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If Apple have said this, they've only said to to Walt Mossberg. Still the guy is on first name terms is Steve Jobs, so I guess he probably has some inside track here.

This is really important to the feature set, not sure why it was left out in the first place but its good to know that they have ability to provide major upgrades through software updates.

I would like to see shockwave included and more importantly full java and javascript support.

Mossberg wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. It's obvious from his reviews over the years that he has an inside track at Apple. He and David Pogue are tighter with Jobs than anyone else in the media.

I think that Apple is leveraging the iPhone success to undermine Flash. Neither Apple or Google want that company to become too powerful.

@Joe

Extremely Unlikely: Shockwave isn't even a universal binary.

Though I couldn't see it being overly useful anyway; flash, on the other hand…

As for to do list and all that........

Software upgrade! Its all in the SOFATWARE UPGRADE capability already built into it.

Patience......Human Children do not walk 5 minutes after they are born!, the earliest they can do that is after One year......(Someone correct me, you could earn yourself a life times supply of Camel's Milk)

Sofatware indeed! Something that fat people wear?.....I meant Software!

The average child achieves independent walking ability between nine and fifteen months old.

You can keep your "milk."

@camel milk, consider yourself corrected, many children walk before one year, both of mine did.

I have a hard time believing Flash will make its way to the iPhone. This is a perfect opportunity for Apple to put Flash in the same toilet Windows Media is now in. In both cases, Quicktime is a winner.

circumcision at birth hurt so bad, I couldn't walk for a year.

Why did Walt bother to write down all those other questions if he didn't bother to answer them?

MDN Magic Word = married, as in married to AT&T;'s crappy network.

Oh yeah:
They weren't supposed to clip your toes off. You got a bad deal.

Unfortunately, Flash is too widespread to be ignored. Let's just hope Microsoft's Sparkle withers on the vine.

@J

Flash will never go away. It does everything, including wash the counter sink... lol.

Flash may not go away, but if a million people purchased the phone without flash support it doesn't sound like Apple has any reason to hurry.

I hate flash.

Mossberg is simply wrong about the iPhone as a PDA (if you will). One can activate and cancel from AT&T;(prepaid appears to be recommended) and have a PDA, or get you iPhone PDA this way: http://nanocr.eu/2007/07/03/iphone-without-att/

i really dont understand the lack of a to do list. Its already in ical now. So along with the notes that dont sync, those are the reasons i still have to lug my palm PDA around.

I would imagine that the largest problem with getting Flash in the iPhone is the iPhone UI. They way that clicks and drags work on and iPhone is not like a normal mouse. Many Flash animations depend on click press-hold and drag which the iPhone's UI currently does not do. There are going to have to be major changes if Flash is to make it into the iPhone.

@ Red.

The current thought about notes is that it will sync when 10.5 comes out. 10.5 has a similar system wide version of notes built in.

The Newton had a great To Do list function. Please, Apple, bring this to the iPhone.

"Please, Apple, bring this to the iPhone."

There are four empty spaces on the bottom row of buttons.

Some wild guesses:
Games, Organizer (to-do), eBay and TV (Joost?)

Flash is an okay tool... if used sparingly.

In this case, IF is a big word. The problem is that some web designers like to show off and use it for everything. Pop-up, pop-down, flip flop clipitty plop! I don't care how much bandwidth you've got, that's when Flash moves beyond an enhancement becomes a curse. Sites like that are awful and best avoided.

If Apple & Google managed to kick Flash down a few notches and put it in it's place, the web would be all the better.

With Leopard on the horizon, who's to say that 'spaces' won't make it to the iPhone? You'll have a lot more than 4 empty spaces on the bottom row of buttons.

Does Flash work on any other smart phone browser?

This time Apple is correct — no flash.

eg: http://www.keywestford.com — advises that you need the latest version.

Even with the absolute latest version downloaded and installed — it still won't work.

That is the 'power' of flash.

"You'll have a lot more than 4 empty spaces on the bottom row of buttons."

Or more simply, just another page of buttons. The last space could hold a button that takes you to the next page of buttons. And so on.

Sort of like asking for three more wishes on your third wish.

A couple of other points that Apple needs to address:

1. No search function. This is especially important for calendar and contact data.

2. No ability to copy and paste.

Two fundamental functions that were overlooked.

@No Squirt For You,

I would imagine that if the number of icons grows beyond the allotted screen space, buttons would slip underneath the Dashboard-like grill (with a lovely gradient fade-to-black shadow) that houses the 4 primary functions (Phone, Email, Safari, iPod) and would scroll much like other lists on the iPhone.

That's just my guess.

Geez. Why does everyone suddenly complain about EDGE? Did nobody use the EDGE network before the iPhone?

justified: that's possible - but it seems more convenient to have them in your face. I imagined a next page button using a right arrow in the bottom right corner just like the arrow in the "Buy now" Apple Store banner.

@ FDT

As I have been using my iPhone I have been wondering HOW you would copy and paste. When you hold and move your finger on text (like I would think copy and paste should work) a magnifying glass for text placement shows up.

I'm kind of on the fence about adding Flash.

I'm aware it's "Widespread" but .. frankly MANY cases it's use is unwarranted, it creates ugly and obnoxious banner adds, it creates poor user interfaces, it creates bloated web pages.

I'm not sure I miss it all that much.

Aren't there new open standard web standards that are going to be able to do much of what Flash does?

Look at what Apple does with their website. There's animation on there and interactive elements and they do not use Flash at all, it's all open standards.

Getting rid of Flash would be good for the web because it would push everything over to open standards which I am all in favor of.

MDN "fear" as in Microsoft and Adobe "fear" Apple's coming dominance.

Red, you're right. Pressing and holding your finger over a word is how you set the text insertion point. It's a novel way to do it, but as you note, you cannot highlight and then copy or cut and then paste.

Hopefully the search feature and some minimal editing commands will be added in a forthcoming update. I also hope users will let Apple know about this so it becomes a priority for them.

Did anybody note this comment by Mossberg:

One twist: because a phone is a necessity, Apple is offering loaner iPhones for $29 while your phone’s battery is being replaced, or for the period of any other repair on the iPhone. You will have to switch the AT&T;SIM card from your own phone to the loaner, and then back again.

Why charge for a loaner?