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Will 10.5 allow ppc macs to run windows apps as well?

clyde,

No.

Who really cares about running Vista vaporware anyway? Let's get into the habit of calling it what it really is:

M$ Windows Vista = Mac OS X 10.1 alpha 1.

Why waste precious HDD space and functioning hair follicles on a virus?

Shouldn't Boot Camp last no longer than 6, 9, or 12 weeks?

Mossberg can go to hell

no - gotta have Intel inside (x86)

Will 10.5 allow ppc macs to run windows apps as well?

Most likely not as Microsoft already has a product in that space called Virtual PC.

I don't think we are going to see Microsoft's API's running under Mac OS X, not from Apple anyway, even though Apple could do it. It gives M$ a opportunity to mess with Apple and all those who come to depend upon Windows apps to run under Mac OS X.

Perhaps later Apple will, or some third party company will, because Microsoft will release Vista and be locked into the API's for some time.

We might be switching back and forth from full to alternalte virtualizations.

Can Apple run a fictional operating system? No. If Vista ever becomes real, Apple will probably be able to run it.

http://musobs.blogspot.com/

I seriously doubt that VPC for the Mac will be developed any longer. It's purpose has become obsolete. Slow emulator that won't run games and some programs or native speed in a partition?

If you want to run Windows apps without buying Windows, just put Linux in a Parallels Worsktation virtual machine and install Wine on it.

After you've had that experience, come back and let us know if you still think this is something Apple could/should do in OS X.

why does any OS X user give a Damn about using Windows.


We all know what an abortion is is so what's all the curiousity about?

I can understand Windows users being interested but OS X users?

Who cares if you use the occasional application that requires every once in a while! Do you enjoy drawing attention to yourselves with the association of windows? What a shame! If you drove a Lexus but had to use a ford occasionally at work would you be energized by that or whould you even notice - other than is sucks and "boy can't wait to drive my LS430?"

Windows doen not deserve the the slightest bit of acknowlgement or attention.

Ignore it and avoid it like the plague!

Move along people, there is nothing to see here!!!

G-ZUZ, I don't usually whine like this, but I wish you'd put in some line separators or something to make it clear that the musobs site you always advertise in your posts is just a sig.

After clicking on your link (five or six times in different posts) thinking it's a link to an article relevant to your post, it gets irritating to realize you aren't linking to anything relevant, just pimping your site.

Not trying to start a flame war, just constructive criticism.

I've a similar analogy before. What if you needed to haul a cord of firewood or several hundred feet of sod. Do you want to put it in the Lexus? Would it even fit? Do you go around ALWAYS saying I've got a Lexus, what the hell does anyone need a truck for?

You use Doze because that's the best tool available that does the job. OS X is great, but it can not do it all.

hefty enough? All MacTel boxes are way "heftier" than the majority of PC's out there...if they're not "hefty" enough then neither is your neighbor's Dell.

The professor said it all. Only thing is, nobody wants to answer the question if this is really is the beginning of the end of Mac OS and the only choice we Mac Intel suckers are left with is Big Blue... I mean, Big Yellow.

"M$ Windows Vista = Mac OS X 10.1 alpha 1."

Oh, so it's Mac OS X 10.0?

I am very smart person, lik you. Have Mirosoft MCP certificat which is best there is. We have told that Windows is best operating system, and so why do I come web site? To tel you to know it. Thank you for it.

Please visit web site.

If no OSX users care about Windows, why did the Steve bless Windows for his Macs?

No Windows users is going to buy a Mac to run Windows. They already have a computer that runs windows!!!

Leopard will knock spots off Vista!

"If no OSX users care about Windows, why did the Steve bless Windows for his Macs?"

Dude!!! it's to get them to taste the green grass and get out of the weed corral. Not because he sees any value in windows.

Are you saying Grass Hoppa' Jobs jimmied OS X because he sees the value of windows?

Think again. Think Different. It's to ween these weenies off of windows.

Is it true that Leopard is scheduled early 2007, as Mossberg states?

I have been a loyal Macintosh user since the days of the SE30, and I wonder how many folks on this site even remember the SE30. For a very brief time I was "forced" (job requirement) to use Windows 3.0 which I thought was my penance here in this earth.
After reading these comments since the introduction of BootCamp, I have yet to read about one incident where the person identifies the real reason why they "have" to run Windows on their MAC. My uneducated guess would be that BootCamp is just another toy for some to run on their MAC.
To each their own, I guess, but I have seen and experienced the Macintosh operating system since the days of System 6, and all I have seen are improvements. I remember doing a tabletop dance when Apple finally got rid of those bothersome "extensions."
Oh well, I just thought I would add my cooments to all the rest.
One more thing--if that "windows" program doesn't run, just remember how many "drivers" you'll have to hunt for just to get it to run.

