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Mossberg: Switching from Windows to Mac - software not an expensive proposition
Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:54 AM EST

The Wall Street Journals' Walter S. Mossberg answers questions about computers. One question and answer in Mossberg's Q&A today offers solid advice and information for Windows to Mac switchers:

Q: I am considering switching to a Mac. However, I have hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars of software for my PC. Are the new G5 Macs capable of running PC software?

A: When you contemplate a switch to the Mac, you have to separate the concept of your data, or files, from the concept of the programs, or software, you currently use to display, edit or play that data on your Windows PC. The Macintosh, out of the box and unmodified, won't run your current Windows programs. But it will almost certainly handle all of your data using different software or programs designed for the Macintosh. And most of that Macintosh software is free.

For instance, if you have photos on your Windows PC in the common "JPG" format, which almost all digital cameras produce, you may be viewing them in the "My Pictures" folder in Windows, or by using a program like Adobe Photoshop Album. This folder and this program don't work on the Mac. But, if you copy those pictures to a new Mac, you can view and edit them in iPhoto, an excellent -- and free -- photo program that comes on every Mac, and which I regard as better than the Windows photo programs in its category.

The Mac doesn't run the Windows version of Microsoft Office. But all of your Office documents can be viewed and edited, and new ones created, if you buy the Mac version of Microsoft Office. Even if you don't, the Mac can read and edit Microsoft Word files out of the box. It can also open and create PDF files without downloading or purchasing any software from Adobe.

In fact, for all of the types of files commonly used by mainstream Windows users, the Mac is able to handle them through its own programs that are generally better than their Windows counterparts. And most of these programs, except for Microsoft Office for the Mac, are free on every new Mac.


Mossberg also covers running Windows programs on a Mac via Microsoft's (formerly Connectix's) Virtual PC in his full Q&A here.

Infotisements:
The new Mac Mini. Still starting at $499. Free shipping from The Apple Store.
Microsoft Office for Mac Student and Teacher Edition - $149.95
iWork. Imports and exports Microsoft Word and Microsoft PowerPoint. Just $79.

MacDailyNews Take: Apple's AppleWorks provides Microsoft Word and Excel compatibility and Apple's Keynote (part of iWork) imports and exports Microsoft PowerPoint presentations. Apple's Pages (also part of iWork) also imports and exports Microsoft Word documents. And Apple's Filemaker also imports Microsoft Excel files and Access data and instantly converts Microsoft Excel files to FileMaker databases.

Switching from Windows to Mac? Never forget to ask to "crossgrade" your software. That is, if you're switching to Mac, ask for the Mac version of your existing Windows software for the upgrade price before you just go out and buy a whole new version for full retail price.

People we meet, almost universally, they don't know a thing about Apple Macintosh. Most certainly don't know about the Mac's high level of compatibility with Windows. A few even still ask if Macs can send and receive email or "use the Internet," for Steve's sake! Here's hoping that Apple wakes up and takes advantage of Microsoft's malaise by actually getting the word out through advertising that the Mac is quite compatible with other platforms and is the better choice for the vast majority of personal computer users.

Related MacDailyNews articles:
Switching from Windows to Mac is easy and liberating - September 14, 2005
More would switch from Windows to Mac if Apple advertised more effectively - September 04, 2005
Windows to Mac switch like repeatedly getting whacked in the face with baseball bat of common sense - September 01, 2005
Students and teachers: going Mac could save you money on software - August 23, 2005
Mossberg offers resources for Windows users interested in switching to Apple Mac - August 18, 2005
Switching from Windows to Mac? Save money by asking to 'crossgrade' your software - April 13, 2005

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Sep 30, 05 - 12:25 pm Comment from: mac dood

".... The Mac doesn't run the Windows version of Microsoft Office. But all of your Office documents can be viewed and edited, and new ones created, if you buy the Mac version of Microsoft Office....

And, if youre cheap... you can always find Office on Limewire !!

