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Music’s online holdouts: The Beatles, Led Zepplin, AC/DC, Garth Brooks, and more
Friday, February 16, 2007 - 01:19 PM EST

"When will digital music consumers finally be able to meet the Beatles? Sooner than later it seems: Anticipation is building that the group's storied recordings will be available for (legal) digital download, now that Apple Corps, which oversees the catalog, has settled litigation over its name with Steve Jobs' Apple," Louis Hau reports for Forbes.

Hau reports, "But while the Beatles have been the most prominent digital holdouts, they aren't the only ones. Even though the vast majority of well-known recording artists now sell their music online, you still can't buy a digital copy of AC/DC's 'You Shook Me All Night Long' or 'Back In Black.'"

"In fact, virtually none of the Australian hard-rock veterans' music is available as a legal download anywhere on the Web. Ditto for Led Zeppelin. And the same is true, except for the occasional tribute album contribution, for Garth Brooks," Hau reports.

Hau reports, "The desire among some artists to retain control over the use of their music, continued ambivalence about new technologies and legal challenges in securing the necessary rights continue to keep some prominent song catalogs from being widely available for downloading. The result is a crazy quilt of restrictions that can frustrate their fans and their record labels."

Full article with mention of John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Radiohead, and more here.

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Feb 16, 07 - 01:28 pm Comment from: Jimbo von Winskinheimer

"Widely available for downloading" and "Widely downloaded" are two different things. Most of the bands mentioned are either long past their prime, or never had a prime...

My favorite was the assholes in Metallica, who avoided it for a long time. They didn't want you to download one single song because "The albums were written as an entire piece and that's how they were meant to be played." Uh yeah. It's not like they were Picasso or Beethoven. They were/are a shmuck metal band worried more about money than art. Were they worried about their albums being played in their entirety, they would never have let the singles be played on the radio, right?

It's amazing. Sometimes the world of online music seems so old, yet sometimes it still seems so young. Not fully embraced.

Feb 16, 07 - 01:33 pm Comment from: Eric24601

who are these people? are they supposed to be important?

Feb 16, 07 - 01:38 pm Comment from: norm e

Hey, all I got to say is:

Rip, mix, burn.

I love my ITunes. So you hold outs, If I really want the whole CD, fine. If I only want a song or two, I will pass on you till I can get it my way.

grin

N.

Feb 16, 07 - 01:39 pm Comment from: gman

as far as I'm concerned all those bands, have been available to dowload for years..

Bittorrent anyone?

hehe

Feb 16, 07 - 01:45 pm Comment from: albert

@ Jimbo... you obviously know NOTHING about music. John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Radiohead, AC/DC, Led Zepplin, "past or never had a a prime? Yeah, riiiiightttt.

Feb 16, 07 - 01:49 pm Comment from: Geo

"... Even though the vast majority of well-known recording artists now sell their music online, you still can't buy a digital copy of AC/DC's 'You Shook Me All Night Long' or 'Back In Black..."

Why do these writers make this same mistake over and over again? Of course you can buy digital copies of all these songs -- you just can't purchase them online. What do these people think a CD is?

Feb 16, 07 - 02:01 pm Comment from: maczealot

It's clear that greed and an intense desire to control distribution in the music industry extends beyond the corporate offices. Many artists are realistic enough to know that current DRM technolgy is a sham and they will not sell downloads without honest customers paying an insurance premium because a few thieve will steal their music. Still, it's the artist’s choice not to offer his or her own music for digital download. These artists also realize that most honest consumers won’t be willing to pay the exorbitant fees for the insurance and that’s the main reason you won’t find their music for sale online.

Feb 16, 07 - 02:02 pm Comment from: simple Math

"The albums were written as an entire piece and that's how they were meant to be played."

In reality, Metallica had/has one of the best royalty deals in the music business. This means that if folks were able to buy just the songs they liked, they would be potentially losing a ton of money.

Feb 16, 07 - 02:08 pm Comment from: ipod G8TR

WHO CARES!

Buy the CDs and rip them yourself. Most of these groups aren't making new music anyways. If you don't already own any of their CDs, you're probably not a fan and never will be. For casual fans, pick up a greatest hits CD. End of discussion!

Feb 16, 07 - 02:13 pm Comment from: typhoon

Who's Garth Brooks? Oh yeah, the guy that wanted to make the sale of used CD's illegal.

Feb 16, 07 - 02:28 pm Comment from: Joey

I hope that there will be only one holdout for all to make fun of - you know, for old times sake (and to show our kids about a modern times dinasaur).

Feb 16, 07 - 02:35 pm Comment from: Buster

ipod G8TR is right. Moreover, by holding out, people will probably download someone's ripped album for free. Thus these musicians still lose control of their musinc AND they miss out on all that extra revenue for not going online.

Stupid stupid stupid. It is clear they are rock stars, not brain surgeons.

I also echo....WHO CARES!

Feb 16, 07 - 02:38 pm Comment from: tekriter

"Most of the bands mentioned are either long past their prime, or never had a prime..."

I assume you had your fingers crossed when you typed this.

If these bands "never had a prime", there wouldn't be this pent-up demand, now, would there?

Feb 16, 07 - 03:06 pm Comment from: Radiohead coming round.

