan 30, 08 - 12:12 pm Comment from: Ampar

" . . . it remains unsuitable for use to any rational person."

Welcome to the monkey's house.

Jan 30, 08 - 12:25 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

Never really understood how bad it is until now. Anti-user? Indeed.

Jan 30, 08 - 12:30 pm Comment from: DavidO

From the original article:

"My girlfriend sits beside me browsing on a Mac."

At least somebody has some brains in that relationship.

Until I read this I thought I was a rabid Windows hater!

Microsoft(R)

Our connections. Your conniptions.

Jan 30, 08 - 12:36 pm Comment from: Rich Apple person

There is a more serious issue here: 5 years and billions of dollars and Vista was the result? Microsoft has become corporate America and in doing so has lost the passion that once made it great. Most mac users hate MS but to their credit they did bring the PC to the masses and still have a 90% market share. Vista was a MAJOR disappointment and shows what happens when you try to make too much money for something that has no value to your base. Most companies are sticking with XP and will continue to do so and now MS is delaying the next version of Windows till 2011?? One has to wonder if Apple can maintain their innovation when Mr Jobs retires

Jan 30, 08 - 12:38 pm Comment from: Micro Me

I've never used Vista, but everything I've heard from PC users about it is negative.

Last week, a visitor gave us an unexpurgated account of his Vista experience, ending with his reversion to XP. It made my problems with Leopard on my workplace Mac pale into insignificance.

Jan 30, 08 - 12:39 pm Comment from: Ampar

"If you can't make it good, at least make it look good.”

"Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a spider monkey."

"We've got to put a lot of money into changing behavior."

- Bill Gates

Jan 30, 08 - 12:47 pm Comment from: mike_in_helsinki

The way you handle a turd is simple. Flush the smelly, vile business down the commode, hope that the brown, glancing blows to the porcelain sides do not show the skid marks too badly.

Apply chloride vigorously, and repeat.

I think MacDaily News needs to iCal this comment on the article. 10% is coming real fast there Andrew... can we get your email too so we can all call you out! Expensive and underpowered? Right... check a comparable Dell to a MacPro with the same specs.

"For Jobs Mob to take any Market Share they need to release a version of Mac OS that doesn't require expensive underpowered Apple supplied hardware, or hacking to make it work on a custom build box. Untill you can buy a value(read cheap) HP/DELL for around £300-400 (with screen) with OS X on it Apple will never ever take more than 10% of the market"
posted by : andrew, 30 January 2008

Jan 30, 08 - 12:54 pm Comment from: 84 Mac Guy

How refreshing to read an article and all the comments that primarily pit the Vista nuts against the Linux crowd. Us Mac fanboys tend to think of everything in terms of Apple, but the Linux fans have the same arguments with the MS fanboys.

Interestingly Linux fans and Apple folks are more than just allies against a common enemy, they are brothers with the same mother--Unix. In contrast, Vista is a bastard child.

What's amazing is that he "was forced to learn Linux" due to Vista, but his girlfriend uses a Mac. I wonder why he didn't try her Mac, instead of being forced to learn Linux? Maybe because he didn't want to replace hardware?

Jan 30, 08 - 01:04 pm Comment from: ken1w

> MS was forcing me to use Linux against my will

Linux is getting much better as a client OS, but it's NOT nearly as refined as Mac OS X. I tried Ubuntu, Fedora, and SUSE on my Mac through VMware Fusion. They work fine for common tasks like web-browsing, but I definitely felt a relaxing sense of comfort and well-being when I was back in the Mac environment. And while I would use Linux instead of Windows, there is no way I would use Linux instead of Mac OS X. As it stands now, PC makers like Dell are in for a disappointment if they believe Linux is a viable alternative to Windows for most of their customers.

With no other alternative to Windows Vista, other than Windows XP, Apple's competitors are in for a rough three to four years. Apple may actually achieve 20% U.S. market share for Macs during that time, since Mac OS X is the only true long-term alternative to Windows Vista for most customers.

Jan 30, 08 - 01:16 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"Inviolate promises of user control over patching was shown to be far less important than MS needs to control your box"

NOBODY controls my box.

Just the thing for the police state we are living in. The BushWorld poster child computer where you have 'no expectation of privacy'.

"Apple may actually achieve 20% U.S. market share for Macs during that time, since Mac OS X is the only true long-term alternative to Windows Vista for most customers."

Exactly.

Jan 30, 08 - 01:31 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Four billion wordwide
population - all living - have a
Computer God Containment Policy
Brain Bank Brain, a real brain, in the
Brain Bank Cities on the far side of the
moon we never see. Primarily based
on your lifelong Frankenstein Radio
Controls, especially your Eyesight TV
sight-and-sound recorded by your brain,
your moon-brain of the Computer God
activates your Frankenstein threshold
Brainwash Radio - lifelong inculcating
conformist propaganda. Even frightening
you and mixing you up and the usual
"Don't worry about it" for your setbacks,
mistakes - even when you receive
deadly injuries!

THIS is the Worldwide Computer God Secret Containment Policy!