LOL

Sep 30, 05 - 12:28 pm Comment from: Davey

The Apple Stores have done a really good job of promoting the Mac and OS X to the uninformed masses, but a TV commercial or two should wouldn't hurt either. Maybe once the Intel Macs are out we'll see some...

Sep 30, 05 - 12:29 pm Comment from: brando

Or adding on to Macdude, you can use OpenOffice as an office app.

Sep 30, 05 - 12:36 pm Comment from: mac dood

"...Or adding on to Macdude, you can use OpenOffice as an office app..."

uhhhh yeah ...there is always that ....

but MacDude is another guy !

LOL

Sep 30, 05 - 12:41 pm Comment from: izod

You can always open your MS Word documents in Simple Text

(I love that feature)

Sep 30, 05 - 12:44 pm Comment from: jackspratt

in theory, yes, Macs can open Word files without MS Word (standalone) or Office. however in practice the methods offered are insufficient for high-level academic or business documents, as often the formatting or tables are messed up, or the pictures don't open properly. as much as i'm not an M$ fan...Office for Mac reads documents created by its Windows counterpart almost flawlessly, and is well worth the money spent to anyone who does complex documents.

Sep 30, 05 - 12:44 pm Comment from: Spark

While AppleWorks is supplied on iMacs, it has never been supplied on any of the PowerMacs I've purchased over the years. It certainly did not come with my G5. Let me clarify... AppleWorks is not installed on PowerMacs. Maybe it is supplied on an Extras disk and I've never noticed because I already use MS Office, et al.

Sep 30, 05 - 12:45 pm Comment from: mac dood

"...You can always open your MS Word documents in Simple Text...."

But only if your Word docs are less than 32k ... and you're still running OS 9

Sep 30, 05 - 12:54 pm Comment from: MacDude

Yep, mac dood is another guy. I'm just his evil twin. raspberry

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Sep 30, 05 - 12:56 pm Comment from: MacAnimal

Everybody forget APPLEWORKS for only $79?

Reads/writes Word and Excel files, there is easy integrated converters as well.

Sep 30, 05 - 01:01 pm Comment from: tatle

Actually for running VPC and scrapping an old PC, you still own a copy of Windows that can be used with the $129.95 version of VPC (Apple store.)

Companies making the switch should tell Microsoft to convert their Windows Office licenses to Mac Office licenses, or loose their entire business to OpenOffice or some other alternatives.

Sep 30, 05 - 01:28 pm Comment from: notatotalsucker

There is also a free PowerPoint 98 viewer, but unfortunately, it's quite old and only works under Classic on OS X.

Instead of Virtual PC (VPC), another tool people might find helpful if they're keeping their PC around is the free Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) software Microsoft provides. This allows you to also run Windows from the Mac over a network. You still need a PC tucked away somewhere and it must be running a pro or server version of Windows.

It is a fairly serious setup for a home, since most don't have the server/pro editions of Windows software, but there are some advantages compared to VPC:
- PC software will run on the PC at full speed vs VPC's slower emulation (due to the way graphics works, this is still not a suitable solution for gaming (neither is VPC), but for other software where VPC is too slow, it might prove to be a viable alternative.)
- you'll save money on not buying VPC which usually includes another Windows license fee. You already have a Windows license on the other computer... why not use it??

Disadvantages:
- Complex initial setup.
- You'll need a network connection between the computers.
- Needs higher end versions of Windows to start with eg. NT Server, 2K Server or XP Pro, (i.e. NOT any of the XP Home editions or 98, 98SE.)
- Screen updates can be slow and its only thousands of colours, not millions.

ps I believe Microsoft Office for Mac costs a lot less if you buy it with a new Mac too vs retail afterwards. Not sure about cross-grades from PC versions, but you can always ask how much they are.

Sep 30, 05 - 01:37 pm Comment from: YankInOz

Try Pages (part of iWork) - it's better and cheaper than all the other word processing applications that work on a Mac and I write technical journals that I am able to add chart, photos, graphics, video and audio seamlessly & easily and end up with professinally created looking documents.

