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Microsoft’s Windows Vista will attempt to incorporate many features from Apple’s Mac OS X Tiger
Monday, August 01, 2005 - 02:41 PM EDT

"When Windows Vista ships in late 2006, Windows will mimic many features of Apple's Tiger and go beyond it. But while Microsoft introduces the world to Vista, Apple is keeping mum about its next version of Mac OS X, which Steve Jobs has said will ship at about the same time as Vista. It is the Intel-ready Leopard, not Tiger, that will be Apple's answer to Windows Vista," John Rizzo writes for eWeek.

"With the first Vista beta, Microsoft seems to have taken many cues from Mac OS X with the user interface and features, right down to some of the terminology. Even some of Vista's icons are amazingly similar to those in Tiger. For instance, there's the interface names, Apple's Aqua and Microsoft's Aero," Rizzo writes. "In Vista, 'My Documents' and 'My Computer' are now 'Computer' and 'Documents,' as they are in Mac OS X. The search icon in the Vista beta is almost identical to Tiger's Spotlight icon, except that the magnifying glass turns the other way. Vista buttons and other interface details have a shiny bulbous look similar to those in Mac OS X."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Rizzo's article contains mistakes, for example, "The Vista icons are scalable to different sizes, but can scale up to 128 by 128 pixels, compared to 64 by 64 in Tiger." Tiger's icons can scale up to 128 x 128 pixels (since Mac OS X beta, no less, which debuted in September 2000). Rizzo's contention that Vista will be more secure than Mac OS X is somewhat laughable at this early "Vaporous Vista" juncture. Sorry, but Microsoft has a long way to go on the security front before anyone will swallow that line. Rizzo seems pretty ecstatic that Vista icons will have thumbnails of the actual document, but fails to mention that in Mac OS X's Column view, clicking on a document will automatically show its thumbnail view just as Vista is supposed to do in late 2006 (or use Get Info on a document). We're sure you'll be able to find more errors, but it's an interesting article that highlights how hope springs eternal in the Windows camp that someday Windows will be able to adequately replicate what Apple Mac had years ago. The part about Mac OS X Leopard vs. Windows Vista is also somewhat interesting.

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Aug 01, 05 - 04:04 pm Comment from: webbyswim

can't get to the article. must be running on IIS. typical.

Aug 01, 05 - 04:05 pm Comment from: webbyswim

now i can get to it. and it is running on IIS. what a shame. what a shame.

Aug 01, 05 - 04:07 pm Comment from: macsRule

whoever wrote this must be one of the stupidest people in the industry

Aug 01, 05 - 04:07 pm Comment from: ron

Wot a larf!

Aug 01, 05 - 04:09 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

So we've heard.
Any real news out there?

Aug 01, 05 - 04:10 pm Comment from: Artisticulated

Ridiculous. Just a list of "They have this, but we have this too but ours is better"

what a waste.

Aug 01, 05 - 04:11 pm Comment from: i dont like douche bag's

this guys a douche bag!

Aug 01, 05 - 04:14 pm Comment from: webbyswim

yep... heave to agree. after finally reading the article, this person lacks any tech industry insight. there are numerous errors both on the mac and pc side. they did no research. looks like 3 articles plagarized into one and messed up the data.

what a boob.

Aug 01, 05 - 04:18 pm Comment from: TGO

Vista security is better than Tiger?

In Tiger, under "sharing", 'firewall", clicking on the "advanced" tab shows:

-Enable Stealth Mode-
"Ensures that any uninvited traffic receives no response -- not even an acknowledgment that your computer exits.

Stealth technology, baby!

Aug 01, 05 - 04:28 pm Comment from: Sidney The Snail

Such a lame article.

Aug 01, 05 - 04:33 pm Comment from: ron

Makes me want to s--t spiders.

Aug 01, 05 - 04:35 pm Comment from: M.X.N.T.4.1

One of the stupidest things with all these articles is that even if Vista is as good as the Microsoft hype and it does have all the things in it that are listed in this article and they are better than the Tiger equivalent - they are still comparing Vista to Tiger!

Tiger will be 18 months or so old by the time Vista is stillborn, it's like comparing Tiger to Panther, or (Microsoft's massive release gap withstanding) Vista to XP, it's stupid. They won't be competing products, they're different generations and even then any supposed differences are minimal!

Apple's Tiger beats Microsoft's XP now! Vista might just possibly beat Tiger then (at a real, real push if the wind is in the right direction and you squint). Does anyone think that Leopard won't beat Vista hands down?

Aug 01, 05 - 04:46 pm Comment from: David B. Williams

"Microsoft is also promising the ability to access applications and desktops over the Internet without a virtual private network."

How wonderful! Imagine all the fun this will cause...

Aug 01, 05 - 04:54 pm Comment from: RevNeal

There is some excellent "Talkback" following the pitiful article. Have a read, and add a remark! smile

MDN Magic Word: "There" ... as in "so there"!

Aug 01, 05 - 04:59 pm Comment from: Gregg Thurman

John Rizzo should be forced to preface his articles with a warning: "John Rizzo is a hack that knows nothing about technology. His columns are written for entertainment purposes only."