Of the artists listed, Radiohead may be coming round soon. Their reasoning for witholding from the digital revolution so far is that they are an albums band and their music is not meant to be listened to on a song per song basis but rather as a whole album... I believe that there is some logic to this type of thinking, FOR SOME ARTISTS... Not all.

But Radiohead front man Thom Yorke released his first solo album last year on iTunes and it was interesting to see that it topped the iTunes Album list for over a week, yet none of his songs even made the iTunes singles chart.. It just goes to show that "real" artists have fans that still prefer albums over singles.. And albums bands for the most part should not worry so much about their art being disected and listened to out of context.

Feb 16, 07 - 03:40 pm Comment from: BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

At least Metallica made the move -- that's more than you can say for the other folks mentioned. I think sooner (rather than later) music fans will regard artists whose music isn't widely available online as being unimportant. I'll bet a lot of them already do. So for more and more people, "Who are/were the Rolling Stones" is not a joke question.

Feb 16, 07 - 04:00 pm Comment from: Randy Deems

@ipod G8TR - I agree.

You either got the oldies or you don´t. I picked a double-CD of Led Zeppellin´s remastered greatest hits the other day. Wonderful!

Feb 16, 07 - 04:14 pm Comment from: schmluss

Good artists will sell entire albums. Artists that are not so good will sell their one hit wonders.

Feb 16, 07 - 05:07 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Anyone who is waiting for Zep to come out online before buying anything of theirs is wasting their life.
Stop what you are doing now and go get Physical Graffiti.
Then you can choose-
Led ll-the guitar album
Led lll-the acoustic album
Led lV-the vocal album
Presence-the bad ass drum album

Then start on Houses, Self Titiled, Live, Coda, and the compilations.

There WILL be a test!

Feb 16, 07 - 06:15 pm Comment from: LorD 1776

I wish Garth Brooks wasn't available in any freakin' form.

Feb 16, 07 - 06:26 pm Comment from: Jimbo von Winskinheimer

Albert, I know nothing about music? Yes, Led Zeppelin is past it's prime. AC/DC - way past their prime. John Lennon is freakin' dead, so I'm sure he's past his prime. Paul still writes some wonderful stuff, but he's not in his prime. If you love the oldies (and I do) that's fine, but don't delude yourself into thinking that these guys are in their prime. The aforementioned were in their primes well over 20 years ago, my friend.

Feb 16, 07 - 11:25 pm Comment from: marcos

So, what that means is dead, former or dying artists who have fallen off the radar screen want to stay off

Feb 17, 07 - 05:30 am Comment from: Ledheadjeak

Led Zeppelin is past there prime
are you kidding me
the world is waiting for the Zeppelin reunion tour and half of you dumbass including the title of this story spelled there name wrong
learn to type it before u talk about it
way to be true fans

Feb 17, 07 - 10:47 am Comment from: TowerTone

"learn to type it before u talk about it"

That pretty much sums you up...

MW:respect

Feb 17, 07 - 10:50 am Comment from: TowerTone

"Led Zeppelin is past there prime" their?

Sorry, I missed that one.

Good music is always in its prime. Fashion slaves are never in theirs'....

Feb 17, 07 - 01:28 pm Comment from: Does anybody Care

Garth Brooks is the king of greed-as some may recall, in the '90s he tried to put a stop to the selling of used cds because he didn't recieve royalties from it (does anybody think his music is worth paying for more than once if at all?), it's not surprising that he's MIA. Honestly: does anyone care? I have yet to hear the mighty din of a clamoring to get him online. Honestly, this has all been played out before with different technology and circumstances, and people are still making and selling music. It's the labels that should be shaking in their boots. They will be irrelavent to a larger and larger degree as time goes by and I say good riddance.

Feb 17, 07 - 01:37 pm Comment from: Zeppelin

have always sucked: the cheesy '70s vocals, the retarded 'mystical' lyrics, the Jim Morrisonesque live fast 'til you die kind of crap. They weren't ever in their prime for a lot of people, though I give them credit for their level of musicianship (the smartest thing would have been to kick Robert Plant out of the band, definitely the weak link). They were like a watered down MC5. The '70s were a zit on the ass of good music 'til punk became really widespread. God bless The Ramones.

Feb 18, 07 - 04:56 pm Comment from: ledheadjeak

u stupid punk rocker
the ramones suck
thank god there dead
Led Zeppelin is the greatest band of all time (FACT)
and for all of those of you who choose to say different
Read Hammer of the Gods
and learn what rock n roll music is
the real feeling
funny they dominated america for 11 years and would still be dominating today if they werent struck with such bad luck

Feb 18, 07 - 11:38 pm Comment from: Dave

Excuse me Led Zepplin-didn't I just hear one of your songs on a friggin cadillac commercial? I grew up when these bands were all touting corporate greed and don't sell out--but boy do I hear a lot of familiar songs on commercials-COMMERCIALS you money grubbing bastards--who sold out now huh?? they can have their friggin music take it to the grave with you, I have no more use for any of them

Mar 13, 08 - 04:45 pm Comment from: timberspine

well, led zep is finally available digitally...

as far as I'm concerned, the beatles and ac/dc are still the major holdouts ... c'mon guys don't let down yer fans!

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