Sep 30, 05 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Jack A

Mac Dood -

""...You can always open your MS Word documents in Simple Text...."

But only if your Word docs are less than 32k ... and you're still running OS 9"

What the hell are you talking about? You can open .doc files that are a lot bigger than 32k with the OS X version of text edit.

Sep 30, 05 - 01:55 pm Comment from: dennis

"What the hell are you talking about? You can open .doc files that are a lot bigger than 32k with the OS X version of text edit."

...which is not SimpleText at all, is it?

Sep 30, 05 - 02:12 pm Comment from: JayBoner

Right on, Mac Dood. Personally I "acquired" my "free" copies of MS Office:Mac, iWork and Photoshop (and the reg keys to unlock them) via Acquisition. Felt just like Christmas.

Sep 30, 05 - 02:18 pm Comment from: Jeff

MDN, please stop mentioning AppleWorks. You would be much better off mentioning NeoOffice/J. Its far superior to AppleWorks and you are doing the potential switcher a favor. Pointing them to AppleWorks may in all likelihood scare them off.

Sep 30, 05 - 02:53 pm Comment from: beryllium

I just by accident discovered a neat feature of Safari. If you have more than one browser window open you can switch from one to the other by olding down the Command + ` Key (the one above the Tab key). This might be old news to some of you, but it was a very pleasant surprise for me.

Sep 30, 05 - 03:18 pm Comment from: radiomoscow

pages opens word files better then word
keynote - powerpoint
excel - ????????????
entourage - mail
messenger - ichatav

is there a free excel like program for mac?

Sep 30, 05 - 03:29 pm Comment from: MacDailyNews Webmaster

SimpleText for Mac OS X exists and has for some time.

On Mac OS X Tiger's install DVD, install XCode Tools and navigate to Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/

Double-click SimpleText.xcode to launch Xcode, click "Build," wait a moment while it does its thing, and in Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/build/ you will find the 176KB SimpleText.app (version 1.6) native for Mac OS X.

Drag it to your Applications folder like any other application. Classic not required.

Works like a charm, we use it everyday.

Sep 30, 05 - 03:33 pm Comment from: Matrix1

beryllium,
Thank you for the tip.
I didn't know about this either.

Sep 30, 05 - 03:37 pm Comment from: iMatt

I think some folks are confusing Simple Text (OS9) w/ Text Edit (OSX). Not that it matters very much, but I thought I'd point that out to douse some of the little flames that seem to be flaring up.

Sep 30, 05 - 03:40 pm Comment from: AP

I CAN'T BELIEVE nobody has mentioned the best Office replacement yet: Check this out for $50:

http://www.thinkfree.com/products/index.jsp

Opens, edits & saves Word, Excel, Powerpoint docs no problem!

Sep 30, 05 - 03:50 pm Comment from: whatever

Beryllium,

You can do that in any program to switch between that programs open windows.

Sep 30, 05 - 04:13 pm Comment from: Mac? Maybe, Maybe Not

So I paid, 1500 bucks two years ago for a PC with a 19 inch monitor and a decent printer.
I bought PhotoShop for $200
I bought Illustrator for $200
I bought Office for $300
I bought Go live for $99
I havent ever needed Antispyware and or virus protection becasue I use a firewall and I patch my system regularly, never had a virus or any real problems with the machine.

So now if I want a Mac with the same power and that will cost me around 1200 bucks for the machine, plus CS2 for $1199.00 and Office for $300

So my question is, Why would I spend almost twice as much for the same apps and hardware...No real value there in my mind..

Sep 30, 05 - 04:14 pm Comment from: I like AppleWorks

It's simple, it's Word compatible, and it's there--you don't have to download it. And it's loaded with features, from where I'm standing. Not everyone needs to format an encyclopedia with their word processor.

Anything beyond what AppleWorks can do is beyond what MOST people NEED to do.

Sep 30, 05 - 04:23 pm Comment from: MacDailyNews Webmaster

Mac? Maybe, Maybe Not:

Lack of viruses is hardly the Mac platform's only advantage over Windows.