Aug 01, 05 - 05:04 pm Comment from: Amazing

Looks like he can edit the article after people read it.. The icon size comment has been changed in the last hour to read:

"The Vista icons and previews are scalable to different sizes and can scale up to 128 by 128 pixels."

What a tool!

Aug 01, 05 - 05:08 pm Comment from: John

He forgets that Microsoft claimed that XP was going to be more secure. Look what happened. What fantasy island is this guy living on to think Vista will be more secure than OSX of any version. If they do they will probably break compatability with everything else.

Aug 01, 05 - 05:16 pm Comment from: bob

"Certainly, Windows is a target of more malware than is Mac OS X, and security in Vista is more sophisticated than in Tiger."

So because Windows is targeted more it has to have more sophisticated security? How about OS X has more sophisticated security and thats why no visuses affect it! That guy is such a tool!

Aug 01, 05 - 05:31 pm Comment from: FistOfGod

Ooh. Bigger icons. I wet my pants.

And the Aero interface - what, it looks like it's made of delicious bubbly chocolate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_(chocolate)

No wait, Aero bars aren't available in the U.S. - maybe the interface will look like a toy airplane that will go around and around and around!

More secure than OS X? Right. Oh yes. Sure.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/29/wga_cracked/

Aug 01, 05 - 06:05 pm Comment from: hammer

One more feature of VISTA will be the replacement of the wizard with a take-off on the long featured Clippy character. Instead, the Windows help wizard will be an animated dancing sweaty Steve Ballmer. He will run around in circles inside this little box on your screen yelling "I, love, this, company yeahhhhhhh"

mw 'men' as in "It is not a world of men Machine. It's a world of clockwatchers and beureaucrats."

Aug 01, 05 - 06:11 pm Comment from: cider

"And the Aero interface - what, it looks like it's made of delicious bubbly chocolate?"

Hmm how appropriate... Vista is a load of BS, right down to the interface. Something's brown all right, and it ain't chocolate!

As for the main article, so what. A bozo writer comments about MS copying Apple stuff in the next (and long overdue) Windows version. Yaaawn. Twenty-plus years of this song & dance aren't getting any more exciting.

Anyway let MS copy the eye candy, the world knows their game. We'll see how MS matches Apple in areas that can't be copied (like security and user satisfaction).

Aug 01, 05 - 06:44 pm Comment from: Frank

Question for you guys in the know:
Seeing that Apple won't abandon PPC users like myself in the near future, would I be wrong in thinking that future OS', starting with Leopard, will be tweaked so as to run <better, faster, smoother--take your pick> on Macintels?

Aug 01, 05 - 07:24 pm Comment from: Tempus Fugit

Panther/Tiger: user proven; available today.

Vista: vaporware.

Nuff Said.

Aug 01, 05 - 08:20 pm Comment from: moiety5

They updated the article to remove the nonesense about Tiger's icon sizes.

Aug 01, 05 - 08:24 pm Comment from: FistOfGod

"...the Windows help wizard will be an animated dancing sweaty Steve Ballmer..."

Don't forget that users will be able to choose between the animated dancing sweaty Steve Ballmer, and another crowd-pleaser version that licks its own ears then screams "Give it up for me!!!"

http://www.macdailynews.com/gfx/article_gfx/050728_ballmer.jpg

Vista's top-secret weapon will be a Blue Screen Of Death that comes in five (count 'em) five new colours!

Aug 01, 05 - 09:38 pm Comment from: No

MDN, you are always correcting other people, so you should correct yourself. The following statement is false:

"Rizzo seems pretty ecstatic that Vista icons will have thumbnails of the actual document, but fails to mention that in Mac OS X's Column view, clicking on a document will automatically show its thumbnail view just as Vista is supposed to do in late 2006 (or use Get Info on a document)."

In my version of Mac OS X 10.4.2 Tiger, clicking "Get Info" on a Word document does not generate a thumbnail image of the document. It only shows the icon. I believe what Vista does is show an actual miniaturized version of the document instead of a generic icon. In other words, you see the document like it would be if it had been minimized to the Dock in OS X.

Aug 01, 05 - 11:35 pm Comment from: Max

Uh, 'No'...

In Finder:

View > Show View Options > All Windows > Show Icon Preview.

Or if you'd prefer a Contextual Menu - get QuickImage.

Aug 02, 05 - 04:26 am Comment from: flaps

i hope apple sue them for design copyright infringement , then again it looks like xp with a bit of crap stuck on it

really hopeless , they can't even copy apple properly

Aug 03, 05 - 02:04 am Comment from: Thorpedo

Oh flaps, I agree except perhaps to elaborate

"... then again it looks like xp with a bit of crap stuck on it"

I suppose that should read

"then again it looks like crap (i.e. xp) with a bit of crap stuck on it"

or more succinctly

"then again it looks crap"

Aug 03, 05 - 09:51 pm Comment from: No

Max:

I did what you said, but all my Word files still show up as generic icons. They do not show a preview of the actual document, as Vista does. OS X only has this capability for images.

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