@ eyerhyme
I did as you suggested. The result was MacPro: $2799 vs Dell Precision Workstation: $4665.

Jan 30, 08 - 01:37 pm Comment from: ericdano

Ooooo, so THAT is why Zune Tang uses it. He is not rational.

Jan 30, 08 - 01:37 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Gangster Computer God Worldwide
Secret Containment Policy made possible
solely by Worldwide Computer God Frankenstein
Controls. Especially lifelong constant-threshold
Brainwash Radio. Quiet and motionless, I can
slightly hear it. Repeatedly this has saved my life
on the streets!

I have a Vista box at work, and to my surprise I actually like it. Of course, it's running on a fate Core2 Duo, so performance isn't an issue. It really isn't that different from XP, just shinier.

I just do not know why people think that the best machine in the world is a POC (piece of crap) box that is underpowered, under memory, and contains the cheapest parts of hardware one can find in the world, and they want to load Apple OS on it.

To me, its like buying a Gucci interior and putting it on a go-cart and wondering why the ride really sucks while driving in the rain, in heavy traffic.

JMHO

en

Jan 30, 08 - 01:59 pm Comment from: doc

@bizlaw

Charlie Demerjian evaluates lots of different hardware and software, much of which will not work on a mac but will have compatibility with a peecee.

BTW:
Is that deal on I offered you? You said aapl would be over $200us by the end of this week and I offered to sell you some aapl at $195us on 4feb08.

@ChrissyOne
"NOBODY controls my box."

I hope they do sometimes... or you're missing out big-time

Jan 30, 08 - 02:43 pm Comment from: Ampar

Twenty Benson: Yeah, I was thinking that she should at least give Energizer a shot at it.

just as I was thinking about controlling and C1's box, I'm beaten to the punch.

NOBODY controls my box.

Thumb in one hole and two fingers in the other. The other hand on your throat.

You'll love me for it. I'd swear.

Jan 30, 08 - 03:08 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Ampar

Puny batteries? I think not.

I've been using Windows at work since its inception, and the more I use it, the more I think, "The more I use Windows, the more I love my Mac." I have a wife I love, two cats I adore, and a Mac. Sometimes when I return from work, I'm not sure which to kiss first.

Jan 30, 08 - 03:24 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

It's okay to love your pets, as long as you don't... *love* your pets.

@ ChrissyOne
Looks more like assault and battery.

If that's yer box though... it's got a very nice button.

Jan 30, 08 - 03:36 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Oops! Wrong link...

Jan 30, 08 - 03:39 pm Comment from: British Mac Head

Yep, No Zune Tang on here Either. Point proven!!!

Zune Tang, who are you really?

If you were a real Vista nerd you would be on here defending your crappy OS.

Arf arf!!!

@ChrissyOne

Don't worry, it's a platonic adoration. That being said, I was at work about a year ago while my wife was away visiting family. I called her and she asked how things were on the home front. I said something like, "Things are going well. Marco was a little darling last night; he came to bed about midnight and was very affectionate. He finally fell asleep nestled right against me." After I hung up, one of the women I worked with said, "Ummmmm, Marco IS your cat, right??? I assured her he was.

Jan 30, 08 - 03:53 pm Comment from: Ampar

"love your pets"
In truth, great movie line.

Re: Honda generator. Those are used now in dentists' offices to power the equipment. It's a new green solution. Patients in pain tend to be more flatulent and therefore produce methane. And everyone knows that abscess makes the fart go Honda.


Re: And that last one? Daaaaaaaaam.

Jan 30, 08 - 03:55 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Mark

You shoulda ran with it. "Uh, no, Marco... he's just a friend. He, uh, just likes to snuggle..." {sweats}

Jan 30, 08 - 04:00 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"And everyone knows that abscess makes the fart go Honda."

That was a long long way for just a little bit... But truly, my hat is off, my friend.

@ChrissyOne

Yeah, I could have said, "He's my friend and he's big, and black, and beautiful, and veeery strong." All of which would have been true.

I love that picture of Ballmy and Gates, it makes you just wanna slap there heads

I see MDN is posting as ChrissyONe again... slow news day?

Jan 30, 08 - 05:50 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ NumberTwo

I laughed so hard I went number one!

He's absolutely correct that a Microsoft product is an insult. But the number one reason why some Windows users will resist switching to Mac no matter what pain Windows inflicts on them is... games [see following pages].

For non-gamers or those satisfied by an occasional title like Call of Duty 2, there is no excuse [okay, there is at least three things you can do in Windows that have no equivalent Mac shareware apps...[keep hoping]].

Has it been a year already. I still havn't seen Vista up close so I can't realy comment. If Windows is 95% of the market or whatever then you'd think someone I know has it installed, but no.

boring .. boring....
Please american girls come and get me.

and some fat Rich can give a job please.

I know ms is shit.
so that qualifies me for a job better than a MS employee.
OK

When the chrome plating wears off a turd, aren't you left with shit?

Dang, where's Zune Tang? I clicked and read this article to get his twisted take!!!