Don't pay for full versions, if you don't need to do so. See our article: Switching from Windows to Mac? Save money by asking to 'crossgrade' your software

An Apple Mac minihttp://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=VeZI/RsU2UI&bids=77305.10001231&type=3&subid=0 with Mac OS X Tiger, iLife and much more costs US$499, not "1200 bucks." Free shipping, too.

Do it. You can thank us later.

For your convenience, we've grouped together all of the movies available from Apple here with the direct links to the various Tiger-related demo movies:

Automator
Dashboard
Exposé
Fast User Switching
iChat AV 3
.Mac Sync
Mail 2
Parental Controls
QuickTime 7 with H.264
Safari RSS
Spotlight
VoiceOver

Apple's online "Mac 101" section of the Apple Support section of Apple.com is a great place to start if you're new to Macintosh or thinking of switching: http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/

Sep 30, 05 - 04:48 pm Comment from: Mac? Maybe, Maybe Not:

I think a Mini is way too underpowered. Im running a Athlon XP 2800 + with 2 GB ram.

Sep 30, 05 - 05:39 pm Comment from: Luke

Those programs are stock, not free. iLife is $79 to buy new.

Sep 30, 05 - 07:37 pm Comment from: Buffy

Mac? Maybe, Maybe Not:

So you bought an upgrade copy of the Adobe apps 2 years ago for you PC and are comparing that purchasing a new CS2 suite for your mac? Huh?Since Photoshop is $600 by itself. If youve been to this sight at all you would have heard op "cross-grading" which is upgrading to a Mac copy from a Windows copy, will cost you no more than just a regular upgrade.

Plus you paid $1500 on a PC and are complaining about paying $1200 for a Mac? Interesting. Does your PC already have NO resale value?

As for Office, try OpenOffice or the iWork suite from Apple for $80, then all that you may need is Excel (I personally never use it.)

So by getting a Mac, youll spend $200 less than you did 2 years ago (total) and be able to sell your PC for whatever you can get. Sounds like a bargain. And you can still use your Printer I bet.

Sep 30, 05 - 07:39 pm Comment from: do what companies normally do

SOP many big companies: Delete XP and install the standard win2k w/ office ultra old. Everything works like it did years ago. Finally, when there is a big release AND there's a major benefit to updating software buy new versions of your apps (skip 5 generations). To make your money back in the Mac upgrade matrix you really have to skip 1 or probably an average of 1.5 updates depending on what you have. So, if you have CS1 PC you either try to crossgrade or buy CS3 when it comes out. You then have NEW current software at the same price and in the meantime you haven't had issues w/ your old install and the hardware you buy is much better. If you're running old software now then you're not losing much switching if you want quality software. If you don't want quality then why are you paying for it? Buy a consumer mac and get almost all of it for free.

Sep 30, 05 - 10:34 pm Comment from: Larry

Everything Walter says is true, but doesn't quite cover the whole picture.

I run Adobe Creative Suite CS2 Premium and Macromedia Studio 8 on my PC. I bought a Powerbook a year ago and, guess what? - neither Adobe or Macromedia will let me buy an upgrade version for the Mac - I need to buy a full version of each suite for the Mac! That's over $2,000.

Not at all cool, in my opinion. And I don't really understand why they do this, since both companies allow you to install a copy of their software on 2 platforms - generally a desktop and a laptop.

Oct 02, 05 - 12:16 pm Comment from: NoMacForYou

"Lack of viruses is hardly the Mac platform's only advantage over Windows." - MDN Admin

Hmm..So whats this site for? Tea Parties? Every Article and MDN Take is directed at Windows Viruses and how "superior the "MAC" is because of its lack thereof...

Hmm..MDN Admin is smoking dope in my mind.

Oct 02, 05 - 12:18 pm Comment from: NoMacForYou

And what advantage is there paying twic e as much for the same thing (less those pesky viral diseases)?

There isnt a point.

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