I think most people writing about boot camp are missing the point.
Boot camp isn't a move towards every computer running any OS...
It is rather to put OS X in a position that breaks the MS deathgrip
on the world's computers by killing off Vista...

The most intelligent analysis i've read on the matter
really puts things into perspective

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060420.html

Think different...

I've got two friends who are in real estate... they have to use windows because there are no corresponding equivalent apps available for them on the mac.

I've been with Apple a long time as you have, my first was an IIc, and my first mac was a classic.

Both my friends are buying intel iMacs as we speak.

Why Vista on a Mac? For those hard-core gamers:

HALO 2.

bill,

Yeah I thought that Leopard was scheduled for Q3 of this year, or about the same time they'll be putting the Merom chipset in the MacBooks.

I'm sorry, but Mossburg is an idiot. Big deal that OS X will run Winblows crapware. I'm sure there are about a thousand better reasons to talk about OS X Leopard then something that involves M$! Winblows is crap, pure and simple. Its like a generic OS; a transparent shell with so many holes that makes it about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

Fsck off, M$ trolls.

Op-ed piece written on a beloved PB 1.5 12".

After installing 10.5 I will be installing no other OS. Don't need to, don't want to. Baby's been good to me, ain't gonna cheat on her.

I'll say it again, Windows on a Mac? Meh!

Who cares? Only a small group of geeks.

Another Windows on a Mac artical on MDN, what a shock.

Yawn...

Too bad about 10.5 not allowing windows apps on a ppc mac. There's a couple of windows programs that I'd like to use, and I HATE virtual PC. Virtual PC is like working on a 386...

I don't WANT to run a Windows program AT ALL. But I HAVE TO for our business, since Quickbooks is the standard and Intuit keeps the Mac version CRIPPLED by comparison.

I have a piece of garbage PC sharing desk space with a backup Mac right now, and I desperately want to get rid of the damn thing. This functionality in Leopard will allow us to do that. Finally.

So, that's MY reason "ishufflemyfeet" and "Think Different". The Quickbooks Mac version is woeful by comparison, and, ya know . . . I HAVE TO RUN MY BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!

This forthcoming feature of Leopard is NOT only for geeks.

@Chunky Monkey "I HAVE TO RUN MY BUSINESS!!!"
So do I, and I use MYOB.

If I could run Windows apps under OS X, I would be the happiest guy in Vermont. THen maybe I could convince the powers that be to get me a Mac notebook.

There are several programs which I rely on to be compatible with my job. One is Access. And I know you'll say Filemaker this and that, but if everybody else is running Access I ain't cutting that cheese. Number two is WordPerfect. OMG, I know there is a very old Previous generation Wordperfect running around out in webland, but I would be very suprised if there weren't any glitches sharing with the WordPerfect 9 world. Last, but not least is Outlook. What I wonder about is how well Entourage could substitute. Does it do calander and contacts as well? Are there some tricks it can't turn?

Anyhow, all those concerneds would be wiped away if I could run Windows apps simultaneously. My life may finally be able to communicate with itself. The Mac would be like that curvy line haolding the yin to the yang. I need em both.

Fuzzy Bo: " ... and I use MYOB."

That's great for you. But most accountants don't.

Our accountant is a former IRS agent, and he prefers Quickbooks. As do the majority of people needing an accounting solution. And since our guy is formerly from the "dark side" and that kind of information and those kinds of connections are invaluable, I'll stick with what he prefers.

Besides, we tried MYOB once and it too lacks some of the features and support of Quickbooks.

Don't get me wrong: If Intuit didn't completely suck ass they'd simply make the Mac version completely equivalent. But they do and they won't.

So until then, something like this feature appearing in LEopard would be ohhh soooo sweeeeet.

I wouldn't piss on Intuit if they where on fire.

Wha...? I thought Mossberg was one of the "blessed" ones, one of those journalists who "got" it? The very second he even dares to say "Windows" in the same breath as "Apple" without being negative, you turn on him? My, how fickle you some of you people are...

I own both and use both. I am in the IT field and have uses for both. I think both have great and not so great points. What i dont get is why people perfer one over the other. I am at an advantage to most of the people i work with because i can do both. Notebooks do not take up that much space.